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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*{{WikipediaContradiction}} This section contradicts a footnote in '''How the vision story has been presented'''. Oliver's first installment refers to "Elder Lane." The reference to "Elder Lane" is not included in this section, yet, one notes that buried in one of the wiki author's earlier (positive) footnotes is the following: "According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820..." <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This clearly ties Oliver's first installment to the year 1820.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*{{WikipediaContradiction}} This section contradicts a footnote in '''How the vision story has been presented'''. Oliver's first installment refers to "Elder Lane." The reference to "Elder Lane" is not included in this section, yet, one notes that buried in one of the wiki author's earlier (positive) footnotes is the following: "According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820..."</div></td></tr>
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</table>RogerNicholsonhttps://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/vastauksia/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:RogerNicholson/Sandbox5/How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented&diff=40904&oldid=prevRogerNicholson: /* How the vision story has been presented */ mod2009-04-11T03:10:38Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How the vision story has been presented: </span> mod</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820. "In the pursuit of his ministerial duties Rev. Lane was in the geographical proximity of Joseph Smith on a number of occasions between the years 1819-1825. The nature degree or indeed the actuality of their acquaintanceship during this interval poses a number of interesting possibilities... In July 1820 Lane would have had to pass through the greater Palmyra-Manchester vicinity..unless he went by an extremely circuitous route. Present records do not specify Lane's itinerary or exact route... but they do for Lane's friend, Rev. George Peck... [Peck's] conference route took him north to Ithaca, then on to a camp meeting in the Holland Purchase, subsequently passing along the Ridge Road to Rochester... As Rev. Peck, [Lane] may even have stopped at a camp meeting somewhere along the way. A preacher of his standing would always be a welcome guest." [https://byustudies.byu.edu/shop/PDFSRC/9.3Porter.pdf] Smith never mentions the name of the minister.</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820. "In the pursuit of his ministerial duties Rev. Lane was in the geographical proximity of Joseph Smith on a number of occasions between the years 1819-1825. The nature degree or indeed the actuality of their acquaintanceship during this interval poses a number of interesting possibilities... In July 1820 Lane would have had to pass through the greater Palmyra-Manchester vicinity..unless he went by an extremely circuitous route. Present records do not specify Lane's itinerary or exact route... but they do for Lane's friend, Rev. George Peck... [Peck's] conference route took him north to Ithaca, then on to a camp meeting in the Holland Purchase, subsequently passing along the Ridge Road to Rochester... As Rev. Peck, [Lane] may even have stopped at a camp meeting somewhere along the way. A preacher of his standing would always be a welcome guest." [https://byustudies.byu.edu/shop/PDFSRC/9.3Porter.pdf] Smith never mentions the name of the minister.</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Although Joseph does not mention the name in his 1832 account, Oliver Cowdery's first installment of Joseph's history in 1834 ''does'' mention that name of the minister<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, and </del>Oliver obtained that information from Joseph:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Although Joseph does not mention the name in his 1832 account, Oliver Cowdery's first installment of Joseph's history in 1834 ''does'' mention that name of the minister<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </ins>Oliver <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">stated when he began writing Joseph's history that he had </ins>obtained that information from Joseph <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">himself</ins>:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820. "In the pursuit of his ministerial duties Rev. Lane was in the geographical proximity of Joseph Smith on a number of occasions between the years 1819-1825. The nature degree or indeed the actuality of their acquaintanceship during this interval poses a number of interesting possibilities... In July 1820 Lane would have had to pass through the greater Palmyra-Manchester vicinity..unless he went by an extremely circuitous route. Present records do not specify Lane's itinerary or exact route... but they do for Lane's friend, Rev. George Peck... [Peck's] conference route took him north to Ithaca, then on to a camp meeting in the Holland Purchase, subsequently passing along the Ridge Road to Rochester... As Rev. Peck, [Lane] may even have stopped at a camp meeting somewhere along the way. A preacher of his standing would always be a welcome guest." [https://byustudies.byu.edu/shop/PDFSRC/9.3Porter.pdf] Smith never mentions the name of the minister.</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>According to Mormon apologist Larry C. Porter, the Methodist minister, George Lane, may have passed very near the Smith home and preached at a camp meeting along the way in July of 1820. "In the pursuit of his ministerial duties Rev. Lane was in the geographical proximity of Joseph Smith on a number of occasions between the years 1819-1825. The nature degree or indeed the actuality of their acquaintanceship during this interval poses a number of interesting possibilities... In July 1820 Lane would have had to pass through the greater Palmyra-Manchester vicinity..unless he went by an extremely circuitous route. Present records do not specify Lane's itinerary or exact route... but they do for Lane's friend, Rev. George Peck... [Peck's] conference route took him north to Ithaca, then on to a camp meeting in the Holland Purchase, subsequently passing along the Ridge Road to Rochester... As Rev. Peck, [Lane] may even have stopped at a camp meeting somewhere along the way. A preacher of his standing would always be a welcome guest." [https://byustudies.byu.edu/shop/PDFSRC/9.3Porter.pdf] Smith never mentions the name of the minister.</ref> </div></td></tr>
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</table>RogerNicholsonhttps://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/vastauksia/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:RogerNicholson/Sandbox5/How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented&diff=40902&oldid=prevRogerNicholson: /* Joseph Smith's 1835 account */ mod2009-04-11T03:02:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Joseph Smith's 1835 account: </span> mod</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></blockquote></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Although the wiki author takes pains to point out that neither of the "two unidentified personages" was identified as Jesus Christ, it should be obvious from the earlier 1832 account (which mentioned Jesus Christ) that Joseph is describing the same encounter.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Although the wiki author takes pains to point out that neither of the "two unidentified personages" was identified as Jesus Christ, it should be obvious from the earlier 1832 account (which mentioned Jesus Christ) that Joseph is describing the same encounter.</div></td></tr>
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</table>RogerNicholsonhttps://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/vastauksia/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:RogerNicholson/Sandbox5/How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented&diff=40901&oldid=prevRogerNicholson: /* Joseph Smith's 1835 account */ mod2009-04-11T03:00:45Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Joseph Smith's 1835 account: </span> mod</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>Abanes, 16; [http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Scans/first-vision-1835A.html the 1835 account]. In 1835, Smith approved the [[Lectures on Faith]], an orderly presentation of Mormonism (probably by [[Sidney Rigdon]]) in which it was taught that although Jesus Christ had a tangible body of flesh, God the Father was a spiritual presence--a view not out of harmony with orthodox Christian belief. The ''Lectures on Faith'' were canonized as scripture by the LDS Church and included as part of the [[Doctrine and Covenants]] until de-canonized after 1921. (Bushman, 283-84.)</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>Abanes, 16; [http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Scans/first-vision-1835A.html the 1835 account]. In 1835, Smith approved the [[Lectures on Faith]], an orderly presentation of Mormonism (probably by [[Sidney Rigdon]]) in which it was taught that although Jesus Christ had a tangible body of flesh, God the Father was a spiritual presence--a view not out of harmony with orthodox Christian belief. The ''Lectures on Faith'' were canonized as scripture by the LDS Church and included as part of the [[Doctrine and Covenants]] until de-canonized after 1921. (Bushman, 283-84.)</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*{{WikipediaSYN}} What does the footnote's description of the ''Lectures on Faith'' have to do with the 1835 First Vision? The wiki author is attempting to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tie </del>the Lectures on Faith to the First Vision without a source to back up this association.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*{{WikipediaSYN}} What does the footnote's description of the ''Lectures on Faith'' have to do with the 1835 First Vision <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">account</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Nothing. </ins>The wiki author is attempting to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">slip in a bit of original research and synthesis by implying a connection between </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>Lectures on Faith<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'' </ins>to the First Vision without a source to back up this association.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*From Joseph's 1835 diary:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*From Joseph's 1835 diary:</div></td></tr>
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</table>RogerNicholsonhttps://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/vastauksia/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:RogerNicholson/Sandbox5/How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented&diff=40900&oldid=prevRogerNicholson: /* Joseph Smith's 1835 account */ mod2009-04-11T02:57:53Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Joseph Smith's 1835 account: </span> mod</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>Abanes, 16; [http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Scans/first-vision-1835A.html the 1835 account]. In 1835, Smith approved the [[Lectures on Faith]], an orderly presentation of Mormonism (probably by [[Sidney Rigdon]]) in which it was taught that although Jesus Christ had a tangible body of flesh, God the Father was a spiritual presence--a view not out of harmony with orthodox Christian belief. The ''Lectures on Faith'' were canonized as scripture by the LDS Church and included as part of the [[Doctrine and Covenants]] until de-canonized after 1921. (Bushman, 283-84.)</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>Abanes, 16; [http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Scans/first-vision-1835A.html the 1835 account]. In 1835, Smith approved the [[Lectures on Faith]], an orderly presentation of Mormonism (probably by [[Sidney Rigdon]]) in which it was taught that although Jesus Christ had a tangible body of flesh, God the Father was a spiritual presence--a view not out of harmony with orthodox Christian belief. The ''Lectures on Faith'' were canonized as scripture by the LDS Church and included as part of the [[Doctrine and Covenants]] until de-canonized after 1921. (Bushman, 283-84.)</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*What does the footnote's description of the Lectures on Faith have to do with the 1835 First Vision?</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{WikipediaSYN}} </ins>What does the footnote's description of the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>Lectures on Faith<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'' </ins>have to do with the 1835 First Vision? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The wiki author is attempting to tie the Lectures on Faith to the First Vision without a source to back up this association.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*From Joseph's 1835 diary:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*From Joseph's 1835 diary:</div></td></tr>
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</table>RogerNicholsonhttps://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/vastauksia/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:RogerNicholson/Sandbox5/How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented&diff=40899&oldid=prevRogerNicholson: /* Joseph Smith's 1835 account */ mod2009-04-11T02:55:59Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Joseph Smith's 1835 account: </span> mod</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>Abanes, 16; [http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Scans/first-vision-1835A.html the 1835 account]. In 1835, Smith approved the [[Lectures on Faith]], an orderly presentation of Mormonism (probably by [[Sidney Rigdon]]) in which it was taught that although Jesus Christ had a tangible body of flesh, God the Father was a spiritual presence--a view not out of harmony with orthodox Christian belief. The ''Lectures on Faith'' were canonized as scripture by the LDS Church and included as part of the [[Doctrine and Covenants]] until de-canonized after 1921. (Bushman, 283-84.)</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ref>Abanes, 16; [http://www.irr.org/mit/First-Vision-Scans/first-vision-1835A.html the 1835 account]. In 1835, Smith approved the [[Lectures on Faith]], an orderly presentation of Mormonism (probably by [[Sidney Rigdon]]) in which it was taught that although Jesus Christ had a tangible body of flesh, God the Father was a spiritual presence--a view not out of harmony with orthodox Christian belief. The ''Lectures on Faith'' were canonized as scripture by the LDS Church and included as part of the [[Doctrine and Covenants]] until de-canonized after 1921. (Bushman, 283-84.)</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*From Joseph's 1835 diary:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*From Joseph's 1835 diary:</div></td></tr>
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</table>RogerNicholsonhttps://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/vastauksia/index.php?title=K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:RogerNicholson/Sandbox5/How_the_vision_story_has_been_presented&diff=40898&oldid=prevRogerNicholson: /* Joseph Smith's 1835 account */ mod2009-04-11T02:52:24Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Joseph Smith's 1835 account: </span> mod</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Contrary to the author's repeated assertion that Joseph said that "all churches" were corrupt, he never said that. He said that he was told that "their creeds were an abomination."</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Contrary to the author's repeated assertion that Joseph said that "all churches" were corrupt, he never said that. He said that he was told that "their creeds were an abomination."</div></td></tr>
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