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The Book of Abraham. An inspired translation of the writings of Abraham. Joseph Smith began the translation in 1835 after obtaining some Egyptian papyri. The translation was published serially in the Times and Seasons beginning March 1, 1842, at Nauvoo, Illinois.
—Introduction, Pearl of Great Price (2013 edition). off-site
- Response to section: "scholars have found the original papyrus Joseph translated and have dated it in first century AD, nearly 2,000 years after Abraham could have written it"
- Response to section: "It has absolutely nothing to do with Abraham or anything Joseph claimed in his translation for the Book of Abraham"
- Response to section: Facsimile 1
- Response to section: "The following image is what Facsimile 1 is really supposed to look like"
- Response to section: Facsimile 2
- Response to section: Facsimile 3
- Response to section: "the sun gets its light from Kolob"
- Response to section: "There’s a book published in 1830 by Thomas Dick entitled 'The Philosophy of the Future State'"
- Response to section: "Elder Jeffrey R. Holland was directly asked about the papyri not matching the Book of Abraham in a March 2012 BBC interview"
Response Section
"scholars have found the original papyrus Joseph translated and have dated it in first century AD, nearly 2,000 years after Abraham could have written it"
"It has absolutely nothing to do with Abraham or anything Joseph claimed in his translation for the Book of Abraham"
Facsimile 1
"The following image is what Facsimile 1 is really supposed to look like"
The Charles Larson restoration of Facsimile 1
Facsimile 2
Facsimile 3
Joseph Smith identified the ithyphallic Egyptian god "Min" as representing "God sitting upon his throne"
Jump to details:
- Question: If modern Egyptologists say that this is a representation of Min, and Min is a “pagan” God, how could Joseph Smith say that it represents God sitting on his throne?
- Question: Is the representation of Min actually Egyptian "pornography"?
- Question: Who is this Egyptian god "Min"?
"the sun gets its light from Kolob"
"There’s a book published in 1830 by Thomas Dick entitled 'The Philosophy of the Future State'"
"Elder Jeffrey R. Holland was directly asked about the papyri not matching the Book of Abraham in a March 2012 BBC interview"
== Notes ==
- [note] Hugh Nibley, An Approach to the Book of Abraham, edited by John Gee, Vol. 18 in the Collected Works of Hugh Nibley (Salt Lake City and Provo, Utah: Deseret Book / FARMS, 2009), 546. ISBN 1606410547.
- [note] Michael Ash, “Book of Abraham 201: Papyri, Revelation, and Modern Egyptology”, presented at the 2006 FAIR Conference. FAIR link (Accessed 29 August, 2009).
- [note] Robert K. Ritner, “The Breathing Permit of Hor Among the Joseph Smith Papyri," Journal of Near Eastern Studies, (University of Chicago, 2003), p. 162, note 4. Dr. Ritner is one of Dr. John Gee's former professors at Yale. Ritner's article in the Journal of Near eastern Studies is highly critical of his former student's involvement with any LDS apologetic effort on the part of the Book of Abraham, specifically because he was not included in a peer review.
- [note] Larry E. Morris, "The Book of Abraham: Ask the Right Questions and Keep On Looking (Review of: “The ‘Breathing Permit of Hor’ Thirty-four Years Later.” Dialogue 33/4 (2000): 97–119)," FARMS Review 16/2 (2004): 355–380. off-site
- [note] Larry E. Morris, "The Book of Abraham: Ask the Right Questions and Keep On Looking (Review of: “The ‘Breathing Permit of Hor’ Thirty-four Years Later.” Dialogue 33/4 (2000): 97–119)," FARMS Review 16/2 (2004): 355–380. off-site