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	*The opportunities for showing love for God through the home, neighborhood, mission field, community, and family are never–ending. Some of us are inclined to terminate our love processes in the family when a member disappoints, rebels, or becomes lost. Sometimes when family members least deserve love, they need it most. Love is not appropriately expressed in threats, accusations, expressions of disappointment, or retaliation. Real love takes time, patience, help, and continuing performances. -- {{Ensign\|author=Marvin J. Ashton\|url=http://www.lds.org/general-conference/1975/10/love-takes-time\|article=Love Takes Time\|date=November 1975\|pages=108}}		*The opportunities for showing love for God through the home, neighborhood, mission field, community, and family are never–ending. Some of us are inclined to terminate our love processes in the family when a member disappoints, rebels, or becomes lost. Sometimes when family members least deserve love, they need it most. Love is not appropriately expressed in threats, accusations, expressions of disappointment, or retaliation. Real love takes time, patience, help, and continuing performances.—{{Ensign\|author=Marvin J. Ashton\|url=http://www.lds.org/general-conference/1975/10/love-takes-time\|article=Love Takes Time\|date=November 1975\|pages=108}}

	==Spencer W. Kimball==		==Spencer W. Kimball==
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	==Neal A. Maxwell==		==Neal A. Maxwell==

	* One of faith's most trying experiences occurs when, after having given our loving help, we watch with feelings of helplessness the struggles of those we love. If their circumstance or suffering goes unrelieved, did we quit importuning the Lord too soon? If we had importuned a little longer, would things be different? How do we balance sincere importuning with submissively accepting what God has allotted to us? Only the Holy Ghost can give us such discernment and assurance. What a splendid gift is thus given to us! -- {{Book:Maxwell:Lord Increase Our Faith\|pages=37}}		* One of faith's most trying experiences occurs when, after having given our loving help, we watch with feelings of helplessness the struggles of those we love. If their circumstance or suffering goes unrelieved, did we quit importuning the Lord too soon? If we had importuned a little longer, would things be different? How do we balance sincere importuning with submissively accepting what God has allotted to us? Only the Holy Ghost can give us such discernment and assurance. What a splendid gift is thus given to us!—{{Book:Maxwell:Lord Increase Our Faith\|pages=37}}

	*The ability to create a climate around us in which people, as in the case of the man who approached Jesus, feel free enough to say the equivalent of "Lord, help Thou my unbelief," is a critical skill. If we can deal with doubt effectively in its nascent stages, we can assist people by a warmth and love which frees them to share the worries that they may have, and increase the probability of dissolving their doubt. But, if we over–react to dissent or to doubt, we are apt, rather than inculcating confidence in those we serve, to exhibit what, in the eyes of the rebel, may seem to be a flaw in our inner confidence in what we say.		*The ability to create a climate around us in which people, as in the case of the man who approached Jesus, feel free enough to say the equivalent of "Lord, help Thou my unbelief," is a critical skill. If we can deal with doubt effectively in its nascent stages, we can assist people by a warmth and love which frees them to share the worries that they may have, and increase the probability of dissolving their doubt. But, if we over–react to dissent or to doubt, we are apt, rather than inculcating confidence in those we serve, to exhibit what, in the eyes of the rebel, may seem to be a flaw in our inner confidence in what we say.

	:We need to relax to be effective in the process of helping people who are building testimonies. Over–reacting and pressing the panic button when doubt first makes its appearance can render us ineffective. This is one of the reasons why parents are often in a temporarily poorer tactical position to deal effectively with a rebellious son or daughter—the anxiety is too real to relax. In these circumstances, bishops, teachers, and friends can be helpful—not because they are clinically detached, for their love and concern should be honestly communicated—but rather because third parties sometimes can listen a little longer without reacting, can prescribe with a clear–headed assessment, and most of all, can be a fresh voice which conveys care and concern, a voice which has risen above similar challenges. -- {{Book:Maxwell:A More Excellent Way\|pages=62}}		:We need to relax to be effective in the process of helping people who are building testimonies. Over–reacting and pressing the panic button when doubt first makes its appearance can render us ineffective. This is one of the reasons why parents are often in a temporarily poorer tactical position to deal effectively with a rebellious son or daughter—the anxiety is too real to relax. In these circumstances, bishops, teachers, and friends can be helpful—not because they are clinically detached, for their love and concern should be honestly communicated—but rather because third parties sometimes can listen a little longer without reacting, can prescribe with a clear–headed assessment, and most of all, can be a fresh voice which conveys care and concern, a voice which has risen above similar challenges.—{{Book:Maxwell:A More Excellent Way\|pages=62}}

	==Dallin H. Oaks==		==Dallin H. Oaks==
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	*Don't be too anxious to call yourself a failure or to judge others as failures. When all accounts are settled, you will find that no effort to teach righteousness is ever completely lost. Nothing you do in the way of trying to convey the gospel of Jesus Christ is ever futile. -- {{Book:Packer:Teach Ye Diligently\|pages=339}}		*Don't be too anxious to call yourself a failure or to judge others as failures. When all accounts are settled, you will find that no effort to teach righteousness is ever completely lost. Nothing you do in the way of trying to convey the gospel of Jesus Christ is ever futile.—{{Book:Packer:Teach Ye Diligently\|pages=339}}

	* The story is told that someone stopped Elder J. Golden Kimball on the street on one occasion. There had been a little difficulty in Elder Kimball's family that had become publicly known, and whoever it was who stopped him, no doubt with a mind to injure, said, "Brother Kimball, I understand you're having some problems with one of your children." His answer was, "Yes, and the Lord is having some problems with some of his, too." -- {{Book:Packer:Teach Ye Diligently\|pages=337}}		* The story is told that someone stopped Elder J. Golden Kimball on the street on one occasion. There had been a little difficulty in Elder Kimball's family that had become publicly known, and whoever it was who stopped him, no doubt with a mind to injure, said, "Brother Kimball, I understand you're having some problems with one of your children." His answer was, "Yes, and the Lord is having some problems with some of his, too."—{{Book:Packer:Teach Ye Diligently\|pages=337}}

	* The measure of our success as parents … will not rest solely on how our children turn out. That judgment would be just only if we could raise our families in a perfectly moral environment, and that now is not possible.		* The measure of our success as parents … will not rest solely on how our children turn out. That judgment would be just only if we could raise our families in a perfectly moral environment, and that now is not possible.

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	* Do I think that my children will be damned? No, I do not, for I am going to fight the devil until I save them all; I have got my sword ready, and it is a two-edged one. I have not a fear about that, for I would almost be ashamed of my body if it would beget a child that would not abide the law of God, though I may have some unruly children. {{JDwiki\|vol=4\|pages=56\|author=Brigham Young\|url=http://en.fairmormon.org/Journal_of_Discourses/4/10#56}}		* Do I think that my children will be damned? No, I do not, for I am going to fight the devil until I save them all; I have got my sword ready, and it is a two-edged one. I have not a fear about that, for I would almost be ashamed of my body if it would beget a child that would not abide the law of God, though I may have some unruly children. {{JDwiki\|vol=4\|pages=56\|author=Brigham Young\|url=http://en.fairmormon.org/Journal_of_Discourses/4/10#56}}
	* I could say something encouraging to parents, if they would heed. Let the father and mother, who are members of this Church and Kingdom, take a righteous course, and strive with all their might never to do a wrong, but to do good all their lives; if they have one child or one hundred children, if they conduct themselves towards them as they should, binding them to the Lord by their faith and prayers, I care not where those children go, they are bound up to their parents by an everlasting tie, and no power of earth or hell can separate them from their parents in eternity; they will return again to the fountain from whence they sprang. - {{JDwiki\|author=Brigham Young\|vol=11\|pages=215\|url=http://en.fairmormon.org/Journal_of_Discourses/11/33#215}}		* I could say something encouraging to parents, if they would heed. Let the father and mother, who are members of this Church and Kingdom, take a righteous course, and strive with all their might never to do a wrong, but to do good all their lives; if they have one child or one hundred children, if they conduct themselves towards them as they should, binding them to the Lord by their faith and prayers, I care not where those children go, they are bound up to their parents by an everlasting tie, and no power of earth or hell can separate them from their parents in eternity; they will return again to the fountain from whence they sprang. - {{JDwiki\|author=Brigham Young\|vol=11\|pages=215\|url=http://en.fairmormon.org/Journal_of_Discourses/11/33#215}}

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