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	Non-LDS Christian Stephen H. Webb wrote:<ref name="webbID">"Webb is Professor of Philosophy and Religion at Wabash College in Crawfordsville, Indiana. He is a graduate of Wabash College and earned his PhD at the University of Chicago before returning to his alma mater to teach. Born in 1961 he grew up at Englewood Christian Church, an evangelical church. He joined the Disciples of Christ during He was briefly a Lutheran, and on Easter Sunday, 2007, he officially came into full communion with the Roman Catholic Church."</ref>		Non-LDS Christian Stephen H. Webb wrote:<ref name="webbID">"Webb is Professor of Philosophy and Religion at Wabash College in Crawfordsville, Indiana. He is a graduate of Wabash College and earned his PhD at the University of Chicago before returning to his alma mater to teach. Born in 1961 he grew up at Englewood Christian Church, an evangelical church. He joined the Disciples of Christ during He was briefly a Lutheran, and on Easter Sunday, 2007, he officially came into full communion with the Roman Catholic Church."</ref>
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	By now it should be clear how narrow-minded the charge is that Mormonism is a modern version of Arianism....For me, Mormonism raises the hypothetical question of what would have happened if the best theological minds had dedicated themselves to explicating all of the implications of the heavenly flesh position....we cannot simply turn back the clock to try to find a place and time where we can locate Mormonism in order to make it look familiar. Comparing Joseph Smith to Arius, who denied the Son’s equality with the Father, or, better, Eutyches, an early defender of Heavenly Flesh Christology, is not an unproductive thought experiment, but it misses the point that Mormonism demands a rethinking of classical theism from the ground up and thus a retelling of the Christian story from the Gospels forward—and the ground upon which it erects its speculations is as earthy as it can be. <ref name="webbBook">{{~~BYUS\|author=Stephen H.~~ Webb~~\|article=[http~~:~~//byustudies.byu.edu/PDFLibrary/50.3WebbGodbodied-a31ea084-327e-467b-bedc-4fa6c6f7d0c4.pdf~~ Godbodied~~: The Matter of the Latter-day Saints] (reprint from his book ''Jesus Christ, Eternal God: Heavenly Flesh and the Metaphysics of Matter'' (Oxford University Press, 2012)\|vol=50\|num=3\|date=2011~~}}</ref>{{Rp\|89}}</blockquote></onlyinclude>		By now it should be clear how narrow-minded the charge is that Mormonism is a modern version of Arianism....For me, Mormonism raises the hypothetical question of what would have happened if the best theological minds had dedicated themselves to explicating all of the implications of the heavenly flesh position....we cannot simply turn back the clock to try to find a place and time where we can locate Mormonism in order to make it look familiar. Comparing Joseph Smith to Arius, who denied the Son’s equality with the Father, or, better, Eutyches, an early defender of Heavenly Flesh Christology, is not an unproductive thought experiment, but it misses the point that Mormonism demands a rethinking of classical theism from the ground up and thus a retelling of the Christian story from the Gospels forward—and the ground upon which it erects its speculations is as earthy as it can be. <ref name="webbBook">{{Periodical:Webb:Godbodied}}</ref>{{Rp\|89}}</blockquote></onlyinclude>

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By now it should be clear how narrow-minded the charge is that Mormonism is a modern version of Arianism....For me, Mormonism raises the hypothetical question of what would have happened if the best theological minds had dedicated themselves to explicating all of the implications of the heavenly flesh position....we cannot simply turn back the clock to try to find a place and time where we can locate Mormonism in order to make it look familiar. Comparing Joseph Smith to Arius, who denied the Son’s equality with the Father, or, better, Eutyches, an early defender of Heavenly Flesh Christology, is not an unproductive thought experiment, but it misses the point that Mormonism demands a rethinking of classical theism from the ground up and thus a retelling of the Christian story from the Gospels forward—and the ground upon which it erects its speculations is as earthy as it can be. <ref name="webbBook">{{BYUS|author=Stephen H. Webb|article=[http://byustudies.byu.edu/PDFLibrary/50.3WebbGodbodied-a31ea084-327e-467b-bedc-4fa6c6f7d0c4.pdf Godbodied: The Matter of the Latter-day Saints] (reprint from his book ''Jesus Christ, Eternal God: Heavenly Flesh and the Metaphysics of Matter'' (Oxford University Press, 2012)|vol=50|num=3|date=2011}}</ref>{{Rp|89}}</blockquote></onlyinclude>

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[[Category:History/Apostasy|Apostasy]]
[[Category:History/Apostasy/Creeds|Creeds]]
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