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Joseph Smith

Some Puzzles from the Joseph Smith Papyri

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Question

What do we know about the Joseph Smith Papyri and their relationship to the Book of Abraham?

Short Answer

John Gee argues that the surviving Joseph Smith Papyri are only part of the collection Joseph Smith possessed and that substantial portions of at least some scrolls are missing. Because those portions no longer survive, he concludes that Egyptology cannot determine whether the missing papyri contained the Book of Abraham.

Key Takeaways
  • The surviving Joseph Smith Papyri came from a larger collection acquired by Joseph Smith in 1835.
  • Nineteenth-century eyewitnesses described rolls and papyrus material that do not correspond completely with the surviving fragments.
  • Gee uses scroll winding measurements to argue that substantial portions of some papyri are missing.
  • He examines Horus, the ancient owner of one scroll, and Horus’s connections with Egyptian priesthood and temple traditions.
  • Egyptian lion-couch imagery and accompanying texts can include sacrifice, punishment, and the destruction of enemies.
  • Gee distinguishes between what surviving evidence can establish and what remains unknowable because portions of the papyri are lost.

Summary

Summary

John Gee examines historical and Egyptological puzzles surrounding the Joseph Smith Papyri, including their provenance, surviving fragments, original length, ancient owners, and relationship to the Book of Abraham. He argues that significant portions of the papyri are missing and explores what surviving evidence can—and cannot—establish about their original contents.

TL;DR

TL;DR (Too Long; Didn’t Read)

The surviving Joseph Smith Papyri represent only part of the collection Joseph Smith possessed, and John Gee argues that historical eyewitness accounts and scroll measurements indicate substantial material is missing. He also examines the ancient owner Horus, Egyptian temple practices, and Facsimile 1, while emphasizing that scholarship cannot determine what the missing portions contained.

Introduction of John Gee

So with that, I’m very pleased to introduce our next speaker.

John Gee received an M.A. from the University of California, Berkeley, and a Ph.D. from Yale University. He is the William “Bill” Gay Associate Research Professor of Egyptology at the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship at Brigham Young University.

I forgot to tell you, John, I was in Bill Gay’s ward for a while, so he’s a very nice man. He’s very good.

He’s the author of more than 80 publications dealing with Mormon subjects, Egyptology, and the ancient Near East. His writings have been published by publishers such as American University in Cairo Press, [East?] Foundation—and I can’t read it because it’s in French, I think, or I’m not sure—[unintelligible], anyway, [unintelligible], the Carsten Niebuhr Institute for Near Eastern Studies, another one I can’t read, [unintelligible], and I’m skipping down these other ones I can’t read, a number of other publishers.

His work has appeared in journals and series like the Bulletin [unintelligible]. I should have gone on a French-speaking mission, I can tell. So here’s one I can read, the [unintelligible]. I went German-speaking mission. That’s good. Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt and the Journal of the Society for the Study of Egyptian Antiquities, Oriens Antiquus, another one I can’t read, and a few more.

Of course, he has been in the Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, the FARMS Review. His work has been vetted by numerous Egyptologists, including James Allen, Jan Assmann, Burkhard Backes, Laurent Bavay, Jean Bingen, Michel Broze, Christine Cardin, Michel Chauveau, Eugene [unintelligible], and a whole bunch more. Forgive me, John, because there’s a long list of Egyptologists and other people who vetted his work.

He is on the Board of Trustees for the Study of Egyptian Antiquities. He’s given Egyptological presentations at conferences at Atlanta, Brown University, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Jersey City, Johns Hopkins University, San Antonio, Tucson, University of California, Berkeley, University of Kansas, Washington, D.C., Yale University, Budapest, Cairo, [unintelligible], the [unintelligible], the Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universität Bonn, the Royal Ontario Museum, the Université Libre de Bruxelles, University of Copenhagen, and the University of Toronto.

With that, with a partial introduction, I will introduce John.

[Applause]

[Music]

The Book of Abraham and the Pre-Existence

It is an honor to follow the ever-eloquent Terryl Givens. Terryl has discussed the Western views of the pre-existence.

Although the concept of the pre-existence is alluded to in various places in Latter-day Saint scriptures, the clearest discussion comes from the Book of Abraham, and it is almost the only reason that Latter-day Saints use the Book of Abraham.

Of the 378 quotations of the Book of Abraham in general conference since 1942, 238, or 63 percent, come from the section on the pre-existence in Abraham 3:18–28. The next most commonly cited passage is the section on the Abrahamic covenant in Abraham 2:6–11, which is cited 42 times, for 11 percent of the citations.

The Book of Abraham in Church Curriculum

The situation is mirrored in the Church’s Sunday curriculum materials, where the Book of Abraham is cited 206 times. Again, the section on the pre-existence is the most commonly cited, and the Abrahamic covenant is second.

Whatever else the Book of Abraham says is of comparative minor importance to Latter-day Saints. My topic, therefore, is irrelevant to the doctrine of Christ. It is a mere mote in our eyes, but a beam in the eyes of the critics.

Now, some of you here are so intimately acquainted with the discussions about the Book of Abraham and the Joseph Smith Papyri that you are inseparably wedded to them. Some of you are somewhat acquainted with the arguments, but perhaps not yet on a first-name basis. Others of you are vaguely aware that some discussion exists, but have not yet been introduced to it.

I hope I will have something for all of you.

The “Mess” of the Joseph Smith Papyri

For those of you who are new, allow me to introduce you to what I have affectionately referred to as the mess of the Joseph Smith Papyri.

The fullest discussion of the origins of the Joseph Smith Papyri in the Church’s Sunday curriculum is in the Gospel Doctrine manual for the Old Testament. It says, quote, “The book of Abraham is a translation that the Prophet Joseph Smith made from some Egyptian papyri.”

That is it.

The Church’s Official Position

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has no official position on how the Book of Abraham was translated or from what papyrus.

Now, just because the Church has no official position does not mean that individual members do not have some opinions on the subject.

Church members tend to divide into four opinions about the translation of the Book of Abraham.

Four Views of the Book of Abraham Translation

The smallest group, comprising about one-half of one percent of Mormons, according to my informal, admittedly unscientific surveys, think that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham from the existing fragments that were in the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

The next largest group think that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham from papyrus fragments that are no longer in existence.

About one-third of Mormons think that there is, or was, no connection between the Book of Abraham and any papyrus fragments.

The largest group, more than half of Mormons, do not care where the Book of Abraham came from.

Critics routinely assert that the Mormon position is the one that is actually the least popular of all Mormon positions. They want it to be the Mormon position because it is the most convenient straw man.

Warren Parrish on the Translation Process

The only eyewitness to the translation process to describe it was Joseph Smith’s scribe Warren Parrish, who, after he left the Church, claimed, quote, “I have set by his side and penned down the translation of the Egyptian hieroglyphics as he claimed to receive it by direct inspiration of Heaven.”

The majority of Church members are probably comfortable leaving the discussion of the translation of the Book of Abraham at that, and on this occasion I will leave it at that too, except to say that so far no theory about the translation of the papyri accounts for all the evidence.

The Saga of the Joseph Smith Papyri

Today, however, I would like to take a look at the papyri themselves and some of the puzzles surrounding them, namely: What papyri did Joseph Smith have, and what do we know about the ancient owners of the papyri?

And we may not be able to cover all of this here, and certainly can’t cover all of the possible topics on either the papyri or the Book of Abraham. I’m not even going to try.

Now, the saga of the Joseph Smith Papyri begins in the early part of the 19th century, during the pillaging of Egypt that at that time passed for archaeology.

One of those involved in the plunder and pillage of Egypt was Antonio Lebolo. He exhumed one of the most spectacular caches of mummies and papyri from Thebes that Egyptology has ever known. I used to think that the accounts of several hundred mummies were vastly exaggerated. I am no longer so sure.

Lebolo was acting as an agent procuring antiquities for Drovetti, but kept a few for himself. These were sent via Albano Oblasser to America, paraded around the country, and sold off piecemeal until the remainder were sold by Michael Chandler to the Church in July of 1835.

The Church got four mummies and at least five papyri.

From Joseph Smith to the Metropolitan Museum

After Joseph Smith’s mother’s death in 1856, the papyri were sold to Abel Combs, who sold part of the collection to a museum in St. Louis, which eventually moved to Chicago and burned to the ground in the Chicago Fire of 1871. And he kept part of the collection for himself.

Combs’s collection passed through various hands until it was acquired by the Metropolitan Museum of Art in 1947.

The Metropolitan Museum of Art knew that they had acquired, quote, “Papyrus fragments of hieratic Books of the Dead, once the property of the Mormon leader Joseph Smith.”

The Metropolitan Museum was fully aware of what the papyri were when they first saw them in 1918, and they knew what they were doing when they acquired them.

Rediscovery of the Papyri

Klaus Baer recalled, “I saw photographs of them for the first time in 1963, I believe, and was asked at that time, on my honor, not to tell anyone where they were and to keep the whole thing confidential.”

The guard had changed at the museum, and the new curators were not as keen to have the papyri as the previous curators had been.

Henry Fischer, curator of the Department of Egyptian Art at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in the late 1960s, explained how the museum decided to deal with their religious hot potato:

“We knew, since Atiya worked in Salt Lake City and was acquainted with leaders of the Mormon Church, that he might very tactfully find out how they felt about it. So we simply informed him about this in confidence, and I think he handled the matter very nicely.”

The newspapers garbled the story by wrongly making Atiya the discoverer of the documents, which disturbed Fischer. He wrote to Atiya as follows:

“Although I was already aware that your version of the discovery of these documents had caused considerable confusion, it was startling to read that you had informed me of their existence. While I have taken pains to avoid any outright contradictions of what you said, I do not see why either I or the other members of my department, past and present, should be put in the position of being ignorant about facts we could not fail to have known.”

What Survives Today

The Metropolitan Museum of Art gave the papyri back to the Church in 1967, 40 years ago this November.

The papyri have now remained in one set of hands for the longest time since their excavation.

The papyri we currently have are 11 groups of fragments from three different papyri, containing two partial copies of what is usually misnamed the Book of the Dead, and part of a copy of what is usually misnamed the Document of Breathings Made by Isis.

The extant fragments do not contain any text from the Book of Abraham.

We know what we currently have, but how much papyri did Joseph Smith have?

How Much Papyri Did Joseph Smith Have?

Critics want to minimize the amount of papyri originally owned by Joseph Smith, preferably to an amount not much more than what we currently have, because they do not want a Book of Abraham to have ever existed.

As Richard Bushman has noted, people who have broken away from Mormonism have to justify their decision to leave. They cannot countenance evidence of divine inspiration in Joseph Smith’s teaching without catching themselves in a disastrous error.

So critics who have left the Church cannot allow Joseph Smith to have gotten anything right, even by a guess or by accident. They will go to extreme lengths and propound convoluted theories to have something else, anything else, to believe in.

Dale Morgan on Joseph Smith

The critic Dale Morgan, in a moment of candor, wrote:

“With my point of view on God, I am incapable of accepting the claims of Joseph Smith and the Mormons, be they however so convincing. If God does not exist, how can Joseph Smith’s story have any possible validity? I will look everywhere for explanation except to the one explanation that is the position of the Church.”

So the critics cannot allow themselves to say, as Latter-day Saints can say, whether or not there was a Book of Abraham actually contained on the proportion of papyri that did not survive is something that cannot be determined by scholarly means.

Faith and Unanswered Questions

A Latter-day Saint who has faith—that is, trust in God—can examine such issues without being bothered or without having to know all the answers to all the questions we might have.

In fact, insisting on the answers to all our little questions is a sign of lack of faith or trust.

For example, if we insist that our spouse or employees must account for every moment out of our presence, it is a sign that we do not have faith or trust in them.

Faith, Study, and the Book of Abraham

Abraham, for example, was able to say, “Thy servant has sought thee earnestly. Now I have found thee. Thou didst send thine angel to deliver me from the gods of Elkenah, and I will do well to hearken unto thy voice.”

He trusted God on the basis of one past experience without having to know all the details about how the Lord was going to fulfill his promises.

Likewise, a Latter-day Saint who trusts God and his prophets—that is, spokesmen—does not need to see the actual Egyptian characters on the papyrus or know any of the details about the translation of the Book of Abraham in order to accept it and act with confidence that this life is a time of testing, when God will “prove us herewith, to see if we will do all things whatsoever the Lord our God shall command us.”

This is the reason why, for the vast majority of Latter-day Saints, the particulars of the translation of the Book of Mormon are not an issue.

Still, as all have not faith, and most of you are here either for a want of faith or a desire to help those who want faith, we are commanded to “seek learning, even by study and also by faith.”

Learning is a partial substitute for and an aid to faith.

What Papyri Did Joseph Smith Have?

So what do we know about the papyri Joseph Smith had?

Between the current fragments and some very bad copies of characters from the papyri, we know that Joseph Smith had papyri or portions of papyri from at least five individuals: Horos, the son of Osoroeris; and [unintelligible]; [unintelligible], the son of [unintelligible]; a woman with the unique name of Neferirnub; and a man named Sesonchis.

Comparing the copies of the papyri with the fragments indicates that in no case do we have a complete record of what Joseph Smith had from these two sources alone.

Eyewitnesses from the Nauvoo period describe a quantity of records written on papyrus and Egyptian hieroglyphs, including: one, some papyri preserved under glass, described as “a number of glazed slides, like picture frames, containing sheets of papyrus with Egyptian inscriptions and hieroglyphics”; two, a long roll of manuscript that contained the Book of Abraham; three, another roll; four, and two or three other small pieces of papyrus with astronomical calculations, epitaphs, etc.

Only the mounted fragments ended up in the Metropolitan Museum of Art and were subsequently given back to The Church of Jesus Christ.

Eyewitness Descriptions of the Papyri

The eyewitnesses not only describe the papyri, but they describe specific vignettes, or pictures, on the papyri.

When eyewitnesses describe the vignettes as being on the papyri mounted under glass, they can be matched with fragments from the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

On the other hand, when the vignettes are described as being on the rolls, the descriptions do not match any of the currently surviving fragments.

Gustav Seyffarth’s 1856 catalog of the Wood Museum in St. Louis indicates that some of the Joseph Smith Papyri were there. Those papyri moved with the Wood Museum to Chicago and were burned in the Chicago Fire of 1871.

Whatever we conjecture their contents to be is only that: conjecture.

Both Mormon and non-Mormon eyewitnesses from the 19th century agree that it was a, quote, “long roll of papyrus” from which our Prophet translated the Book of Abraham, meaning the long roll of manuscript and not one of the mounted fragments that eventually ended up in the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

So the intellectual position that some members follow, and which the critics would have us adopt as the position of the Church, is not in accord with the historical evidence.

How Big Were the Rolls?

So how big were the rolls?

One way to answer that question is to take the standard size for a papyrus roll and just use that. In the Ptolemaic period, a roll was usually about 320 centimeters long and about 32 centimeters high.

I have used such estimates before, but those figures are not entirely satisfactory. As Mark Depauw has pointed out in a later study, the measurements of papyri vary throughout the Ptolemaic period, with different standards applying at different times.

Now, one can take a more scientific—that is, mathematical—approach, because the circumference of a scroll limits the amount of scroll that can be contained inside it.

Thus, we can determine by the size of the circumference and the tightness of the winding how much papyrus can be missing at the interior end of a papyrus roll.

Calculating the Missing Portion of a Scroll

Friedhelm Hoffmann has already developed such a formula in calculating the amount of material missing from the end of Papyrus Spiegelberg, from which he was able to determine that there were five columns missing from the text.

Now, I won’t bore you with the derivation of the formula. It’s up there. It’s been in print for over a decade.

But it boils down to this: if S is the average difference between the winding measurement, and E is the last length—the length of the last, that is, the interior winding—then the theoretical length of the missing portion is Z, so that Z is approximately E squared minus 6.25 over 2S minus E.

We can apply this to the Joseph Smith Papyri and can obtain some usable results.

The Scroll of Neferirnub

For the scroll of Neferirnub, the final winding length is 7.8 centimeters, and the difference is .33 centimeters. The formula says that there is 64 centimeters missing, which is just over two feet.

Thus, this vignette was at the very end of the roll it was on.

Unfortunately, there’s no way of knowing how much is missing off the beginning of the scroll.

The Scroll of Sesonchis

For the Sesonchis scroll, the final winding length is 14 centimeters, and the difference is .25 centimeters.

Thus, there were 365.5 centimeters left on the scroll, and this is the equivalent of 143.5 inches, or nearly 12 feet.

The vignette on Joseph Smith Papyrus II, shown here, is the furthest vignette into the Sesonchis scroll and normally occurs about halfway through the Book of the Dead, which means that the total scroll would be about 20 to 24 feet long.

And this is longer than some scrolls, but shorter than others.

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The Scroll of Horus

For the scroll of Horus, the initial winding length is 9.7 centimeters, the last winding is 9.5 centimeters, and there are seven windings in total. This leaves us with an average value of .0333 for S. E is, as already stated, 9.5 centimeters.

Plugging this into the equation gives 1,250.5 centimeters of missing papyrus. This is the equivalent of 492 inches, or 41 feet of missing papyrus.

Would such a thing be unusual?

Papyrus Turin 1791 is 57 feet 3 inches long. That’s a 1,745-centimeter papyrus. Papyrus Nesmin is 1,280 centimeters long, and the ritual roll of Imuthes in the Metropolitan Museum of Art is 1,088 centimeters long, or 35 feet 8 inches long, while his Book of the Dead is longer still.

So such a length is not out of the question.

Could the Scroll Have Contained Additional Text?

While we know that the scroll of Horus has a Document of Breathings Made by Isis, about one in four of those documents contain additional texts. So the presence of additional text would not be unusual.

Now, the size of Horus’s scroll at first seems excessive, even though it is not unheard of. When I first plugged in the numbers a few years ago and got the result, I checked the measurements and then checked them again. Then I checked the formula again. Then I rechecked the formula’s derivation. Then I rechecked the assumptions behind the formula. Then I simply dismissed them and went back to the standard scroll length.

I had always assumed that the Sesonchis scroll would be the longer one, since the Book of the Dead is a much longer composition than the Document of Breathings Made by Isis, and my initial estimates of the length of the Sesonchis scroll, based on the length of text preserved and the percentage of the Book of the Dead preserved, had been almost 20 feet.

It was only after plugging in the numbers from the other Joseph Smith Papyri into the formula that I realized that the formula does give reasonable results.

The Nineteenth-Century Eyewitnesses

I have since realized that having a long roll of Horus brings all the 19th-century eyewitnesses into agreement.

If we look at the 19th-century eyewitnesses and ask the question, Which of the five known rolls that Joseph Smith had do the eyewitnesses identify as the source of the Book of Abraham? we come up with some useful information.

Charlotte Haven and Jerusha Blanchard identify the long roll as being the source of the Book of Abraham. On the other hand, William Appleby identifies the Book of Abraham as being written by the poor scribe, which matches the Horus roll.

Only if the Horus roll is longer than the Sesonchis roll do the 19th-century eyewitnesses agree. And for that to be the case, the unmounted portion of the Horus roll has to be longer than the 12 feet left on the Sesonchis roll.

Now, one could take an average of S for only the last four windings on the Horus, in which you get .05 centimeters, and still come up with a value for Z of 830.5 centimeters, or 27 feet 3 inches, for Horus’s roll. And it would still be longer than Sesonchis and well within the range of comparable Ptolemaic rolls.

Gustav Seyffarth and Facsimile 3

Furthermore, a lengthy Horus roll accommodates the otherwise problematic testimony of Gustav Seyffarth.

Seyffarth describes Facsimile 3, which is on the roll of Horus, and claims that a portion of the text he saw was an invocation to Osiris.

If all there was on the Horus roll was the Document of Breathings Made by Isis, then the problem is that there is no invocation to Osiris in the portion of text that Seyffarth would have seen, or anywhere in the document, for that matter.

With a longer roll, Seyffarth’s testimony can be accounted for, as there would certainly be room for an invocation to Osiris on the roll, if Seyffarth is even accurate in his interpretation, and who knows what else would be on the roll.

Who Was Horus?

Now, although scholarship is unable to tell us whether or not there was a Book of Abraham on the roll of Horus, perhaps we can tell something about the individual who owned the papyrus and the likelihood that the Book of Abraham might have interested him.

To do so requires moving from the size of the Joseph Smith Papyri to their message.

The puzzle that is before us is to determine what we can know about Horus.

The beginning of the roll of Horus lists Horus’s names, titles, and parents. Horus bore three titles, as in the first line, which are high-ranking positions that he held at some time in his life, perhaps concurrently, perhaps sequentially.

These titles are Prophet of Amonrasonther, Prophet of Min Who Massacres His Enemies, and Prophet of Chespis.

The last two titles are rare, the second one being extremely rare. Only four men are known to have borne it.

Dating Horus and His Family

Horus’s names and titles allow him to be linked with a number of other documents, such as a statue of his father, now in the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore.

These documents yield a family tree covering eight generations, from Horus’s grandfather to his great-great-great-grandsons.

Thanks to a graffito from the Small Temple of Medinet Habu, shown here, we can date the family.

Horus’s third great-grandson is alive in 37 B.C. under the reign of Cleopatra VII, and he mentions there his—Horus’s son died before 157 or 153 B.C., and two of his grandsons died between 146 and 124 B.C.

This would place Horus roughly contemporary with Ptolemy V, which means that this roll from the Joseph Smith Papyri was contemporary with the Rosetta Stone.

Horus probably lived through the revolt of Haronnophris and Chaonnophris, and the priests of Amonrasonther seem to have some special connection with the revolt.

Horus was also probably well acquainted with all three of the languages of the Rosetta Stone. Two of them, hieroglyphs and Demotic, he probably knew better than any Egyptologist alive.

Horus’s Connections to the Temples at Karnak

Horus’s titles link him directly with three of the temples at Karnak.

Prophet of Amonrasonther links him as prophet with the main temple at Karnak. This one—well, not that one. I’ll show it later. But that’s Karnak.

Prophet of Min Who Massacres His Enemies links him with the Min temple north of the main temple, and Prophet of Chespis links him with the small temple of Chespis southwest of the main temple.

Let’s look at these titles in order.

Prophet of Amonrasonther

The first title is the Prophet of Amonrasonther, which means that he’s employed in the Great Temple of Karnak. We know a considerable amount about this temple, the largest surviving one in Egypt.

As prophet, he would have been initiated in the Festival Hall shown here, and he would have had—we have two of the Karnak Temple’s daily rituals preserved. In the first of them, shown here, at least the beginning shown here, the prophet lights a lamp and an incense burner and chants his way into the Holy of Holies through the hypostyle hall.

Holy of Holies, which is now largely destroyed back here. There he sees God and worships him face to face.

The other daily ritual is the execration ritual, where a wax figure of an enemy, on which the enemy’s name is written in fresh ink, was spat upon, trampled under the left foot, smitten with a spear, bound, and placed on the fire.

Any priest or prophet at Karnak would have been intimately acquainted with both of these rituals.

The Temple Library

The temple also had a library, which would have had king lists, annals, prophecies and chronicles, compendia of each nome, medical texts, wisdom and ethical teachings, books of lucky days, dream interpretation manuals, astrological and astronomical texts, lexical texts, geographies, festival books, ritual books, glorification texts, hymns, cult prescriptions, construction manuals, manuals of painting and relief, manuals of purification, offering manuals, calendars of feasts, manuals of cultic receipts, inventories, property lists, instructions, oracle texts, priestly correspondence, temple daybooks, and accounts.

It is from the library in Thebes that the earlier Greek writer Hecataeus wrote an account of Abraham.

Min Who Massacres His Enemies

Horus was also Prophet of Min Who Massacres His Enemies.

The term for “massacre,” “slay,” is also the verb used of slaughtering and sacrificing animals and can be used as a term for the sacrificial offering.

The texts specify that this is done by the knife held in the right hand and the foe in the left, or with a harpoon. The sacrifice is dismembered, and portions of him are put into the brazier as offerings.

The term for enemy, kheru, can also mean sacrificial victim.

The only place where representations of the rituals associated with Min Who Massacres His Enemies appear is on the interior portions of the Bab el-Abd, the gate of the enclosure wall of the Min temple north of the Great Temple of Amon at Karnak.

The gate was built by Ptolemy III Euergetes, the contemporary of Horus’s grandfather, Harsiesis, who was the first prophet of this deity, and the decoration was finished by Ptolemy’s son, Ptolemy IV Philopator.

Subduing Sinners and Burning Enemies

Unlike most of the deities featured on the gateway, Min Who Massacres His Enemies did not have his own temple in the Min complex because his rituals were performed in the courtyard of the Min temple.

Two rituals are associated with him. One of them is labeled “Subduing Sinners,” and the other is “The Burning of Enemies.” Both scenes come from the execration ritual, such as I described from Karnak.

The first scene identifies Min Who Massacres His Enemies with Reshep, a foreign deity imported into Egypt much earlier, and like many non-Egyptian deities imported into Egypt, he is given a different Egyptian name.

The second scene says that he, quote, “smites his enemies in the temple of burning,” and then burns them on the altar of burnt offerings. The gods also “overthrow your enemies in the slaughterhouse,” and they “sacrifice the enemy on your altar.”

The Altar of Burnt Offerings

The term for this altar, which is shown here on the bottom of the slide, of burnt offerings, akh, is described in a number of contemporary texts.

Papyrus Ankhsheshonq tells the story of a rebellion against Pharaoh led by Harsiesis, Pharaoh’s chief physician. The plot is unsuccessful, and the conspirators are rounded up.

Pharaoh “caused an altar of earth to be built at the gate of Pharaoh’s palace. He caused Harsiesis, son of Ramose, to be placed on the altar akh of copper with all the men whom he had and all the men who were in the plot against Pharaoh.”

Papyrus Vandier tells a story of a group of priests who are jealous of Merire and have him put to death so that the Pharaoh can live longer and Pharaoh can marry Merire’s wife.

But Merire appears to Pharaoh in a vision and reproves him. As a consequence, Pharaoh, quote, “caused all the priests to be brought outside the prison. Pharaoh went with them to Heliopolis. He caused them to be killed. He caused them to be placed on the altar before Mut, who carries her brother in Heliopolis.”

Accounts of Enemies Placed on an Altar

In Papyrus Rylands 9, the cry goes forth against one set of enemies, quote, “Let our lord bring these young men who have abandoned our ways, and let them be placed on an altar, akh.”

Papyrus P. Saqqara 2, published just last year, begins with the following fragmentary text, quote, “Necho caused to be set up an altar [broken] you yourself, they would have placed on the altar,” and then unfortunately breaks off again.

Thus, stories about slaughtering and then burning people on an altar were common in the time of the Joseph Smith Papyri, and Horus, the owner of Papyrus Joseph Smith I, had a professional interest in such things.

The Temple of Chespisichis

The Temple of Chespisichis is first mentioned by Lepsius, where it is listed as Temple V. Lepsius is a very early Egyptologist, 1840s.

By 1885, when Wiedemann visited the site, he found it, quote, “almost entirely in ruins.” The temple walls had been disassembled and used to fence a garden, and the inscriptions, quote, “almost entirely destroyed.”

But he found some probably reused blocks of the 18th Dynasty king Thutmose III, as well as fragments of 29th Dynasty king Nepherites I, as well as Ptolemaic materials, and some fragments he thought belonged to the 26th Dynasty king Psammetichus.

Later work indicates that the cult of Chespisichis seems only to have existed since the 19th Dynasty, about the time of Moses, where he is particularly known as a healer.

He is said to be one who, quote, “publishes the book of death and life.”

He is a savior god who rescues from all manner of sickness, death, and catastrophe.

Chespisichis at Tod and Karnak

Two other places depict him: the Temple of Tod, located a few miles south of Thebes, and on the Ptolemaic gateway of the main Khonsu Temple at Karnak.

There he is at Tod, and there’s his images at the Khonsu Temple in Karnak.

At the Tod Temple, the inscription refers to “subduing the weaklings,” a betu, a derogatory term for foreigners, and depicts, under the name of Chespisichis, a jackal-headed figure wielding knives.

The only inscription that really remains of the Temple of Chespisichis is a single stela now in the Louvre, more commonly known as the Bentresh Stela.

The Bentresh Stela

Stylistically, the Bentresh Stela most closely matches the Ptolemaic style of Ptolemy IV, although Ptolemy III has also been argued.

Lanny Bell reported the discovery of another copy of this text back in 1979, but he never published it.

The Bentresh Stela tells the story of an otherwise unattested king named Ramesses, whose names are a mixture of those of Ramesses II, IV, and one of the Thutmoses, who made his annual trip to Mesopotamia to collect tribute.

He marries a princess of Bakhtan, perhaps a corruption of the Egyptian word for Hittite, rather than a reference to Bactria, modern Afghanistan.

When the princess’s sister, Bentresh, gets sick, first a priest is sent, then the god Chespisichis to heal her of her illness. She had been possessed by an angel.

Finally, after many years, Chespisichis appears to the ruler of Bakhtan in a dream and requests that he be sent back to Egypt, and much tribute comes with him.

As Prophet of Chespisichis, we can be fairly confident that Horus would have read this text at some point in his life.

The god appearing in visions and dreams, Egyptian presence in Syria and Mesopotamia, angels interfering in human affairs, sicknesses caused by spiritual beings, and a savior—all of these are elements shared between the world of Horus and the Book of Abraham.

Facsimile 1

Next on the roll of Horus is a vignette which we know as Facsimile 1.

The facsimiles from the Book of Abraham interest people as three illustrations floating like islands in the sea of thousands of pages of words in our scripture.

Despite the interest in the facsimiles, there is no emphasis put on them in the Church or the current curriculum material.

Facsimile 1 is mentioned only once, in an optional enrichment activity in a lesson for 8- through 11-year-olds. Facsimile 2 has been mentioned only once in general conference in the last 65 years.

I cannot help but wonder if the critics attack the facsimiles because they are relatively insignificant in the Church.

Challenges in Interpreting Egyptian Vignettes

The facsimiles, like all vignettes, present a number of challenges, and it is worth remembering a few things about the placement of vignettes, the drawing of vignettes, and the identifications of figures on vignettes.

With regard to the placement of vignettes, I will read a number of quotes from Egyptologists about Late Period documents in general and Ptolemaic texts in particular.

The list is lengthy because it is a common thing, but everyone seems to want to treat the Joseph Smith Papyri as a special exception to a general rule, and I do not think we should do so.

From Malcolm Mosher, who specializes in Late Period religious texts, quote:

“In documents from the 21st Dynasty on, misalignment of the text and vignette of a spell can occur, with the text preceding the vignette or vice versa. While this type of problem can be observed sporadically from the late New Kingdom on, it is more common in the Late Period.

“The problem is particularly acute when more spells are textually represented for such a group than there are vignettes. It can be difficult to determine which spells have a vignette and which do not.

“A similar problem of misalignment frequently encountered in late documents is where the vignette for a particular spell is [with] the wrong text, and the correct text is not found in the document.”

Difficulties in Vignette Research

From Henk Milde, probably the foremost authority on papyrus vignettes, quote:

“Unfortunately, the connection between text and pictures is not always clear-cut. One has to take into account at least the following difficulties in vignette research that are here placed in eight categories:

“One, spatial discrepancy between text and vignette.” That means that the vignettes and the texts are far apart.

“Two, incorrect combination of text and vignette in the original.

“Three, incorrect combination of text and vignette in studies and editions of the Book of the Dead.

“Four, unclear relation between the text and vignette.

“Five, transfer or omission of pictorial elements.

“Six, inundation of the picture.

“Seven, combination and contamination of pictorial elements of different vignettes.

“And eight, conglomeration of texts under a vignette.”

Text and Vignette Do Not Always Correspond

From Marc Étienne of the Louvre, the vignettes, quote, “often do not have but a very distant connection with the discussion written beneath.”

From Jean-Claude Goyon, who has published so many Late Period papyri, quote, “The vignettes do not always correspond to the chapters which the text prescribes.”

This is particularly the case in Documents of Breathings Made by Isis, as discussed by Mark Coenen, probably the foremost expert on these texts, quote:

“The relation between the text and the vignettes in the text is not straightforward. The vignettes are not meant to illustrate the contents of the composition.”

In other words, the vignettes in the Document of Breathings Made by Isis usually do not match the text and may not even belong to it.

This would explain why, quote, “the vignette of Papyrus Joseph Smith I represents new themes and contains a variety of unique features.”

The Unique Vignette of Papyrus Joseph Smith I

The vignette in Papyrus Joseph Smith I is, in fact, unique.

After looking at vignettes in thousands of documents from the Saite Period on, I have not found any exact match or anything really very close.

Furthermore, in vignettes from the Ptolemaic Period, quote, “the genders of the various figures are often incorrect. The genders of priests and deities are occasionally confused.”

And we have a nice example on this papyrus, where, as you can see, successive vignettes depict the owner as both male in the top and female in the bottom.

The Perils of Identifying Iconography

Finally, I wish to mention something about the perils of identifying iconography in the vignettes.

The bulk of iconographic study in Egyptology is based on New Kingdom material, and there is a danger in applying such iconographic experience to Ptolemaic materials from a millennium later.

For instance, in the New Kingdom, a jackal-headed figure might be Anubis, but in the Ptolemaic period, jackal-headed figures might be Osiris or Chespisichis or Isdes or Duamutef, while Anubis might have a human or a lion head.

The Dendera Temple Roof Chapels

Egyptologists and many others point to parallels on the roof chapels of the Dendera Temple as parallels for Facsimile 1.

There are over 40 lion couch scenes in these chapels. Eleven are depicted in this wall just right here.

What the critics do not do, however, is read the inscriptions in the Dendera texts.

The word for the lion couch, nmỉt, is either homophonous or identical with the word nmt, abattoir, slaughterhouse, as well as a term for offerings. This is picked up in the inscriptions.

Let’s take the center one here. In the central scene of the innermost eastern chapel, we read, quote:

“He will not exist, nor will his name exist, since you will destroy his town, cast down the walls of his house, and everyone who is in it will be set on fire. You will demolish his district. You will stab his confederates, his flesh being ashes, the evil conspirator consigned to the lion couch so that he will no longer exist.”

In this one, Bastet, who is not pictured, quote, “is your protection every day. She has commanded her messengers to slaughter your enemies.”

Symmetrical with this scene, we have another scene with a broken inscription that mentions ashes and continues, quote, “to burn his flesh with fire.”

So here we have both a scene and descriptions that parallel the Book of Abraham.

Anubis and the Four Sons of Horus

Furthermore, in the same chapels we have depictions of Anubis and the four sons of Horus, who are presumably the figures under the lion couch in Facsimile 1.

They’re all holding knives.

Anubis here is identified as the one, quote, “who smites the adversaries with his might, since the knife is in his hand to expel the one who treads in transgression. I am the violent one who came forth from God after having cut off the heads of the confederates of him whose name is evil.”

The human-headed son of Horus is identified above his head as, quote, “the one who repulses enemies and who comes tearing out the enemies, who butchers the sinners.”

The baboon-headed son of Horus says, “I have slaughtered those who create injuries in the house of God in his presence. I have taken away the breath from his nostrils.”

The jackal-headed son of Horus says, quote, “I caused the hostile foreigners to retreat.”

And finally, the falcon-headed son of Horus says, “I have removed rebellion.”

Sacrifice and Lion Couch Scenes

So the inscriptions from Dendera associate the lion couch scene with the sacrificial slaughter of enemies.

Nor are they the only depictions of lion couch scenes to do so.

This one, for example, contains instructions that it is, quote, “to stab or cut your disobedient ones, to sacrifice your apostates, to overthrow your enemies every day. May your flames shoot out against your enemies each and every day, so that you remain while your adversaries are overthrown.”

This frequently occurring lion couch scene contains the description, “The lords of truth cause the sacrifice of the evildoers.”

This is interpreted as being either Shesmu, a knife-wielding jackal-headed deity, or Sobek, who is in his water, crocodile deity.

Imsety, Duamutef, and Qebehsenuef, the sons of Horus, are described as forming, quote, “the council behind Osiris, who cause the sacrifice of the evildoers by placing knives into the evildoers and incinerating the souls of the evildoers.”

They are said to be put in place by Anubis.

Excluding a sacrificial dimension to lion couch scenes is un-Egyptian, even if we cannot come up with one definitive reading at this time.

The Document of Breathings Made by Isis

Now, the next thing that we know for certain was on the roll of Horus is the misnamed Document of Breathings Made by Isis.

As I’m down to four minutes, um, and we’ll just have to skip over the Document of Breathings and Facsimile 3.

What Can Scholarship Prove?

Now, um, have we proven anything here?

No.

You cannot prove that the Joseph Smith Papyri contained the Book of Abraham, and you cannot prove that they do not.

And since, for the most part, Latter-day Saints and Egyptologists agree that the preserved portions of the Joseph Smith Papyri do not contain the Book of Abraham, there is the possibility of détente between the two.

As scholarship cannot tell what was or what was not on the missing papyri, Egyptologists could stick to what is knowable from the remains, and Latter-day Saints could trust God about the origins of the Book of Abraham.

Faith and Things Unseen

Our trust, or faith, in God becomes, for those fortunate enough to possess it, the basis of what we hope for, the evidence of things unseen.

Those who have it require no other proof.

Those who have chosen not to trust God will not be persuaded though one rose from the dead.

If we had the papyrus from which the Book of Abraham was translated—and I testify that we do not—the critics would not believe it, and most of them could not read it anyway.

The Irony of the Joseph Smith Papyri

One of the ironies of the Joseph Smith Papyri is that the Egyptologists who are quick to point out what the papyri are not are otherwise uninterested in what they contain.

They could be a laundry list, a get-well card, or the greatest piece of literature ever written. It does not matter, so long as they were not the Book of Abraham, so long as they are not scripture, so long as they do not contain the words of God, so long as they are not conveyed by a prophet of God.

Here, though, is another great irony.

The Rosetta Stone ends with a passage that directs that it be written, quote, “on a stone stela in the writings of words of gods”—that is, hieroglyphs—“the writing of letters”—that is, Demotic—“and the script of the foreigners”—that is, Greek.

For the Egyptians, hieroglyphs are literally the words of God.

The Words of God

The Joseph Smith Papyri contain the words of God conveyed by a prophet of God, just as, for the Latter-day Saints, the Book of Abraham contains the words of God conveyed by a prophet of God.

Watching the efforts to criticize the Book of Abraham, one is impressed with both the secularist and the sectarian search for a savior.

Secularists are not interested in being saved, for example, from their 32 percent illegitimacy rate, their higher-than-average failure rate in school, their double-average smoking—both tobacco and marijuana—and alcoholic drinking rates, their double national average of pornography.

Sectarians are not interested in being saved, for example, from their 50 percent higher-than-average divorce rates, their 88 percent promiscuity rates, their rapid increase in cohabitation, their involvement in pornography, or their double-average racism.

No, both these groups are looking for a savior to save them from the Mormons.

Some of the proposed saviors loudly proclaim, “Here am I, send me, and surely I will do it. Wherefore, give me thine honor.”

Knowing something of these proposed saviors, I cannot say that I have much faith in them.

The truth is, we all need a Savior, if for no other reason than to save us from ourselves. But that Savior is Jesus Christ.

In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Questions and Answers

Let’s see.

Do Any Non-Mormon Egyptologists Give Credence to the Book of Abraham as Ancient History?

Okay. Do you know of many non-Mormon Egyptologists who give credence to the Book of Abraham as ancient history?

Who will do so publicly? No.

Who will do so privately? It depends on who asks them.

Are You Bothered by the Contempt of Church Antagonists?

Are you bothered or puzzled by the strident contempt towards you by many Church antagonists?

Well, if they call the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call his servants?

It goes with the territory.

The “Abraham Upon” Inscription

Can you address the source of the inscription “Abraham upon”? Where did this papyrus come from, date, etc.?

Well, yeah, it’s a broken inscription. We only have half the line of the papyrus.

It’s Papyrus Leiden I 384. It comes from Thebes. It’s paleographically dated to the third or fourth century. I’m not sure I trust paleographic dates from that time.

But, I mean, it’s been published several times. I’ve even published a couple of notes on it myself and discussed the provenance.

It comes from the same town as the Joseph Smith Papyri. It comes from a priestly milieu like the Joseph Smith Papyri.

And there are all kinds of other interesting things we could say about it, but I guess we’ll get to some of the other—

Oh, this is the same question in more detail.

Why Were the Facsimiles Included?

Why were the facsimiles included in the current text of the Book of Abraham?

I don’t know. I’m not a very good mind reader.

What connection do they have to the text?

Well, Facsimile 2 and Facsimile 3 have no connection to the text.

Facsimile 1 has a very interesting connection to the text, and it’s worth reading it carefully and reading Abraham chapter 1.

The interesting thing is, only in Facsimile 1 do we have a clue of what’s going on in the facsimiles.

But even the facsimile itself and the explanations don’t tell you important things that are contained in the text.

For instance, if you just read the text, you wouldn’t know that the angel kills the Egyptian priest. Nothing in the picture depicts that.

And the facsimiles also contain other elements that don’t show up in the text.

And exactly what significance those have, we can debate till the cows come home, because we have no evidence.

How Well Do We Understand the Facsimiles?

So, for the most part, the facsimiles don’t connect with the text. And if they did, we might have a better chance of knowing what’s going on with them.

You take Facsimile 2, for example. Ask around all your Mormon friends and see if anyone has any clue what’s going on in that facsimile, and no one does.

And if you go read through the Egyptological literature, you’ll find that no one knows what’s going on from an ancient Egyptian point of view.

So we want to compare what Joseph Smith said about this facsimile, which we don’t understand, and what the ancient Egyptians said about the facsimile, which we also don’t understand.

And we want to say, are they the same?

Well, how would we know, since we don’t understand either one?

How Accurate Are Joseph Smith’s Explanations?

So it says—this follows straight on that one—Joseph Smith gives explanations for many of the characters in the facsimile. How accurate are his descriptions?

Well, do we know what the ancient Egyptians thought they meant?

It turns out that earlier this week, the latest edition of the FARMS Review came out, and I have a little article in there that addresses this particular issue.

But the main question is, if you want to compare what the ancient Egyptians say and what did Joseph Smith say, you have to figure out what is Joseph Smith saying.

And, for example, Facsimile 2, we don’t know. And for Facsimile 3, we don’t really know.

And then you want to compare what the ancient Egyptians said about them, and we actually don’t know as much as we think we do about that.

And in the meantime, somebody—they—so you want to know, say, is X equal Y, and in the meantime someone introduces Z.

So it’s a bait and switch.

Rather than getting what the ancient Egyptians said about the facsimiles, we get what the modern Egyptologists say about the facsimiles.

I actually have an article in the Egyptological literature that shows that, for the most part, when you look at what the modern Egyptologists say about the facsimiles and what the ancient Egyptians say about them, they don’t match.

So, for the most part, there’s no connection there at all.

So you’re really given bait and switch.

And so, no, the modern Egyptologist descriptions don’t match Joseph Smith’s, but then they don’t match the ancient Egyptians either.

What Would Hugh Nibley Say?

So now this is a really—this is a two-part question. One part is mind reading.

And it says, did you know Hugh Nibley?

Yes, I did.

About as well as anybody who is outside of his family and younger than his youngest child could be expected to know him, which is probably not all that well.

And then he says, and what would he say about this topic?

He’d probably say all kinds of things.

He would probably say them much better than I can, or I did.

He is actually quite eloquent, very insightful, somewhat out of date.

You know, somebody once told me that the true measure of a classic is if your work is still read more than a hundred years after you published it.

In that sense, the Book of Mormon is a classic.

It’s too early to tell if Nibley is a classic, and I probably won’t be one.

I have no delusions about—nobody ever has the last word on this topic. That’s an important thing to remember.

And those of you who are on the message boards get this ad nauseam, even if the last word isn’t worth saying.

So I’m not really going to try to guess what Nibley would say about this topic. He’s published quite a bit about it. You can look at it there, and from his perspective now, he probably knows a whole lot more about it than I do and probably would like to rewrite, revise everything he wrote.

Oops.

All right.

Robert Ritner’s Translation

Okay, so this is one that I missed. It was tucked away on the side.

Oh, I’ve already addressed that one.

It says, I received some anti- material that says that Dr. Robert Ritner trained you, and his translation of the Book of Abraham papyrus contradicts yours. Is this true, and how do you explain this?

Well, actually, it’s hard to say that it contradicts mine because I haven’t published mine yet.

So how would we know?

And let’s see, how do I explain this?

Well, I can explain it because I haven’t published one yet.

So I can see now I’m in the position where I can make a deliberate choice to either follow the line that he has set or deliberately shun it.

Actually, I’ve addressed some of this in an article that’s in press.

There are some places where I don’t know Professor Ritner is relevant. Ought to just leave him alone.

You pity the poor guy. He doesn’t know what he’s gotten himself into.

But, you know, at this point anybody who says that is acting problematically because I haven’t published a translation.

Usually the argument is made that if you look at Klaus Baer and Robert Ritner’s and Hugh Nibley and Michael Rhodes’s translations, they don’t differ that much.

So this is a little bit puzzling.

But be that as it may, thank you all for your attendance.

Have a good lunch.

Introduction of John Gee

So with that, I’m very pleased to introduce our next speaker.

John Gee received an M.A. from the University of California, Berkeley, and a Ph.D. from Yale University. He is the William “Bill” Gay Associate Research Professor of Egyptology at the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship at Brigham Young University.

I forgot to tell you, John, I was in Bill Gay’s ward for a while, so he’s a very nice man. He’s very good.

He’s the author of more than 80 publications dealing with Mormon subjects, Egyptology, and the ancient Near East. His writings have been published by publishers such as American University in Cairo Press, [East?] Foundation—and I can’t read it because it’s in French, I think, or I’m not sure—[unintelligible], anyway, [unintelligible], the Carsten Niebuhr Institute for Near Eastern Studies, another one I can’t read, [unintelligible], and I’m skipping down these other ones I can’t read, a number of other publishers.

His work has appeared in journals and series like the Bulletin [unintelligible]. I should have gone on a French-speaking mission, I can tell. So here’s one I can read, the [unintelligible]. I went German-speaking mission. That’s good. Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt and the Journal of the Society for the Study of Egyptian Antiquities, Oriens Antiquus, another one I can’t read, and a few more.

Of course, he has been in the Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, the FARMS Review. His work has been vetted by numerous Egyptologists, including James Allen, Jan Assmann, Burkhard Backes, Laurent Bavay, Jean Bingen, Michel Broze, Christine Cardin, Michel Chauveau, Eugene [unintelligible], and a whole bunch more. Forgive me, John, because there’s a long list of Egyptologists and other people who vetted his work.

He is on the Board of Trustees for the Study of Egyptian Antiquities. He’s given Egyptological presentations at conferences at Atlanta, Brown University, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Jersey City, Johns Hopkins University, San Antonio, Tucson, University of California, Berkeley, University of Kansas, Washington, D.C., Yale University, Budapest, Cairo, [unintelligible], the [unintelligible], the Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universität Bonn, the Royal Ontario Museum, the Université Libre de Bruxelles, University of Copenhagen, and the University of Toronto.

With that, with a partial introduction, I will introduce John.

[Applause]

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The Book of Abraham and the Pre-Existence

It is an honor to follow the ever-eloquent Terryl Givens. Terryl has discussed the Western views of the pre-existence.

Although the concept of the pre-existence is alluded to in various places in Latter-day Saint scriptures, the clearest discussion comes from the Book of Abraham, and it is almost the only reason that Latter-day Saints use the Book of Abraham.

Of the 378 quotations of the Book of Abraham in general conference since 1942, 238, or 63 percent, come from the section on the pre-existence in Abraham 3:18–28. The next most commonly cited passage is the section on the Abrahamic covenant in Abraham 2:6–11, which is cited 42 times, for 11 percent of the citations.

The Book of Abraham in Church Curriculum

The situation is mirrored in the Church’s Sunday curriculum materials, where the Book of Abraham is cited 206 times. Again, the section on the pre-existence is the most commonly cited, and the Abrahamic covenant is second.

Whatever else the Book of Abraham says is of comparative minor importance to Latter-day Saints. My topic, therefore, is irrelevant to the doctrine of Christ. It is a mere mote in our eyes, but a beam in the eyes of the critics.

Now, some of you here are so intimately acquainted with the discussions about the Book of Abraham and the Joseph Smith Papyri that you are inseparably wedded to them. Some of you are somewhat acquainted with the arguments, but perhaps not yet on a first-name basis. Others of you are vaguely aware that some discussion exists, but have not yet been introduced to it.

I hope I will have something for all of you.

The “Mess” of the Joseph Smith Papyri

For those of you who are new, allow me to introduce you to what I have affectionately referred to as the mess of the Joseph Smith Papyri.

The fullest discussion of the origins of the Joseph Smith Papyri in the Church’s Sunday curriculum is in the Gospel Doctrine manual for the Old Testament. It says, quote, “The book of Abraham is a translation that the Prophet Joseph Smith made from some Egyptian papyri.”

That is it.

The Church’s Official Position

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has no official position on how the Book of Abraham was translated or from what papyrus.

Now, just because the Church has no official position does not mean that individual members do not have some opinions on the subject.

Church members tend to divide into four opinions about the translation of the Book of Abraham.

Four Views of the Book of Abraham Translation

The smallest group, comprising about one-half of one percent of Mormons, according to my informal, admittedly unscientific surveys, think that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham from the existing fragments that were in the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

The next largest group think that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham from papyrus fragments that are no longer in existence.

About one-third of Mormons think that there is, or was, no connection between the Book of Abraham and any papyrus fragments.

The largest group, more than half of Mormons, do not care where the Book of Abraham came from.

Critics routinely assert that the Mormon position is the one that is actually the least popular of all Mormon positions. They want it to be the Mormon position because it is the most convenient straw man.

Warren Parrish on the Translation Process

The only eyewitness to the translation process to describe it was Joseph Smith’s scribe Warren Parrish, who, after he left the Church, claimed, quote, “I have set by his side and penned down the translation of the Egyptian hieroglyphics as he claimed to receive it by direct inspiration of Heaven.”

The majority of Church members are probably comfortable leaving the discussion of the translation of the Book of Abraham at that, and on this occasion I will leave it at that too, except to say that so far no theory about the translation of the papyri accounts for all the evidence.

The Saga of the Joseph Smith Papyri

Today, however, I would like to take a look at the papyri themselves and some of the puzzles surrounding them, namely: What papyri did Joseph Smith have, and what do we know about the ancient owners of the papyri?

And we may not be able to cover all of this here, and certainly can’t cover all of the possible topics on either the papyri or the Book of Abraham. I’m not even going to try.

Now, the saga of the Joseph Smith Papyri begins in the early part of the 19th century, during the pillaging of Egypt that at that time passed for archaeology.

One of those involved in the plunder and pillage of Egypt was Antonio Lebolo. He exhumed one of the most spectacular caches of mummies and papyri from Thebes that Egyptology has ever known. I used to think that the accounts of several hundred mummies were vastly exaggerated. I am no longer so sure.

Lebolo was acting as an agent procuring antiquities for Drovetti, but kept a few for himself. These were sent via Albano Oblasser to America, paraded around the country, and sold off piecemeal until the remainder were sold by Michael Chandler to the Church in July of 1835.

The Church got four mummies and at least five papyri.

From Joseph Smith to the Metropolitan Museum

After Joseph Smith’s mother’s death in 1856, the papyri were sold to Abel Combs, who sold part of the collection to a museum in St. Louis, which eventually moved to Chicago and burned to the ground in the Chicago Fire of 1871. And he kept part of the collection for himself.

Combs’s collection passed through various hands until it was acquired by the Metropolitan Museum of Art in 1947.

The Metropolitan Museum of Art knew that they had acquired, quote, “Papyrus fragments of hieratic Books of the Dead, once the property of the Mormon leader Joseph Smith.”

The Metropolitan Museum was fully aware of what the papyri were when they first saw them in 1918, and they knew what they were doing when they acquired them.

Rediscovery of the Papyri

Klaus Baer recalled, “I saw photographs of them for the first time in 1963, I believe, and was asked at that time, on my honor, not to tell anyone where they were and to keep the whole thing confidential.”

The guard had changed at the museum, and the new curators were not as keen to have the papyri as the previous curators had been.

Henry Fischer, curator of the Department of Egyptian Art at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in the late 1960s, explained how the museum decided to deal with their religious hot potato:

“We knew, since Atiya worked in Salt Lake City and was acquainted with leaders of the Mormon Church, that he might very tactfully find out how they felt about it. So we simply informed him about this in confidence, and I think he handled the matter very nicely.”

The newspapers garbled the story by wrongly making Atiya the discoverer of the documents, which disturbed Fischer. He wrote to Atiya as follows:

“Although I was already aware that your version of the discovery of these documents had caused considerable confusion, it was startling to read that you had informed me of their existence. While I have taken pains to avoid any outright contradictions of what you said, I do not see why either I or the other members of my department, past and present, should be put in the position of being ignorant about facts we could not fail to have known.”

What Survives Today

The Metropolitan Museum of Art gave the papyri back to the Church in 1967, 40 years ago this November.

The papyri have now remained in one set of hands for the longest time since their excavation.

The papyri we currently have are 11 groups of fragments from three different papyri, containing two partial copies of what is usually misnamed the Book of the Dead, and part of a copy of what is usually misnamed the Document of Breathings Made by Isis.

The extant fragments do not contain any text from the Book of Abraham.

We know what we currently have, but how much papyri did Joseph Smith have?

How Much Papyri Did Joseph Smith Have?

Critics want to minimize the amount of papyri originally owned by Joseph Smith, preferably to an amount not much more than what we currently have, because they do not want a Book of Abraham to have ever existed.

As Richard Bushman has noted, people who have broken away from Mormonism have to justify their decision to leave. They cannot countenance evidence of divine inspiration in Joseph Smith’s teaching without catching themselves in a disastrous error.

So critics who have left the Church cannot allow Joseph Smith to have gotten anything right, even by a guess or by accident. They will go to extreme lengths and propound convoluted theories to have something else, anything else, to believe in.

Dale Morgan on Joseph Smith

The critic Dale Morgan, in a moment of candor, wrote:

“With my point of view on God, I am incapable of accepting the claims of Joseph Smith and the Mormons, be they however so convincing. If God does not exist, how can Joseph Smith’s story have any possible validity? I will look everywhere for explanation except to the one explanation that is the position of the Church.”

So the critics cannot allow themselves to say, as Latter-day Saints can say, whether or not there was a Book of Abraham actually contained on the proportion of papyri that did not survive is something that cannot be determined by scholarly means.

Faith and Unanswered Questions

A Latter-day Saint who has faith—that is, trust in God—can examine such issues without being bothered or without having to know all the answers to all the questions we might have.

In fact, insisting on the answers to all our little questions is a sign of lack of faith or trust.

For example, if we insist that our spouse or employees must account for every moment out of our presence, it is a sign that we do not have faith or trust in them.

Faith, Study, and the Book of Abraham

Abraham, for example, was able to say, “Thy servant has sought thee earnestly. Now I have found thee. Thou didst send thine angel to deliver me from the gods of Elkenah, and I will do well to hearken unto thy voice.”

He trusted God on the basis of one past experience without having to know all the details about how the Lord was going to fulfill his promises.

Likewise, a Latter-day Saint who trusts God and his prophets—that is, spokesmen—does not need to see the actual Egyptian characters on the papyrus or know any of the details about the translation of the Book of Abraham in order to accept it and act with confidence that this life is a time of testing, when God will “prove us herewith, to see if we will do all things whatsoever the Lord our God shall command us.”

This is the reason why, for the vast majority of Latter-day Saints, the particulars of the translation of the Book of Mormon are not an issue.

Still, as all have not faith, and most of you are here either for a want of faith or a desire to help those who want faith, we are commanded to “seek learning, even by study and also by faith.”

Learning is a partial substitute for and an aid to faith.

What Papyri Did Joseph Smith Have?

So what do we know about the papyri Joseph Smith had?

Between the current fragments and some very bad copies of characters from the papyri, we know that Joseph Smith had papyri or portions of papyri from at least five individuals: Horos, the son of Osoroeris; and [unintelligible]; [unintelligible], the son of [unintelligible]; a woman with the unique name of Neferirnub; and a man named Sesonchis.

Comparing the copies of the papyri with the fragments indicates that in no case do we have a complete record of what Joseph Smith had from these two sources alone.

Eyewitnesses from the Nauvoo period describe a quantity of records written on papyrus and Egyptian hieroglyphs, including: one, some papyri preserved under glass, described as “a number of glazed slides, like picture frames, containing sheets of papyrus with Egyptian inscriptions and hieroglyphics”; two, a long roll of manuscript that contained the Book of Abraham; three, another roll; four, and two or three other small pieces of papyrus with astronomical calculations, epitaphs, etc.

Only the mounted fragments ended up in the Metropolitan Museum of Art and were subsequently given back to The Church of Jesus Christ.

Eyewitness Descriptions of the Papyri

The eyewitnesses not only describe the papyri, but they describe specific vignettes, or pictures, on the papyri.

When eyewitnesses describe the vignettes as being on the papyri mounted under glass, they can be matched with fragments from the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

On the other hand, when the vignettes are described as being on the rolls, the descriptions do not match any of the currently surviving fragments.

Gustav Seyffarth’s 1856 catalog of the Wood Museum in St. Louis indicates that some of the Joseph Smith Papyri were there. Those papyri moved with the Wood Museum to Chicago and were burned in the Chicago Fire of 1871.

Whatever we conjecture their contents to be is only that: conjecture.

Both Mormon and non-Mormon eyewitnesses from the 19th century agree that it was a, quote, “long roll of papyrus” from which our Prophet translated the Book of Abraham, meaning the long roll of manuscript and not one of the mounted fragments that eventually ended up in the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

So the intellectual position that some members follow, and which the critics would have us adopt as the position of the Church, is not in accord with the historical evidence.

How Big Were the Rolls?

So how big were the rolls?

One way to answer that question is to take the standard size for a papyrus roll and just use that. In the Ptolemaic period, a roll was usually about 320 centimeters long and about 32 centimeters high.

I have used such estimates before, but those figures are not entirely satisfactory. As Mark Depauw has pointed out in a later study, the measurements of papyri vary throughout the Ptolemaic period, with different standards applying at different times.

Now, one can take a more scientific—that is, mathematical—approach, because the circumference of a scroll limits the amount of scroll that can be contained inside it.

Thus, we can determine by the size of the circumference and the tightness of the winding how much papyrus can be missing at the interior end of a papyrus roll.

Calculating the Missing Portion of a Scroll

Friedhelm Hoffmann has already developed such a formula in calculating the amount of material missing from the end of Papyrus Spiegelberg, from which he was able to determine that there were five columns missing from the text.

Now, I won’t bore you with the derivation of the formula. It’s up there. It’s been in print for over a decade.

But it boils down to this: if S is the average difference between the winding measurement, and E is the last length—the length of the last, that is, the interior winding—then the theoretical length of the missing portion is Z, so that Z is approximately E squared minus 6.25 over 2S minus E.

We can apply this to the Joseph Smith Papyri and can obtain some usable results.

The Scroll of Neferirnub

For the scroll of Neferirnub, the final winding length is 7.8 centimeters, and the difference is .33 centimeters. The formula says that there is 64 centimeters missing, which is just over two feet.

Thus, this vignette was at the very end of the roll it was on.

Unfortunately, there’s no way of knowing how much is missing off the beginning of the scroll.

The Scroll of Sesonchis

For the Sesonchis scroll, the final winding length is 14 centimeters, and the difference is .25 centimeters.

Thus, there were 365.5 centimeters left on the scroll, and this is the equivalent of 143.5 inches, or nearly 12 feet.

The vignette on Joseph Smith Papyrus II, shown here, is the furthest vignette into the Sesonchis scroll and normally occurs about halfway through the Book of the Dead, which means that the total scroll would be about 20 to 24 feet long.

And this is longer than some scrolls, but shorter than others.

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The Scroll of Horus

For the scroll of Horus, the initial winding length is 9.7 centimeters, the last winding is 9.5 centimeters, and there are seven windings in total. This leaves us with an average value of .0333 for S. E is, as already stated, 9.5 centimeters.

Plugging this into the equation gives 1,250.5 centimeters of missing papyrus. This is the equivalent of 492 inches, or 41 feet of missing papyrus.

Would such a thing be unusual?

Papyrus Turin 1791 is 57 feet 3 inches long. That’s a 1,745-centimeter papyrus. Papyrus Nesmin is 1,280 centimeters long, and the ritual roll of Imuthes in the Metropolitan Museum of Art is 1,088 centimeters long, or 35 feet 8 inches long, while his Book of the Dead is longer still.

So such a length is not out of the question.

Could the Scroll Have Contained Additional Text?

While we know that the scroll of Horus has a Document of Breathings Made by Isis, about one in four of those documents contain additional texts. So the presence of additional text would not be unusual.

Now, the size of Horus’s scroll at first seems excessive, even though it is not unheard of. When I first plugged in the numbers a few years ago and got the result, I checked the measurements and then checked them again. Then I checked the formula again. Then I rechecked the formula’s derivation. Then I rechecked the assumptions behind the formula. Then I simply dismissed them and went back to the standard scroll length.

I had always assumed that the Sesonchis scroll would be the longer one, since the Book of the Dead is a much longer composition than the Document of Breathings Made by Isis, and my initial estimates of the length of the Sesonchis scroll, based on the length of text preserved and the percentage of the Book of the Dead preserved, had been almost 20 feet.

It was only after plugging in the numbers from the other Joseph Smith Papyri into the formula that I realized that the formula does give reasonable results.

The Nineteenth-Century Eyewitnesses

I have since realized that having a long roll of Horus brings all the 19th-century eyewitnesses into agreement.

If we look at the 19th-century eyewitnesses and ask the question, Which of the five known rolls that Joseph Smith had do the eyewitnesses identify as the source of the Book of Abraham? we come up with some useful information.

Charlotte Haven and Jerusha Blanchard identify the long roll as being the source of the Book of Abraham. On the other hand, William Appleby identifies the Book of Abraham as being written by the poor scribe, which matches the Horus roll.

Only if the Horus roll is longer than the Sesonchis roll do the 19th-century eyewitnesses agree. And for that to be the case, the unmounted portion of the Horus roll has to be longer than the 12 feet left on the Sesonchis roll.

Now, one could take an average of S for only the last four windings on the Horus, in which you get .05 centimeters, and still come up with a value for Z of 830.5 centimeters, or 27 feet 3 inches, for Horus’s roll. And it would still be longer than Sesonchis and well within the range of comparable Ptolemaic rolls.

Gustav Seyffarth and Facsimile 3

Furthermore, a lengthy Horus roll accommodates the otherwise problematic testimony of Gustav Seyffarth.

Seyffarth describes Facsimile 3, which is on the roll of Horus, and claims that a portion of the text he saw was an invocation to Osiris.

If all there was on the Horus roll was the Document of Breathings Made by Isis, then the problem is that there is no invocation to Osiris in the portion of text that Seyffarth would have seen, or anywhere in the document, for that matter.

With a longer roll, Seyffarth’s testimony can be accounted for, as there would certainly be room for an invocation to Osiris on the roll, if Seyffarth is even accurate in his interpretation, and who knows what else would be on the roll.

Who Was Horus?

Now, although scholarship is unable to tell us whether or not there was a Book of Abraham on the roll of Horus, perhaps we can tell something about the individual who owned the papyrus and the likelihood that the Book of Abraham might have interested him.

To do so requires moving from the size of the Joseph Smith Papyri to their message.

The puzzle that is before us is to determine what we can know about Horus.

The beginning of the roll of Horus lists Horus’s names, titles, and parents. Horus bore three titles, as in the first line, which are high-ranking positions that he held at some time in his life, perhaps concurrently, perhaps sequentially.

These titles are Prophet of Amonrasonther, Prophet of Min Who Massacres His Enemies, and Prophet of Chespis.

The last two titles are rare, the second one being extremely rare. Only four men are known to have borne it.

Dating Horus and His Family

Horus’s names and titles allow him to be linked with a number of other documents, such as a statue of his father, now in the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore.

These documents yield a family tree covering eight generations, from Horus’s grandfather to his great-great-great-grandsons.

Thanks to a graffito from the Small Temple of Medinet Habu, shown here, we can date the family.

Horus’s third great-grandson is alive in 37 B.C. under the reign of Cleopatra VII, and he mentions there his—Horus’s son died before 157 or 153 B.C., and two of his grandsons died between 146 and 124 B.C.

This would place Horus roughly contemporary with Ptolemy V, which means that this roll from the Joseph Smith Papyri was contemporary with the Rosetta Stone.

Horus probably lived through the revolt of Haronnophris and Chaonnophris, and the priests of Amonrasonther seem to have some special connection with the revolt.

Horus was also probably well acquainted with all three of the languages of the Rosetta Stone. Two of them, hieroglyphs and Demotic, he probably knew better than any Egyptologist alive.

Horus’s Connections to the Temples at Karnak

Horus’s titles link him directly with three of the temples at Karnak.

Prophet of Amonrasonther links him as prophet with the main temple at Karnak. This one—well, not that one. I’ll show it later. But that’s Karnak.

Prophet of Min Who Massacres His Enemies links him with the Min temple north of the main temple, and Prophet of Chespis links him with the small temple of Chespis southwest of the main temple.

Let’s look at these titles in order.

Prophet of Amonrasonther

The first title is the Prophet of Amonrasonther, which means that he’s employed in the Great Temple of Karnak. We know a considerable amount about this temple, the largest surviving one in Egypt.

As prophet, he would have been initiated in the Festival Hall shown here, and he would have had—we have two of the Karnak Temple’s daily rituals preserved. In the first of them, shown here, at least the beginning shown here, the prophet lights a lamp and an incense burner and chants his way into the Holy of Holies through the hypostyle hall.

Holy of Holies, which is now largely destroyed back here. There he sees God and worships him face to face.

The other daily ritual is the execration ritual, where a wax figure of an enemy, on which the enemy’s name is written in fresh ink, was spat upon, trampled under the left foot, smitten with a spear, bound, and placed on the fire.

Any priest or prophet at Karnak would have been intimately acquainted with both of these rituals.

The Temple Library

The temple also had a library, which would have had king lists, annals, prophecies and chronicles, compendia of each nome, medical texts, wisdom and ethical teachings, books of lucky days, dream interpretation manuals, astrological and astronomical texts, lexical texts, geographies, festival books, ritual books, glorification texts, hymns, cult prescriptions, construction manuals, manuals of painting and relief, manuals of purification, offering manuals, calendars of feasts, manuals of cultic receipts, inventories, property lists, instructions, oracle texts, priestly correspondence, temple daybooks, and accounts.

It is from the library in Thebes that the earlier Greek writer Hecataeus wrote an account of Abraham.

Min Who Massacres His Enemies

Horus was also Prophet of Min Who Massacres His Enemies.

The term for “massacre,” “slay,” is also the verb used of slaughtering and sacrificing animals and can be used as a term for the sacrificial offering.

The texts specify that this is done by the knife held in the right hand and the foe in the left, or with a harpoon. The sacrifice is dismembered, and portions of him are put into the brazier as offerings.

The term for enemy, kheru, can also mean sacrificial victim.

The only place where representations of the rituals associated with Min Who Massacres His Enemies appear is on the interior portions of the Bab el-Abd, the gate of the enclosure wall of the Min temple north of the Great Temple of Amon at Karnak.

The gate was built by Ptolemy III Euergetes, the contemporary of Horus’s grandfather, Harsiesis, who was the first prophet of this deity, and the decoration was finished by Ptolemy’s son, Ptolemy IV Philopator.

Subduing Sinners and Burning Enemies

Unlike most of the deities featured on the gateway, Min Who Massacres His Enemies did not have his own temple in the Min complex because his rituals were performed in the courtyard of the Min temple.

Two rituals are associated with him. One of them is labeled “Subduing Sinners,” and the other is “The Burning of Enemies.” Both scenes come from the execration ritual, such as I described from Karnak.

The first scene identifies Min Who Massacres His Enemies with Reshep, a foreign deity imported into Egypt much earlier, and like many non-Egyptian deities imported into Egypt, he is given a different Egyptian name.

The second scene says that he, quote, “smites his enemies in the temple of burning,” and then burns them on the altar of burnt offerings. The gods also “overthrow your enemies in the slaughterhouse,” and they “sacrifice the enemy on your altar.”

The Altar of Burnt Offerings

The term for this altar, which is shown here on the bottom of the slide, of burnt offerings, akh, is described in a number of contemporary texts.

Papyrus Ankhsheshonq tells the story of a rebellion against Pharaoh led by Harsiesis, Pharaoh’s chief physician. The plot is unsuccessful, and the conspirators are rounded up.

Pharaoh “caused an altar of earth to be built at the gate of Pharaoh’s palace. He caused Harsiesis, son of Ramose, to be placed on the altar akh of copper with all the men whom he had and all the men who were in the plot against Pharaoh.”

Papyrus Vandier tells a story of a group of priests who are jealous of Merire and have him put to death so that the Pharaoh can live longer and Pharaoh can marry Merire’s wife.

But Merire appears to Pharaoh in a vision and reproves him. As a consequence, Pharaoh, quote, “caused all the priests to be brought outside the prison. Pharaoh went with them to Heliopolis. He caused them to be killed. He caused them to be placed on the altar before Mut, who carries her brother in Heliopolis.”

Accounts of Enemies Placed on an Altar

In Papyrus Rylands 9, the cry goes forth against one set of enemies, quote, “Let our lord bring these young men who have abandoned our ways, and let them be placed on an altar, akh.”

Papyrus P. Saqqara 2, published just last year, begins with the following fragmentary text, quote, “Necho caused to be set up an altar [broken] you yourself, they would have placed on the altar,” and then unfortunately breaks off again.

Thus, stories about slaughtering and then burning people on an altar were common in the time of the Joseph Smith Papyri, and Horus, the owner of Papyrus Joseph Smith I, had a professional interest in such things.

The Temple of Chespisichis

The Temple of Chespisichis is first mentioned by Lepsius, where it is listed as Temple V. Lepsius is a very early Egyptologist, 1840s.

By 1885, when Wiedemann visited the site, he found it, quote, “almost entirely in ruins.” The temple walls had been disassembled and used to fence a garden, and the inscriptions, quote, “almost entirely destroyed.”

But he found some probably reused blocks of the 18th Dynasty king Thutmose III, as well as fragments of 29th Dynasty king Nepherites I, as well as Ptolemaic materials, and some fragments he thought belonged to the 26th Dynasty king Psammetichus.

Later work indicates that the cult of Chespisichis seems only to have existed since the 19th Dynasty, about the time of Moses, where he is particularly known as a healer.

He is said to be one who, quote, “publishes the book of death and life.”

He is a savior god who rescues from all manner of sickness, death, and catastrophe.

Chespisichis at Tod and Karnak

Two other places depict him: the Temple of Tod, located a few miles south of Thebes, and on the Ptolemaic gateway of the main Khonsu Temple at Karnak.

There he is at Tod, and there’s his images at the Khonsu Temple in Karnak.

At the Tod Temple, the inscription refers to “subduing the weaklings,” a betu, a derogatory term for foreigners, and depicts, under the name of Chespisichis, a jackal-headed figure wielding knives.

The only inscription that really remains of the Temple of Chespisichis is a single stela now in the Louvre, more commonly known as the Bentresh Stela.

The Bentresh Stela

Stylistically, the Bentresh Stela most closely matches the Ptolemaic style of Ptolemy IV, although Ptolemy III has also been argued.

Lanny Bell reported the discovery of another copy of this text back in 1979, but he never published it.

The Bentresh Stela tells the story of an otherwise unattested king named Ramesses, whose names are a mixture of those of Ramesses II, IV, and one of the Thutmoses, who made his annual trip to Mesopotamia to collect tribute.

He marries a princess of Bakhtan, perhaps a corruption of the Egyptian word for Hittite, rather than a reference to Bactria, modern Afghanistan.

When the princess’s sister, Bentresh, gets sick, first a priest is sent, then the god Chespisichis to heal her of her illness. She had been possessed by an angel.

Finally, after many years, Chespisichis appears to the ruler of Bakhtan in a dream and requests that he be sent back to Egypt, and much tribute comes with him.

As Prophet of Chespisichis, we can be fairly confident that Horus would have read this text at some point in his life.

The god appearing in visions and dreams, Egyptian presence in Syria and Mesopotamia, angels interfering in human affairs, sicknesses caused by spiritual beings, and a savior—all of these are elements shared between the world of Horus and the Book of Abraham.

Facsimile 1

Next on the roll of Horus is a vignette which we know as Facsimile 1.

The facsimiles from the Book of Abraham interest people as three illustrations floating like islands in the sea of thousands of pages of words in our scripture.

Despite the interest in the facsimiles, there is no emphasis put on them in the Church or the current curriculum material.

Facsimile 1 is mentioned only once, in an optional enrichment activity in a lesson for 8- through 11-year-olds. Facsimile 2 has been mentioned only once in general conference in the last 65 years.

I cannot help but wonder if the critics attack the facsimiles because they are relatively insignificant in the Church.

Challenges in Interpreting Egyptian Vignettes

The facsimiles, like all vignettes, present a number of challenges, and it is worth remembering a few things about the placement of vignettes, the drawing of vignettes, and the identifications of figures on vignettes.

With regard to the placement of vignettes, I will read a number of quotes from Egyptologists about Late Period documents in general and Ptolemaic texts in particular.

The list is lengthy because it is a common thing, but everyone seems to want to treat the Joseph Smith Papyri as a special exception to a general rule, and I do not think we should do so.

From Malcolm Mosher, who specializes in Late Period religious texts, quote:

“In documents from the 21st Dynasty on, misalignment of the text and vignette of a spell can occur, with the text preceding the vignette or vice versa. While this type of problem can be observed sporadically from the late New Kingdom on, it is more common in the Late Period.

“The problem is particularly acute when more spells are textually represented for such a group than there are vignettes. It can be difficult to determine which spells have a vignette and which do not.

“A similar problem of misalignment frequently encountered in late documents is where the vignette for a particular spell is [with] the wrong text, and the correct text is not found in the document.”

Difficulties in Vignette Research

From Henk Milde, probably the foremost authority on papyrus vignettes, quote:

“Unfortunately, the connection between text and pictures is not always clear-cut. One has to take into account at least the following difficulties in vignette research that are here placed in eight categories:

“One, spatial discrepancy between text and vignette.” That means that the vignettes and the texts are far apart.

“Two, incorrect combination of text and vignette in the original.

“Three, incorrect combination of text and vignette in studies and editions of the Book of the Dead.

“Four, unclear relation between the text and vignette.

“Five, transfer or omission of pictorial elements.

“Six, inundation of the picture.

“Seven, combination and contamination of pictorial elements of different vignettes.

“And eight, conglomeration of texts under a vignette.”

Text and Vignette Do Not Always Correspond

From Marc Étienne of the Louvre, the vignettes, quote, “often do not have but a very distant connection with the discussion written beneath.”

From Jean-Claude Goyon, who has published so many Late Period papyri, quote, “The vignettes do not always correspond to the chapters which the text prescribes.”

This is particularly the case in Documents of Breathings Made by Isis, as discussed by Mark Coenen, probably the foremost expert on these texts, quote:

“The relation between the text and the vignettes in the text is not straightforward. The vignettes are not meant to illustrate the contents of the composition.”

In other words, the vignettes in the Document of Breathings Made by Isis usually do not match the text and may not even belong to it.

This would explain why, quote, “the vignette of Papyrus Joseph Smith I represents new themes and contains a variety of unique features.”

The Unique Vignette of Papyrus Joseph Smith I

The vignette in Papyrus Joseph Smith I is, in fact, unique.

After looking at vignettes in thousands of documents from the Saite Period on, I have not found any exact match or anything really very close.

Furthermore, in vignettes from the Ptolemaic Period, quote, “the genders of the various figures are often incorrect. The genders of priests and deities are occasionally confused.”

And we have a nice example on this papyrus, where, as you can see, successive vignettes depict the owner as both male in the top and female in the bottom.

The Perils of Identifying Iconography

Finally, I wish to mention something about the perils of identifying iconography in the vignettes.

The bulk of iconographic study in Egyptology is based on New Kingdom material, and there is a danger in applying such iconographic experience to Ptolemaic materials from a millennium later.

For instance, in the New Kingdom, a jackal-headed figure might be Anubis, but in the Ptolemaic period, jackal-headed figures might be Osiris or Chespisichis or Isdes or Duamutef, while Anubis might have a human or a lion head.

The Dendera Temple Roof Chapels

Egyptologists and many others point to parallels on the roof chapels of the Dendera Temple as parallels for Facsimile 1.

There are over 40 lion couch scenes in these chapels. Eleven are depicted in this wall just right here.

What the critics do not do, however, is read the inscriptions in the Dendera texts.

The word for the lion couch, nmỉt, is either homophonous or identical with the word nmt, abattoir, slaughterhouse, as well as a term for offerings. This is picked up in the inscriptions.

Let’s take the center one here. In the central scene of the innermost eastern chapel, we read, quote:

“He will not exist, nor will his name exist, since you will destroy his town, cast down the walls of his house, and everyone who is in it will be set on fire. You will demolish his district. You will stab his confederates, his flesh being ashes, the evil conspirator consigned to the lion couch so that he will no longer exist.”

In this one, Bastet, who is not pictured, quote, “is your protection every day. She has commanded her messengers to slaughter your enemies.”

Symmetrical with this scene, we have another scene with a broken inscription that mentions ashes and continues, quote, “to burn his flesh with fire.”

So here we have both a scene and descriptions that parallel the Book of Abraham.

Anubis and the Four Sons of Horus

Furthermore, in the same chapels we have depictions of Anubis and the four sons of Horus, who are presumably the figures under the lion couch in Facsimile 1.

They’re all holding knives.

Anubis here is identified as the one, quote, “who smites the adversaries with his might, since the knife is in his hand to expel the one who treads in transgression. I am the violent one who came forth from God after having cut off the heads of the confederates of him whose name is evil.”

The human-headed son of Horus is identified above his head as, quote, “the one who repulses enemies and who comes tearing out the enemies, who butchers the sinners.”

The baboon-headed son of Horus says, “I have slaughtered those who create injuries in the house of God in his presence. I have taken away the breath from his nostrils.”

The jackal-headed son of Horus says, quote, “I caused the hostile foreigners to retreat.”

And finally, the falcon-headed son of Horus says, “I have removed rebellion.”

Sacrifice and Lion Couch Scenes

So the inscriptions from Dendera associate the lion couch scene with the sacrificial slaughter of enemies.

Nor are they the only depictions of lion couch scenes to do so.

This one, for example, contains instructions that it is, quote, “to stab or cut your disobedient ones, to sacrifice your apostates, to overthrow your enemies every day. May your flames shoot out against your enemies each and every day, so that you remain while your adversaries are overthrown.”

This frequently occurring lion couch scene contains the description, “The lords of truth cause the sacrifice of the evildoers.”

This is interpreted as being either Shesmu, a knife-wielding jackal-headed deity, or Sobek, who is in his water, crocodile deity.

Imsety, Duamutef, and Qebehsenuef, the sons of Horus, are described as forming, quote, “the council behind Osiris, who cause the sacrifice of the evildoers by placing knives into the evildoers and incinerating the souls of the evildoers.”

They are said to be put in place by Anubis.

Excluding a sacrificial dimension to lion couch scenes is un-Egyptian, even if we cannot come up with one definitive reading at this time.

The Document of Breathings Made by Isis

Now, the next thing that we know for certain was on the roll of Horus is the misnamed Document of Breathings Made by Isis.

As I’m down to four minutes, um, and we’ll just have to skip over the Document of Breathings and Facsimile 3.

What Can Scholarship Prove?

Now, um, have we proven anything here?

No.

You cannot prove that the Joseph Smith Papyri contained the Book of Abraham, and you cannot prove that they do not.

And since, for the most part, Latter-day Saints and Egyptologists agree that the preserved portions of the Joseph Smith Papyri do not contain the Book of Abraham, there is the possibility of détente between the two.

As scholarship cannot tell what was or what was not on the missing papyri, Egyptologists could stick to what is knowable from the remains, and Latter-day Saints could trust God about the origins of the Book of Abraham.

Faith and Things Unseen

Our trust, or faith, in God becomes, for those fortunate enough to possess it, the basis of what we hope for, the evidence of things unseen.

Those who have it require no other proof.

Those who have chosen not to trust God will not be persuaded though one rose from the dead.

If we had the papyrus from which the Book of Abraham was translated—and I testify that we do not—the critics would not believe it, and most of them could not read it anyway.

The Irony of the Joseph Smith Papyri

One of the ironies of the Joseph Smith Papyri is that the Egyptologists who are quick to point out what the papyri are not are otherwise uninterested in what they contain.

They could be a laundry list, a get-well card, or the greatest piece of literature ever written. It does not matter, so long as they were not the Book of Abraham, so long as they are not scripture, so long as they do not contain the words of God, so long as they are not conveyed by a prophet of God.

Here, though, is another great irony.

The Rosetta Stone ends with a passage that directs that it be written, quote, “on a stone stela in the writings of words of gods”—that is, hieroglyphs—“the writing of letters”—that is, Demotic—“and the script of the foreigners”—that is, Greek.

For the Egyptians, hieroglyphs are literally the words of God.

The Words of God

The Joseph Smith Papyri contain the words of God conveyed by a prophet of God, just as, for the Latter-day Saints, the Book of Abraham contains the words of God conveyed by a prophet of God.

Watching the efforts to criticize the Book of Abraham, one is impressed with both the secularist and the sectarian search for a savior.

Secularists are not interested in being saved, for example, from their 32 percent illegitimacy rate, their higher-than-average failure rate in school, their double-average smoking—both tobacco and marijuana—and alcoholic drinking rates, their double national average of pornography.

Sectarians are not interested in being saved, for example, from their 50 percent higher-than-average divorce rates, their 88 percent promiscuity rates, their rapid increase in cohabitation, their involvement in pornography, or their double-average racism.

No, both these groups are looking for a savior to save them from the Mormons.

Some of the proposed saviors loudly proclaim, “Here am I, send me, and surely I will do it. Wherefore, give me thine honor.”

Knowing something of these proposed saviors, I cannot say that I have much faith in them.

The truth is, we all need a Savior, if for no other reason than to save us from ourselves. But that Savior is Jesus Christ.

In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Questions and Answers

Let’s see.

Do Any Non-Mormon Egyptologists Give Credence to the Book of Abraham as Ancient History?

Okay. Do you know of many non-Mormon Egyptologists who give credence to the Book of Abraham as ancient history?

Who will do so publicly? No.

Who will do so privately? It depends on who asks them.

Are You Bothered by the Contempt of Church Antagonists?

Are you bothered or puzzled by the strident contempt towards you by many Church antagonists?

Well, if they call the Master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call his servants?

It goes with the territory.

The “Abraham Upon” Inscription

Can you address the source of the inscription “Abraham upon”? Where did this papyrus come from, date, etc.?

Well, yeah, it’s a broken inscription. We only have half the line of the papyrus.

It’s Papyrus Leiden I 384. It comes from Thebes. It’s paleographically dated to the third or fourth century. I’m not sure I trust paleographic dates from that time.

But, I mean, it’s been published several times. I’ve even published a couple of notes on it myself and discussed the provenance.

It comes from the same town as the Joseph Smith Papyri. It comes from a priestly milieu like the Joseph Smith Papyri.

And there are all kinds of other interesting things we could say about it, but I guess we’ll get to some of the other—

Oh, this is the same question in more detail.

Why Were the Facsimiles Included?

Why were the facsimiles included in the current text of the Book of Abraham?

I don’t know. I’m not a very good mind reader.

What connection do they have to the text?

Well, Facsimile 2 and Facsimile 3 have no connection to the text.

Facsimile 1 has a very interesting connection to the text, and it’s worth reading it carefully and reading Abraham chapter 1.

The interesting thing is, only in Facsimile 1 do we have a clue of what’s going on in the facsimiles.

But even the facsimile itself and the explanations don’t tell you important things that are contained in the text.

For instance, if you just read the text, you wouldn’t know that the angel kills the Egyptian priest. Nothing in the picture depicts that.

And the facsimiles also contain other elements that don’t show up in the text.

And exactly what significance those have, we can debate till the cows come home, because we have no evidence.

How Well Do We Understand the Facsimiles?

So, for the most part, the facsimiles don’t connect with the text. And if they did, we might have a better chance of knowing what’s going on with them.

You take Facsimile 2, for example. Ask around all your Mormon friends and see if anyone has any clue what’s going on in that facsimile, and no one does.

And if you go read through the Egyptological literature, you’ll find that no one knows what’s going on from an ancient Egyptian point of view.

So we want to compare what Joseph Smith said about this facsimile, which we don’t understand, and what the ancient Egyptians said about the facsimile, which we also don’t understand.

And we want to say, are they the same?

Well, how would we know, since we don’t understand either one?

How Accurate Are Joseph Smith’s Explanations?

So it says—this follows straight on that one—Joseph Smith gives explanations for many of the characters in the facsimile. How accurate are his descriptions?

Well, do we know what the ancient Egyptians thought they meant?

It turns out that earlier this week, the latest edition of the FARMS Review came out, and I have a little article in there that addresses this particular issue.

But the main question is, if you want to compare what the ancient Egyptians say and what did Joseph Smith say, you have to figure out what is Joseph Smith saying.

And, for example, Facsimile 2, we don’t know. And for Facsimile 3, we don’t really know.

And then you want to compare what the ancient Egyptians said about them, and we actually don’t know as much as we think we do about that.

And in the meantime, somebody—they—so you want to know, say, is X equal Y, and in the meantime someone introduces Z.

So it’s a bait and switch.

Rather than getting what the ancient Egyptians said about the facsimiles, we get what the modern Egyptologists say about the facsimiles.

I actually have an article in the Egyptological literature that shows that, for the most part, when you look at what the modern Egyptologists say about the facsimiles and what the ancient Egyptians say about them, they don’t match.

So, for the most part, there’s no connection there at all.

So you’re really given bait and switch.

And so, no, the modern Egyptologist descriptions don’t match Joseph Smith’s, but then they don’t match the ancient Egyptians either.

What Would Hugh Nibley Say?

So now this is a really—this is a two-part question. One part is mind reading.

And it says, did you know Hugh Nibley?

Yes, I did.

About as well as anybody who is outside of his family and younger than his youngest child could be expected to know him, which is probably not all that well.

And then he says, and what would he say about this topic?

He’d probably say all kinds of things.

He would probably say them much better than I can, or I did.

He is actually quite eloquent, very insightful, somewhat out of date.

You know, somebody once told me that the true measure of a classic is if your work is still read more than a hundred years after you published it.

In that sense, the Book of Mormon is a classic.

It’s too early to tell if Nibley is a classic, and I probably won’t be one.

I have no delusions about—nobody ever has the last word on this topic. That’s an important thing to remember.

And those of you who are on the message boards get this ad nauseam, even if the last word isn’t worth saying.

So I’m not really going to try to guess what Nibley would say about this topic. He’s published quite a bit about it. You can look at it there, and from his perspective now, he probably knows a whole lot more about it than I do and probably would like to rewrite, revise everything he wrote.

Oops.

All right.

Robert Ritner’s Translation

Okay, so this is one that I missed. It was tucked away on the side.

Oh, I’ve already addressed that one.

It says, I received some anti- material that says that Dr. Robert Ritner trained you, and his translation of the Book of Abraham papyrus contradicts yours. Is this true, and how do you explain this?

Well, actually, it’s hard to say that it contradicts mine because I haven’t published mine yet.

So how would we know?

And let’s see, how do I explain this?

Well, I can explain it because I haven’t published one yet.

So I can see now I’m in the position where I can make a deliberate choice to either follow the line that he has set or deliberately shun it.

Actually, I’ve addressed some of this in an article that’s in press.

There are some places where I don’t know Professor Ritner is relevant. Ought to just leave him alone.

You pity the poor guy. He doesn’t know what he’s gotten himself into.

But, you know, at this point anybody who says that is acting problematically because I haven’t published a translation.

Usually the argument is made that if you look at Klaus Baer and Robert Ritner’s and Hugh Nibley and Michael Rhodes’s translations, they don’t differ that much.

So this is a little bit puzzling.

But be that as it may, thank you all for your attendance.

Have a good lunch.

 

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Tangible Restoration: The Witnesses and What They Experienced – Daniel C. Peterson (2006)

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Question

Were the Book of Mormon witnesses describing physical experiences with the gold plates?

Short Answer

Daniel C. Peterson argues that the historical accounts of the Book of Mormon witnesses describe experiences with strongly tangible elements. The Three Witnesses described seeing the plates in a miraculous setting, while the Eight Witnesses reported physically seeing, handling, turning, and “hefting” the plates.

Key Takeaways
  • The Three Witnesses described seeing the plates in the presence of an angel.

  • Their experience included miraculous light and the voice of God.

  • The Eight Witnesses described a separate, much more ordinary encounter.

  • They said they handled and “hefted” the plates themselves.

  • Peterson argues that the contrasting character of the two experiences strengthens their combined testimony.

Summary

Summary

Daniel C. Peterson examines the testimonies of the Three and Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon, emphasizing the strikingly tangible nature of their accounts. Their differing experiences—one miraculous, the other deliberately ordinary and physical—provide complementary testimony concerning the gold plates.

TL;DR

TL;DR (Too Long; Didn’t Read)

Daniel C. Peterson argues that the Book of Mormon witnesses described experiences that were not merely inward or mystical. The Three Witnesses reported a miraculous encounter involving an angel and divine testimony, while the Eight described seeing, handling, and “hefting” the plates in an ordinary physical setting.

Tangible Restoration: The Witnesses and What They Experienced By Daniel C. Peterson

2006 FAIR Conference

Joseph Smith’s claims regarding the Book of Mormon seem, at least on the surface, to be very detailed and utterly tangible. They are not mystical claims, but, at least in principle, can be tested in the real world of everyday, physical objects.

And critics have not been reluctant to meet the claim head on. “As for the golden plates,” wrote the evangelical Protestant polemicist G.H. Fraser, “we will say simply that there were not any.”

But the historical evidence suggests—no, it shouts—the contrary.

A representative statement is that given by David Whitmer during an 1878 interview with Orson Pratt and Joseph F. Smith:

It was in June, 1829, the latter part of the month . . . Martin Harris was not with us at this time; he obtained a view of [the plates] afterwards (the same day). Joseph, Oliver, and myself were together when I saw them. We not only saw the plates of the Book of Mormon, but also the brass plates [a set of records mentioned early in the Book of Mormon has having been carried by Lehi from Jerusalem to the New World], the plates of the book of Ether, the plates containing the record of the wickedness and secret combinations of the people of the world down to the time of their being engraved, and many other plates. The fact is, it was just as though Joseph, Oliver and I were sitting just here on a log, when we were overshadowed by a light. It was not like the light of the sun nor like that of a fire, but more glorious and beautiful. It extended away round us, I cannot tell how far, but in the midst of this light about as far off as he sits (pointing to John C. Whitmer, sitting a few feet from him), there appeared, as it were, a table with many records or plates upon it, besides the plates of the Book of Mormon, also the sword of Laban, the directors [i.e. the ball with spindles which Lehi had, and the interpreters].

Lucy Mack Smith, who had seen the chosen witnesses leave for their encounter with the angel and the plates, recalled, many years later, the scene that ensued at their return:

When they returned to the house, it was between three and four o’clock P. M. Mrs. Whitmer, Mr. Smith, and myself, were sitting in a bedroom at the time. On coming in, Joseph threw himself down beside me, and exclaimed, “Father, mother, you do not know how happy I am: the Lord has now caused the plates to be shown to three more besides myself. They have seen an angel, who has testified to them, and they will have to bear witness to the truth of what I have said, for now they now for themselves, that I do not go about to deceive the people, and I feel as if I was relieved of a burden which was almost too heavy for me to bear, and it rejoices my soul, that I am not any longer to be entirely alone in the world.” Upon this, Martin Harris came in: he seemed almost overcome with joy, and testified boldly to what he had both seen and heard. And so did David and Oliver, adding, that no tongue could express the joy of their hearts, and the greatness of the things which they had both seen and heard.

Ultimately, each of the Three Witnesses—Martin Harris, Oliver Cowdery, and David Whitmer—signed his name to a statement that has appeared in every edition of the Book of Mormon from the beginning.

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, their brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, than an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvelous in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.

According to David Whitmer, the quite distinct experience of the Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon occurred one or two days after the experience of the Three.

Soon thereafter, all of the Eight signed their names to a statement that has accompanied the testimony of the Three in every printed version of the Book of Mormon.

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come; That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.

It is worth examining the contrasting character of the experiences reported by the Three Witnesses and the Eight, since, I believe, their very difference reinforces them. First of all, the experience of the Three, as they report it, was suffused with the glory and power of God. In a brilliant light, an angel came down and showed them the plates. They heard the voice of God testifying that the translation had been accomplished “by the gift and power of God.” Their written testimony is characterized by a marked religious or spiritual tone. It might be termed a supernatural or miraculous testimony.

By contrast, the experience of the Eight involves no glory, nothing miraculous. It is as mundane as anything can be. No angel shows the plates to them; Joseph Smith does. There is no miraculous light. Unlike the Three, who seem simply to have observed the plates in the hands of the angel, the Eight handled the plates and turned their pages. They “hefted” them. The language of their official account is cool and even formal or legalistic to the point of emotional distance (“the said Smith”). God figures in their testimony only as witness to their concluding oath. His voice does not testify to the correctness of the translation.

The Eight Witnesses are manifestly in full possession of their senses and mental faculties. Theirs might be labeled an ordinary or natural testimony.

Why the differences? In order, I think, for the task of skeptics to be rendered more difficult. One might be tempted to dismiss the testimony of the Three, with its spectacular divine accompaniments, as hallucinatory (however untenable that dismissal would be) or mere superstition. By contrast, there is absolutely nothing in the testimony of the Eight that points to superstition or hallucination. It is the most matter-of-fact kind of experience—nine men in the woods in the early afternoon—except for the object at the center of it.

On the other hand, if one were to approach the Witnesses first by way of the Eight and one were inclined to skepticism, one might be tempted to write their experience off as deception by Joseph Smith or by some other conspirator or group of conspirators. There must really have been plates—fabricated to deceive. But this doesn’t account for the testimony of the Three, which goes beyond fabrication and involves a number of additional objects. In other words, a single explanation seems unable to account for the two very different kinds of experience.

This means that skeptics who wish to explain the two testimonies away must resort to some unlikely combination of sincere hallucination, already unlikely in and of itself, and deliberate, insincere fabrication. Or, as we shall see, they must attempt to collapse the difference between the two.

Let us examine a case that critics often cite as a parallel to Joseph Smith and his Witnesses:

Forgery is the virtually certain explanation for the two sets of inscribed metal plates that James Jesse Strang said he had found in Wisconsin and Michigan (between 1845 and 1849) and translated. Strang, who claimed to have a letter of appointment from Joseph Smith, announced himself as Joseph Smith’s successor and was clearly seeking to imitate the Prophet. That his plates really existed is beyond serious dispute. The first set, the three “Voree” or “Rajah Manchou” plates, were dug up by four “witnesses” whom Strang had brought to the appropriate site. Inscribed on both sides with illustrations and “writing,” the Rajah Manchou plates were roughly 1.5 by 2.75 inches in size—small enough to fit in the palm of a hand or to carry in a pocket. Among the many who saw them was Stephen Post, who reported that they were brass and, indeed, that they resembled the French brass used in familiar kitchen kettles.

“With all the faith & confidence that I could exercise,” he wrote, “all that I could realize was that Strang made the plates himself, or at least that it was possible that he made them.”

One not altogether reliable source reports that most of the four witnesses to the Rajah Manchou plates ultimately repudiated their testimonies.

The eighteen “Plates of Laban,” likewise of brass and each about 7 3/8 by 9 inches, were first mentioned in 1849 and, in 1851, were seen by seven witnesses. Their testimony appeared at the front of The Book of the Law of the Lord, which Strang said he translated from the “Plates of Laban.” (Work on the translation seems to have begun at least as early as April 1849. An 84-page version appeared in 1851; by 1856, it had reached 350 pages.)

The statement of Strang’s witnesses speaks of seeing the plates, but mentions nothing of any miraculous character. Nor did Strang supply any second set of corroborating testimony comparable to that of the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon. One of the witnesses to the “Plates of Laban,” Samuel P. Bacon, eventually denied the inspiration of Strang’s movement and denounced it as mere “human invention.” Another, Samuel Graham, later claimed that he had assisted Strang in the fabrication of the “Plates of Laban.” The well-read Strang had

been an editor and lawyer before his brief affiliation with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and his subsequent career as a schismatic leader.1 Thus, Strang’s plates were much less numerous than those associated with Joseph Smith, his witnesses saw nothing supernatural, his translation required the better part of a decade rather than a little more than two months, and, unlike the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon, Strang’s witnesses did not remain faithful to their testimonies. Milo Quaife, in his early, standard biography of Strang, reflected that

“It is quite conceivable that Strang’s angelic visitations may have had only a subjective existence in the brain of the man who reported them. But the metallic plates possessed a very material objective reality.” If we are unwilling to accept The Book of the Law of the Lord as authentically divine, he says, “we can hardly escape the conclusion . . . that Strang knowingly fabricated and ‘planted’ them for the purpose of duping his credulous followers” and, accordingly, that “Strang’s prophetic career was a false and impudent imposture.”2

Roger Van Noord, Strang’s most recent biographer, concludes that,

“Based on the evidence, it is probable that Strang—or someone under his direction—manufactured the letter of appointment and the brass plates to support his claim to be a prophet and to sell land at Voree. If this scenario is correct, Strang’s advocacy of himself as a prophet was more than suspect, but no psychological delusion.”3

1 See Roger Van Noord, King of Beaver Island: The Life and Assassination of James Jesse Strang (Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1988), 33-35, 97, 102, 163, 219; Doyle C. Fitzpatrick, The King Strang Story: A Vindication of James J. Strang, the Beaver Island Mormon [sic] King (Lansing, MI: National Heritage, 1970), 34-38; Milo M. Quaife, The Kingdom of Saint James: A Narrative of the Mormons [sic] (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1930), 2-8, 16-19, 92-93, 185-189.

2 Quaife, The Kingdom of Saint James, 17-18.

3 Van Noord, King of Beaver Island, 274.

It seems that virtually every reputable writer on the subject now grants the sincerity and honesty of all or most of the Book of Mormon Witnesses. A few critics argue that the printed testimonies don’t really represent what the Witnesses said. “I want Non-LDS to know,” wrote one recent poster on an internet message board,

that regardless of the three witnesses of the Book of Mormon and the eight witnesses of the Book of Mormon—not a single witness ever touched the plates with their own hands and never saw the plates with their own eyes. When Martin Harris and Oliver Cowdrey supposedly had visions of the Book of Mormon for their testimony – only Joseph Smith wrote their testimony down in the Book of Mormon.

But the testimonies of have been published with the Book of Mormon ever since that first edition in 1830, which, since it was prepared under the careful supervision of Oliver Cowdery (one of the Three) and Hyrum Smith (one of the Eight), seems to imply their endorsement of those statements. Consistent with this, a correspondent for the Salem [Massachusetts] Advertiser and Argus reported in 1843 having heard Hyrum “declare, in this city in public, that what is recorded about the plates, &c. &c. is God’s solemn truth.”4 Moreover, there are far too many recorded testimonies from the other Witnesses for

this to be a plausible escape. For example, E. C. Brand visited John Whitmer, one of the Eight, in 1875, and recorded that Whitmer “declared that his testimony, as found in the ‘Testimony of Eight Witnesses,” in the Book of Mormon, is strictly true.”5 In 1876, Whitmer told Mark Forscutt, “I have never heard that any one of the three, or eight witnesses ever denied the testimony that they have borne to the Book as published in the first edition of the Book of Mormon.”6 And, later that same year, referring to the published testimony, he told Heman C. Smith, “That testimony was, is, and will be true, henceforth and forever.” 7 And, finally, in 1877, the year prior to his death, he wrote “concerning my testimony as recorded in the Book of Mormon” that “It is the Same as it was from the beginning, and it is true.” 8

Today’s attack on the Witnesses focuses, instead, on the alleged non-literalness of their experience. Dan Vogel is the principal source for this newly popular way of dismissing their testimony. For example, in his 2002 essay on “The Validity of the Witnesses’ Testimonies,” he attempts to discredit the witnesses by portraying them as alienated from empirical reality and as having merely imagined the plates of the Book of Mormon, or seen them in a subjective hallucination.

I’ve commented elsewhere on how bizarre it is to me that the witnesses, a group of early nineteenth-century farmers who spent their lives rising at sunrise, pulling up stumps, clearing rocks, plowing fields, sowing seeds, carefully nurturing crops, raising livestock, milking cows, digging wells, building cabins, raising barns, harvesting their own food, bartering (in an often cashless economy) for what they could not produce themselves, wearing clothes made from plant fibers and skins, anxiously watching the seasons, and walking or riding animals out under the weather until they retired to their beds shortly after sunset in “a world lit only by fire,” are being portrayed as estranged from everyday empirical reality by people whose lives, like mine, consist to a large extent of staring at computer and television screens in artificially air-conditioned and artificially lit homes and offices, clothed in synthetic fibers, commuting between the two in enclosed and air-conditioned mechanical vehicles while they listen to the radio, chat on their cell phones, and fiddle with their iPods—all of whose inner workings are largely mysterious to them—who buy their prepackaged food (with little or no regard for the time or the season) by means of plastic cards and electronic financial transfers from artificially illuminated and air-conditioned supermarkets enmeshed in international distribution networks of which they know virtually nothing, the rhythms of whose daily lives are largely unaffected by the rising and setting of the sun.

Yet Dan Vogel’s view of the Witnesses has recently been given wider currency in an article published by the non-Mormon biblical scholar Lester Grabbe, who commendably seeks to show that Joseph Smith’s story can illuminate ancient Hebrew prophecy. Unfortunately, Professor Grabbe’s discussion is totally dependent upon Vogel and wholly uninformed by any exposure to the work of the leading authority on the Witnesses, Richard Lloyd Anderson. Grabbe readily grants the sincerity of Martin Harris and David Whitmer, but also declares that “it seems that no one saw the plates uncovered except Smith himself.”9 “Both Martin Harris and David Whitmer of the Three Witnesses,” he writes,

while continuing to affirm their belief in the Book of Mormon, also stated that they had seen the plates “in spirit” or with “spiritual eyes” or in vision. As far as they were concerned, this was no less real than seeing them with ordinary eyes, but to non-Mormons this distinction is likely to be important. 10

Professor Grabbe cites the Rev. John A. Clark’s recollection of an unnamed attorney’s alleged recollection of an alleged statement from Martin Harris:

A gentleman in Palmyra, bred to the law, a professor of religion, and of undoubted veracity told me that on one occasion, he appealed to Harris and asked him directly,–“Did you see those plates?” Harris replied, he did. “Did you see the plates, and the engraving on them with your bodily eyes?” Harris replied, “Yes, I saw them with my eyes,–they were shown unto me by the power of God and not of man.” “But did you see them with your natural,–your bodily eyes, just as you see this pencil-case in my hand? Now say no or yes to this.” Harris replied,–“Why I did not see them as I do that pencil- case, yet I saw them with the eye of faith; I saw them just as distinctly as I see any thing around me,–though at the time they were covered over with a cloth. 11

And yet, Professor Grabbe acknowledges,

The situation with the Eight Witnesses is more complex, and some continue to assert that these members of the Whitmer family and others saw and handled the plates in a purely physical context. Some of the testimony certainly gives this impression, but we have a few later interviews with most of the Eight Witnesses. There is some evidence that their experience was also “spiritual” or “visionary” or whatever one might wish to call it. 12

How did the Witnesses come to “see” the plates? Thomas Ford, the former governor of Illinois, “who,” Grabbe assures us, actually “knew many Mormons,” explains it all by means an account of the experience of the Eight Witnesses. “Unfortunately,” as Grabbe concedes “he does not give his sources and he has some of the names slightly wrong.” 13

He [Joseph Smith] set them to continual prayer, and other spiritual exercises, to acquire this lively faith by means of which the hidden things of God could be spiritually discerned; and, at last, when he could delay them no longer, he assembled them in a room [Lucy Mack Smith says it was a grove near their house], and produced a box, which he said contained the precious treasure. The lid was opened; the witnesses peeped into it, but making no discovery, for the box was empty, they said, “Brother Joseph, we do not see the plates.” The prophet answered them, “O ye of little faith! how long will God bear with this wicked and perverse generation? down on your knees, brethren, every one of you, and pray God for the forgiveness of your sins, and for a holy and living faith which cometh down from heaven.” The disciples dropped to their knees, and began to pray in the fervency of their spirit, supplicating God for more than two hours with fanatical earnestness, at the end of which time, looking again into the box, they were now persuaded that they saw the plates. I leave it to philosophers to determine whether the fumes of an enthusiastic and fanatical imagination are thus capable of blinding the mind and deceiving the senses by so absurd a delusion.14

An even more entertaining version of this theory appeared on an ex-Mormon message board just a few days ago:

I used to tease my kids………………..

I would take my coat or a towel or a blanket and gather it up in the crook of my arm. Then I would stick my face down into it and make a whimpering sound like a puppy. Then I would make a petting motion. My little kids would see what was going on and GUESS what? they wanted to see the puppy! Of course I refused to let them see the puppy because there was not one. Then I would walk into another room and the kids would follow demanding to see the puppy. I would run into another room, the kids would follow, but by then the puppy was gone! I would claim to have hidden the puppy.

The kids would go crazy trying to find the puppy. it was great fun, but as my kids got a little older they finally caught on. The trick no longer worked. When I tried it on their younger cousins my kids would scoff and give away the secret right off to any youngster who would listen!

Why was it a puppy? because A. I said so B. Because I could make the sound of a puppy, C. Kids like puppies. D. A puppy would fit under the cover.

I never claimed to have a rabid grizzly bear or adult crocodle under the wrap for the inverse of all the reasons stated above How convenient that THE Gold plates were “Gold” instead of wood or zinc or stone. How convenient that they were a certain size and that they dissappeared and that only Joe could read them! How convenient for the blood sucking scum that currently runs the Mormon corporation today that so many TBM adults are dumb as preschoolers about certian things . . .

Professor Grabbe cites a passage from Vogel that cites an account of an encounter between Theodore Turley and John Whitmer:

Whitmer asked, “do you hint at me?” [Turley replied], “if the caps fits you, wear it.” all I know, you have published to the world that an angel did present those plates to Joseph Smith.” [Whitmer replied] “I now say I handled those plates. there was fine engravings on both sides. I handled them.” and he described how they were hung, “and they were shown to me by a supernatural power.” he acknowledged all.15

Then he cites Vogel’s introduction to that account, which declares that “it seem [sic] to imply that while Whitmer’s handling of the plaes [sic] (perhaps in a box or through a covering) was physical, his seeing the plates was visionary.” 16

But I am a loss to understand how Whitmer’s alleged statement that the plates were “shown to [him] by a supernatural power” (which, incidentally, is difficult to reconcile with the numerous other accounts from John Whitmer), even if taken at face value, can be translated so easily into the idea that “his seeing of the plates was visionary.”

Grabbe also cites the notorious testimony of the disaffected nineteenth century Mormon Stephen Burnett, which makes an even bigger leap:

I have reflected long and deliberately upon the history of this church & weighed the evidence for & against it—loth to give it up—but when I came to hear Martin Harris state in a public [sic] that he never saw the plates with his natural eyes only in vision or imagination, neither Oliver [Cowdery] nor David [Whitmer] & also that the eight witnesses never saw them & hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but were persuaded to do it, the last pedestal gave way, in my view our foundations was sapped & the entire superstructure fell a heap of ruins.17

Professor Grabbe swallows Dan Vogel’s line without no reservation whatever. “In the end,” he says, “it appears that the only one who saw the plates directly was Joseph Smith himself. Even this situation could be doubted.”18

My wife fears that I have nothing original to say today, and she’s probably right.

Richard Lloyd Anderson, the foremost authority on this subject and the author of, among other things, the classic Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses, has addressed this topic in an important recent article in the FARMS Journal of Book of Mormon Studies entitled, straightforwardly enough, “Attempts to Redefine the Experience of the Eight Witnesses.” But, frankly, originality doesn’t much matter to me on this matter. I wish, at the least, to register a vigorous protest against what seems to me to have become unquestioned but baseless orthodoxy, in certain quarters, about the Witnesses.

They are often portrayed, now, by critics, as gullible fools, unable to distinguish reality from fantasy, easily duped. And Martin Harris is their parade example.

But this falsifies and misrepresents the facts.

True to his reputation as a careful, prudent man, Martin Harris initially approached the claims of Joseph Smith with hope but also with cautious skepticism. It was Harris who took a transcript of characters from the plates to New York City, for the evaluation of Professor Charles Anthon of Columbia University, and others. And, while he was serving as Joseph’s first scribe for the translation, he once surreptitiously substituted a similar-looking stone for the seerstone that the Prophet was using, in order to see if it made any difference. (It did.) At one point, he lifted the box in which the plates were allegedly concealed, to see what he could determine. “I knew from the heft,” he recalled, “that they were lead or gold, and I knew that Joseph had not credit enough to buy so much lead.” He cross-examined “Joseph, his wife, brothers, sisters, his father and mother. I talked with them separately, that I might get the truth of the matter.” One day, he arrived when Joseph was away from home. “I was glad he was absent,” Harris reminisced, “for that gave me an opportunity of talking with his wife and the family about the plates. I talked with them separately, to see if their stories agreed, and I found they did agree.”

Did Martin Harris think his experience as a Witness was real?

The twenty-five-year old Edward Moroni Thurman ran into Martin Harris at a blacksmith shop, and asked him whether the Book of Mormon was true. Harris responded by asking whether the young man could see an apple tree nearby. His vision of the angel, the plates, and the other objects, he told Thurman, had been as real and factual as the sight of the apple tree. When a group of teenagers posed the same question to him, he pointed to a chopping block and asked if they could see it. “Well, just as plain as you see that chopping block, I saw the plates; and sooner than I would deny it I would lay my head upon that chopping block and let you chop it off.”

To William Pilkington, he said,

Just as sure as You see the Sunshining. Just as sure am I that I stood in The presence of an Angel of God, with Joseph Smith and saw him hold the Gold Plates in his Hands. I also saw the Urim and Thummin [sic], The Breastplate and the Sword of Laban I saw the Angel descend from Heaven. The Heavens were then opened and I heard the voice of God declare, that every thing the Angel had told us was True, and that the Book of Mormon was Translated correct. I was commanded by God’s Voice to testify to the whole world what I had seen and heard.

Joseph Homer Snow recalled the time that Martin Harris came to have dinner with his family:

Mother asked him these questions: “Did you actually see an angel and hear him speak?”

He said, “Just as much so as I see you and hear you speak.” “Will you describe how he stood?” Mother asked.

He said, “He stood at least twenty inches off the ground, and he had records in his hand—The Book of Mormon. He turned the leaves and declared that it was the work of the Lord and that it was true. He commanded us to bear that testimony to the world.”

Stephen Burnett plainly misrepresented Martin Harris’s testimony about his own experience: Harris would never have gone along with Burnett’s “only in vision,” let alone with the notion that his experience was merely “imaginary.” So why should we trust Burnett’s account of Harris’s alleged account of the experience of the other Witnesses? After all, Harris’s supposed claim that the other Witnesses were reluctant to endorse their published testimony is, on the basis of evidence to which we’ve already alluded, extremely suspect.

In a notarized statement dated 29 October 1921, George Godfrey, who prepared Martin Harris’s grave in Clarkston, Utah, summarized his lengthy acquaintance with the Witness. Then he offered this interesting statement:

Prior to his death and in his last sickness I sat up nights with him upon many an occasion, in connection with my Brothers, John E. Godfrey and Thomas Godfrey, both of whom now reside at Clarkston, aforesaid, and who can make affidavit to the things I am herein stating: that many times I have heard the said Martin Harris bear witness to the truthfulness and genuineness of the Book of Mormon, at times when he was enjoying good health and spirits and when he was on his deathbed; that his testimony never varied; that I have seen others and that I myself have tried to entrap him relative to the testimony which he bore, by cros [sic] questioning him relative to the scenes and events which are Church History in connection with the bringing forth of the Book of Mormon; that upon all of these questions his mind was clear as it is possible for the human mind to be, and that his testimonies have left no tract [sic] in my mind that he actually converse with an angel who bore testimony to him of the truthfulness of the records contained in the Book of Mormon; that he saw and handled the gold plates from which the said records were taken; that a few hours before his death, and when he was so weak and enfeebled that he was unable to recognize me or anyone, and knew not to whom he was speaking, I asked him if he did not feel that there was an element, at least, of fraudulence and deception in the things that were written and told of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, and he replied as he had always done, and many, many times in my hearing, and with the same spirit that he always manifested when enjoying health and vigor: “The Book of Mormon is no fake. I know what I know. I have seen what I have seen, and I have heard what I have heard. I have seen and handled the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon is written. An angel appeared to me and others and testified to the truthfulness of the record, and had I been willing to have perjured myself and sworn falsely to the testimony I now bear, I could have been a rich man, but I could not have testified other than I have done and am now doing, for these things are true.”

Martin Harris was buried with a copy of the Book of Mormon in his right hand, and a copy of the Doctrine and Covenants in his left. In a patriarchal blessing given to him by Joseph Smith, Sr., Harris was promised that thy testimony shall yet convince its thousands and its tens of thousands; yea it shall shine like the sun, and though the wicked seek to overthrow it, it shall be in vain, for the Lord God shall bear it off victorious.

In 1848, the year before he died, Oliver Cowdery received rebaptism into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at Kanesville, Iowa. Before an audience of approximately two thousand, including non-members of the Church, Cowdery bore witness of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, the restoration of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods, and the divine calling of Joseph Smith. “I beheld with my eye and handled with my hands the gold plates from which it was translated. I also beheld the Interpreters. That book is true.”

Cowdery was bedridden for most of 1849, probably as a result of chronic pulmonary tuberculosis, and died at Richmond, Missouri, on 3 March 1850. A few months before his death, Cowdery was visited by Jacob Gates, a Latter-day Saint traveling eastward on a mission to England who had been a friend since before Cowdery’s 1838 excommunication. In the course of conversation, Gates asked him about his experience as one of the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon. Had it been a dream? Was it imagination, or illusion, or mere mythology? Cowdery rose from the place where he was resting, retrieved a first edition copy of the Book of Mormon, and read aloud the Testimony of the Three Witnesses. Then, turning to face Gates, he said,

Jacob, I want you to remember what I say to you. I am a dying man, and what would it profit me to tell you a lie? I know . . . that this Book

of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God. My eyes saw, my ears heard, and my understanding was touched, and I know that whereof I testified is true. It was no dream, no vain imagination of the mind—it was real.

David Whitmer lived until 1888, the last of the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

Consequently, he was the most interviewed of all of them.

“Each witness of the Book of Mormon,” Richard Lloyd Anderson justly observes, was an individualist. In David Whitmer, this quality verged on the stubborn. Whether in Mormon society or not, he stood like a rock for his principles. This outspoken and utterly honest personality would have been the first to detect fraud and expose it.

Whitmer was excommunicated from the Church on 13 April 1838 after a period of doctrinal disagreement, financial stress, persecution, and upheaval. Yet when, in 1886, the Omaha Herald asked him whether he “still believed that Joseph Smith was a divinely inspired prophet,” David Whitmer replied, “I know he was, it is not a matter of belief.”

The young James Henry Moyle, who had just received his law degree from the University of Michigan and was returning home to Utah, took a detour to Richmond, Missouri, for the sole purpose of interviewing David Whitmer. When he saw the Witness, he implored him to tell the truth. He told Whitmer of the sacrifices that his family had made for the gospel’s sake, driven from state to state and finally pulling a handcart all the way to the arid desert of the Great Basin.

I said to him: “I was born and reared in the Church and I do pray of you to let me know if there is any possibility of your having been deceived. I am just commencing life as you are preparing to lay it down, and I beg of you to tell me if there is anything connected with the testimony which you have borne to the world that could possibly have been deceptive or misunderstood.” I further said, in an earnest youthful appeal, that I didn’t want to go through life believing in a falsehood, that it was in his power to make known the truth to me. His answer was unequivocal. There was no question about its truthfulness. The angel had stood in a little clear place in the woods with nothing between them but a fallen log—the angel on one side and the witnesses on the other. It had all occurred in broad, clear daylight. He saw the plates and heard the angel with unmistakable clearness.

“He was the first witness I ever attempted to cross examine,” Moyle wrote many years later, “and I did so with all the intensity of my impelling desire to know the truth. The interview lasted two and one-half hours.” The young lawyer, who subsequently served as assistant secretary of the treasury in two federal administrations, came away utterly convinced of David Whitmer’s sincerity.

Throughout his life, Whitmer insisted that the experience was literal, and physical, not merely imaginary or “spiritual.” Joseph Smith III, for example, recalled an 1884 exchange between the Witness and a non-Mormon identified as Colonel Giles:

Rather suggestively he asked if it might not have been possible that he, Mr. Whitmer, had been mistaken and had simply been moved upon by some mental disturbance, or hallucination, which had deceived them into thinking he saw the Personage, the Angel, the plates, the Urim and Thummim, and the sword of Laban. How well and distinctly I remember the manner in which Elder Whitmer arose and drew himself up to his full height — a little over six feet — and said, in solemn and impressive tones: “No, sir! I was not under any hallucination, nor was I deceived! I saw with these eyes and I heard with these ears! I know whereof I speak!’”

In a letter to Anthony Metcalf dated 2 April 1887, Whitmer again insisted on the literal reality of what he had seen: “Of course we were in the spirit when we had the view, for no man can behold the face of an angel, except in a spiritual view, but we were in the body also, and everything was as natural to us, as it is at any time.” To Orson Pratt and Joseph F. Smith, nearly a decade earlier, he testified:

I saw [the plates, the Sword of Laban, the Urim and Thummim, and other artifacts] just as plain as I see this bed (striking his hand upon the bed beside him), and I heard the voice of the Lord, as distinctly as I ever heard anything in my life, declaring that the records of the plates of the Book of Mormon were translated by the gift and power of God.”

“I saw them as plain as I see you now,” he told a reporter from the Kansas City Journal in 1881. He frequently emphasized that the angel and the table on which the plates and other objects rested was very close to him and the other Witnesses, within about three to six feet. “Mr. Whitmer describes every detail of the ‘vision’ with great precision,” reported the Omaha Herald in 1886, “and much fervency.”

P. Wilhelm Poulson interviewed David Whitmer in 1878. When Poulson asked him if the Eight Witnesses did not “handle the plates,” Whitmer replied, “We did not, but they did.”19

The 26 January 1888 issue of the Richmond Conservator reported on the last days of David Whitmer in memorable detail:

On Sunday evening before his death he called the family and his attending physician, Dr. George W. Buchanan, to his bedside, and said “Doctor do you consider that I am in my right mind?” to which the Doctor replied, “Yes, you are in your right mind, I have just had a conversation with you.” He then addressed himself to all present and said: “I want to give my dying testimony. You must be faithful in Christ. I want to say to you all that the Bible and the record of the Nephites, (The Book of Mormon) are true, so you can say that you have heard me bear my testimony on my death bed. All be faithful in Christ and your reward will be according to your works. God bless you all. My trust is in Christ forever, worlds without end. Amen.

“I have been visited by thousands of people,” David Whitmer told James H. Hart in 1883, believers and unbelievers, men and ladies of all degrees, sometimes as many as 15 in one day, and have never failed in my testimony. And they will know some day that my testimony is true.

As Richard Anderson points out, ten of the forty-two surviving testimonies from the Eight Witnesses mention handling the plates. Lucy Mack Smith, who knew the Witnesses well and was there that day, says that they “looked upon the plates and handled them.”20 William Smith, son and brother to several of the Eight, said that all of them testified “that they not only Saw with their eyes but handled with their hands the said record.” 21

Perhaps already responding to suggestions that the experience of the Eight Witnesses was merely “spiritual” and visionary, Hyrum Smith insisted during an 1838 speech that it was entirely real. “He said that he had but two hands and two eyes,” Sally Parker remembered in a letter written in August of that year. “He said he had seen the plates with his eyes and handled them with his hands.” The year previously, Hyrum married Mary Fielding. Shortly thereafter, her brother, Joseph Fielding, wrote, “My sister bears testimony that her husband has seen and handled the plates.”22 And Hyrum himself wrote, in December 1839, of his sufferings in Missouri, where he had been arrested in the fall of 1838 and then imprisoned in the ironically named Liberty Jail from the beginning of December to the beginning of April:

I had been abused and thrust into a dungeon, and confined for months on account of my faith, and the “testimony of Jesus Christ.” However I thank God that I felt a determination to die rather than deny the things which my eyes had seen, which my hands had handled, and which I had borne testimony to, wherever my lot had been cast. And I can assure my beloved brethren that I was enabled to bear as strong a testimony, when nothing but death presented itself, as ever I did in my life.

Samuel Smith, Hyrum’s brother and another of the Eight Witnesses, bore his testimony in the presence of fifteen-year-old Daniel Tyler, who summarized it as simply “He knew his brother Joseph had the plates, for the prophet had shown them to him, and he had handled them and seen the engravings thereon.”23

In an 1836 editorial in the Church newspaper, John Whitmer bore strong testimony of his experience as one of the Witnesses:

I desire to testify to all that will come to the knowledge of this address, that I have most assuredly seen the plates from whence the Book of Mormon is translated, and that I have handled these plates, and know of a surety that Joseph Smith, Jr., has translated the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God. . . Therefore, know ye, O ye inhabitants of the earth, wherever this address may come, that I have in this thing freed my garments of your blood, whether you believe or disbelieve.

But John Whitmer was excommunicated on 10 March 1838, one month before his brother David, and never returned to the Church.

For a brief period, it even appears that John’s spiritual confidence in the Book of Mormon had been shaken by his separation from his former associates and by his bitterness over economic and other issues raised by the Church’s sojourn in Missouri. He was sorrowful and dejected about his excommunication, but also, for at least a time, quite angry at the Church in general and Joseph Smith in particular. Of all the Witnesses, he comes the closest, in a sense, to denying his testimony. During the 1839 exchange with Theodore Turley that we’ve already mentioned, Whitmer confessed to doubts about whether the Book of Mormon was true. Speaking of the original text on the plates, he said, “I cannot read it, and I do not know whether it is true or not.” Nonetheless, he insisted, “I handled those plates; there were fine engravings on both sides. I handled them.”

This is highly impressive. Unlike the Three Witnesses, who heard a divine voice testify to the truth of the translation of the plates, the Eight Witnesses simply saw the plates under quite matter-of-fact conditions. Yet, even in the depths of his alienation and bitterness, even when he was most inclined to doubt what he could not see for himself, even living, as he did, in the area of the worst anti-Mormon persecutions, John Whitmer could not deny that he had “lifted and handled a metal object of substantial weight.”

Moreover, the bitterness, or at least the skepticism, was short-lived. After 1856, John Whitmer was the last survivor of the Eight Witnesses. In 1861, Jacob Gates spoke

with him for more than four hours. Gates then wrote of John Whitmer in his journal: “[H]e still testified that the Book of Mormon is true and that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of the Lord.”

Myron Bond reported in 1878 that old Father John Whitmer told me last winter, with tears in his eyes, that he knew as well as he knew he had an existence that Joseph translated the ancient writing which was upon the plates, which he “saw and handled,” and which, as one of the scribes, he helped to copy, as the words fell from Joseph’s lips, by supernatural or almighty power.

P. Wilhelm Poulson interviewed him that same year:

I said: I am aware that your name is affixed to the testimony in the Book of Mormon, that you saw the plates? He—It is so, and that testimony is true. I—Did you handle the plates with your hands? He—I did so! I—Then they were a material substance? He—Yes, as material as anything can be. I—They were heavy to lift? He—Yes, and you know gold is a heavy metal, they were very heavy. I—How big were the leaves? He—So far as I recollect, 8 by 6 or 7 inches. I— Were the leaves thick? He—Yes, just so thick, that characters could be engraven on both sides. I—How were the leaves joined together? He—In three rings, each one in the shape of a D with the straight line towards the centre I—Did you see them covered with a cloth?

He—No. He handed them uncovered into our hands, and we turned the leaves sufficient to satisfy us.24

Finally, six months before his death, John Whitmer spoke at a public Sunday service. His remarks were reported in the Kingston Sentinel, as follows:

Mr. Whitmer is considered a truthful, honest and law abiding citizen by this community, and consequently, his appointment drew out a large audience. Mr. Whitmer stated that he had often handled the identical golden plates which Mr. Smith received from the hand of the angel. He said it was of pure gold; part of the book was sealed up solid, the other part was open, and it was this part which was translated.”

Were there real plates? Yes, there were. If anything in early Mormon history is well established, surely the existence of the plates is. Let’s consider the testimonies of several unofficial witnesses.

The sixteen-year-old William Smith always remembered the night when his older brother, Joseph, outran pursues and brought the plates into the Smith home. William lifted the plates that night, and estimated their weight at about sixty pounds.25 Joseph Smith’s sister Katharine hefted the covered plates on several different occasions. She too recalled his arrival home with the plates and remembered that they were “wrapped . . . up in his frock”:

When he got to the door he said:

“Father, I have been followed; look and see if you can see any one.” He then threw himself on the bed and fainted, and when he came to he told us the circumstances; he had his thumb put out of place and his arm was very lame.

Her grandson, Herbert Salisbury, remembered Katharine relating that “When [Joseph] came in the house . . . he was completely out of breath. She took the plates from him and laid them on the table temporarily, and helped revive him until he got breathing properly, and also examined his hand, and treated it for the bruises on his knuckles.”

She said he entered the house running and threw himself on a couch, panting from his extraordinary exertion. She told me Joseph allowed her to “heft” the package but not to see the gold plates, as the angel had forbidden him to show them at that period. She said they were very heavy.

Martin Harris says that he and his family lifted the plates in a box when they were first looking into Joseph’s claims, and that he held the plates on his knee for a time while he and Joseph were preparing to hide them in the woods. He said that “he had hefted the plates repeatedly.” 26 Harris put their weight at between forty and fifty, or forty and sixty, pounds.27 Like his fellow Witness David Whitmer, Harris gave the dimensions of the plates as seven by eight inches.28

William could feel the shape of the plates through the cloth that covered them. “They were not quite as large as this Bible,” he said. “Could tell whether they were round or square. Could raise the leaves this way (raising a few leaves of the Bible before him). One could easily tell that they were not stone, hewn out to deceive, or even a block of wood. Being a mixture of gold and copper, they were much heavier than stone, and very much heavier than wood.” 29

28 Joseph Smith recalled them as being six by eight inches; Orson Pratt, who had spoken with all of the principal figures, agreed with Harris and Whitmer that they were seven by eight inches. See Henrichsen, JBMS, 18.

“I could tell,” said William Smith, “they were plates of some kind and that they were fastened together by rings running through the back.”30 The rings are a striking feature. We’ve already heard John Whitmer’s testimony that there were three of them, shaped like a capital D. Based on his interviews with two of the Three Witnesses and especially with Hyrum Smith, William McClellin also knew of connecting “rings in the shape of the letter D, which,” he says, “facilitated the opening and shutting of the book” (in the manner of modern three-ring binders).31 David Whitmer also described the three D- shaped rings. It’s difficult to imagine this degree of consensus regarding such an unusual detail if the plates were only imaginary or never uncovered. A brief article by Warren Aston, forthcoming in the FARMS Insights newsletter, will examine the significance of these rings and (this is still under discussion) may point out a striking ancient parallel to them.

Emma Smith, two months before her death, told her eldest son that

The plates often lay on the table without any attempt at concealment, wrapped in a small linen table cloth, which I had given him to fold them in. I once felt of the plates as they thus lay on the table, tracing their outline and shape. They seemed to be pliable like thick paper, and would rustle with a metallic sound when the edges were moved by the thumb, as one sometimes thumb the edges of a book. [I] moved them from place to place on the table as it was necessary on doing my housework.”

One striking and often unnoticed aspect of the experience of the Three Witnesses is the fact that they did not see only the golden plates. The vision was considerably more complex than that, making deception (via the fabrication of fake ancient artifacts) an even more remote possibility. According to repeated testimony, besides the plates of the Book of Mormon and the angel, both the sealed and the unsealed portion, they saw the Urim and Thummim and the accompanying breastplate, the “Ball” or “Director” (called the “Liahona” in the Book of Mormon), the Sword of Laban, the brass plates, and “many other plates.”

“The Urim and Thummim were two white stones,” David Whitmer told P. Wilhelm Poulson in 1878, “each of them cased in as spectacles are, in a kind of silver casing, but the bow between the stones was more heavy, and longer apart between the stones, than we usually find it in spectacles.”

Lucy Mack Smith “examined” the Urim and Thummim and “found that it consisted of two smooth three-cornered diamonds set in glass, and the glasses were set in silver bows, which were connected with each other in much the same way as old fashioned spectacles.”

Lucy Mack Smith on the breastplate

It was wrapped in a thin muslin handkerchief, so thin that I could see the glistening metal, and ascertain its proportions without any difficulty.

It was concave on one side and convex on the other, and extended from the neck downwards, as far as the centre of the stomach of a man of extraordinary size. It had four straps of the same material, for the purpose of fastening it to the breast, two of which ran back to go over the shoulders, and the other two were designed to fasten to the hips. They were just the width of two of my fingers, (for I measured them,) and they had holes in the ends of them, to be convenient in fastening.

David Whitmer, saw the receptacle in which the plates had lain in the Hill Cumorah. “It was a stone box,” he told P. Wilhelm Poulson in 1878, “and the stones looked to me as if they were cemented together. That was on the side of the hill, and a little down from the top.” According to a reporter for the Chicago Times, who interviewed Whitmer in August 1875, “Three times has he been at the hill Cumorah and seen the casket that contained the tablets, and the seer-stone. Eventually the casket had been washed down to the foot of the hill, but it was to be seen when he last visited the historic place.” Both the Chicago Tribune in December 1885 and the Chicago Times in January 1888 reported his testimony that he and Oliver Cowdery had been guided to the Hill Cumorah by Joseph Smith on one occasion, during which they had seen the receptacle together.

Accordingly, in order to save his unbelief, Vogel must invent elaborate metallurgical fraud as well as invoke complex collective hallucination. He suddenly suggests, without even a trace of supporting evidence, that Joseph Smith might perhaps, conceivably, have faked a set of tin plates in order to deceive his friends. This unevidenced and rather implausible pseudofact is, however, a topic for another occasion, when we will also need to consider how the poor farmboy Joseph Smith also managed, it seems, to create a forged sword of Laban, a bogus Liahona, a fake breastplate, and a stage-prop Urim and Thummim, and then somehow lost them without a trace.

“Secular historians are . . . more inclined than Mormons to suppress source material from Joseph’s closest associates,” remarks the distinguished Columbia University historian Richard L. Bushman. Since, he says, quoting extensively from the reminiscences of those closest to the events would tend to suffuse a modern narrative with their own faith, and would turn readers’ attention to Joseph’s transparently sincere desire to obey God, “believing historians are more inclined to be true to the basic sources than unbelieving ones.”32

Watch this lecture on our Youtube site at:

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Pt. 4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k6HwbyGcwE

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32 Bushman, “The Recovery of the Book of Mormon,” 24, 26.

 

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Investigating the Kirtland Egyptian Papers

Summary

Summary

Brian Hauglid examines the complex collection commonly known as the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, distinguishing the Abraham manuscripts from the Egyptian manuscripts and tracing their scribes, dates, and documentary history.

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Brian Hauglid examines the complex collection known as the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, distinguishing between manuscripts containing Book of Abraham text and documents dealing with Egyptian characters, alphabets, and grammar. He focuses on the manuscripts’ scribes, dating, organization, and relationships, emphasizing that the documents are more complicated—and less easily categorized—than the traditional name suggests.

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What are the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, and how do they relate to the Book of Abraham?

Short Answer

The Kirtland Egyptian Papers are a collection of nineteenth-century manuscripts associated with Joseph Smith and his associates, including copies of Book of Abraham text and documents dealing with Egyptian characters, alphabets, and grammar. In this 2006 FAIR Conference presentation, Brian Hauglid examines the manuscripts as a complex documentary collection, focusing on their dating, scribes, organization, and relationships rather than treating them as a single uniform document.

Key Takeaways
  • The “Kirtland Egyptian Papers” are actually several different manuscripts rather than one document.

  • Hauglid distinguishes Abraham manuscripts containing Book of Abraham text from Egyptian manuscripts containing alphabet, counting, and grammar material.

  • The documents were produced by several scribes, including W. W. Phelps, Warren Parrish, Frederick G. Williams, and Willard Richards.

  • Some of the documents date outside the Kirtland period, making the traditional name somewhat misleading.

  • Hauglid emphasizes the complexity of establishing the manuscripts’ dates, handwriting, relationships, and sequence.

Editorial Note: This presentation reflects Brian Hauglid’s scholarship and views at the time it was delivered in 2006. His personal religious views have since changed. FAIR preserves this presentation as part of its historical conference archive and for the scholarly value of the material presented.

Investigating the Kirtland Egyptian Papers—by Brian Hauglid FAIR Conference 2006

I have to admit I was a little—I had a disturbing event yesterday. I met our cameraman—I don’t know if you met Will Schryver yet and he kept telling me, he thought he had seen me somewhere and finally right around lunch time he came up and he said, “I finally figured out where I’ve seen you.”

I said, “Where?”

He said, “You look like Mark Hofmann.”

I would rather be Dan Peterson with the Krispy Kremes than Mark Hofmann!

You know I have to tell you one more little thing here. You know I have been kind of messing around little bit on the FAIR boards, and we keep getting this elephant in the room thing—some of you know it what I am talking about. You know, the Book of Abraham controversy. “The elephant in the room” is, “It’s so obvious; why doesn’t everybody just see that and leave the church?”

Bias and Belief

It reminded me of this cartoon thing that I saw one time. It was a two fleas on a Cocker Spaniel, looking up into the stars, and one flea says to the other, “Do you really believe in a dog?” [Laughter] It’s just that obvious, isn’t it? Things are just that obvious.

Well it’s a pleasure to be with you today. I think this is my first FAIR conference, I believe, and I’ve watched your work, I’ve been an admirer from afar and so I am kind of glad that I finally broke the ice and got to know you a little bit more, and I am with you now. I hope that I can become among you as we move along here.

For many years I’ve had a really deep interest in the Book of Abraham. I’ve researched it, I’ve written about it, as you know. And the main thing that I guess I want to start out with: I am totally biased that the Book of Abraham is the word of God, totally biased. I believe with all my heart that this is the word of God.

Now, if that offends anybody, good—because that’s the way it is. Because that it’s the Holy Spirit that’s totally that is true.

So everything that I tell you today—whether it’s all those evidence and all those technical stuff—really doesn’t convince me one way or the other because if its what the critics say I still believe the Book of Abraham is true. That’s not ever going to change, because I have that witness. And I think I have some people on here that feel that too—I know I do—that it doesn’t matter what they say, we still know what’s true all the way.

Now if keeping my solemn covenant—and I say solemn covenant—to sustain and defend the kingdom of God upon this earth makes me an “apologist,” so be it. Then you can call me an apologist all day long because I am going to keep that covenant.

The Kirtland Egyptian Papers (KEP)

Well the KEP, Kirtland Egyptian Papers. It’s not uncommon for academics—in my field anyway—to run up against questions and problems that have tough solutions to them or even no solutions. You run into conundrums and paradoxes all the time and with the KEP they are around every turn—every turn there is a question looming there, a question mark for this, a question mark for that, and you are just about pulling your hair out trying to figure things out.

And so, for the past couple of years I have devoted my life to try to figure out the Kirtland Egyptian Papers and I am happy to tell you that I’ve got it all figured out now. Okay? Somebody will give you the word today.

What did I have to do to learn about the KEP? Well I did have to kind of figure out that since I am a Islamist and I can’t be an expert in this, I decided that I would draw on some other people like Royal Skousen Kent Jackson. People have done some textual study and I’ve actually learnt some things along the way. So I’ve gotten out of my Islamic barrier there and I have learned new things, isn’t that amazing that we can do that? We don’t have to be I mean Kevin Barney sitting right here. He is a lawyer plus he is a great scholar, okay. And I think those two are mutually exclusive sometimes, but I am just kidding Kevin. All right.

So I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what I need to know in order to evaluate these documents and so I am not going to be able to give you all of the answers. I am not going to able to talk about all of the Abraham and Egyptian manuscripts but I am going to give it a try at least to give you some things to think about here.

Now you know that they are called Kirkland Egyptian Papers, and as I have worked with some of the church historians as I’ve had an opportunity to look at the originals they just have a very basic identification system (we have them catalogued) so they made me memorize these numbers here: they said, “Well you go by is those numbers there, okay? Manuscript 1294 Folders one through five,” and I said, “Okay.” “And now the Egyptian stuff Manuscript 1295, Folders one through nine.” “Okay.”

And it’s really interesting because they keep them in a box, the top flips up, and then there are all these folders in there and they are marked just like what it says here—you just open it up and there are all your folders and they try to keep it between these nice plastic sheets, of course, that stop any deterioration, I suppose.

I suppose they will do some conservation in the future to seal them in Mylar, like they did with the papyri, which is all nicely taken care about this time.

So what I would like to do is to help all of us look at these papers a little bit differently. First of all, they are not really Kirtland Egyptian Papers because not all of them are from Kirtland. And so, I am going to refer to them as either Abraham Manuscripts or Egyptian Manuscripts. Now the Abraham Manuscripts are the ones that have the Book of Abraham text on them. The Egyptian Manuscripts are different. They have the alphabet and they have the counting, and they have the grammar.

But I want to give you a little background of these manuscripts first before we talk about them, because I would assume that not everybody here knows all these manuscripts and so let me see if I can show this—I know it’s a big chart here.

There is something like this on the FAIR Wiki, or something like this, this is just for the Abraham Manuscripts and I’ll show you the Egyptian one in a minute.

Abraham Manuscript #1

Going across it’s dated sometime in 1835, it has five leaves: that means there is writing on both sides. And so there are ten pages to it, and the first part of it on page one and that would be Abraham one through three—it’s in the hand of W. W. Phelps. And then the next part in all the way to the end of the manuscript is in the hand of Warren Parrish and Warren’s a very nice writer. Easy, pretty easy to read. So that’s manuscript number one.

Now this one here was discovered by Wilford Wood, who lived around the turn of the century. I think he died in 1950-something or 1960-something. He was a furrier. He made fur coats and (I think it was in 1916) he kind of had a spiritual calling to spend his life trying to find everything that he could, all the artifacts that he could: papers, documents, things that belonged to Joseph Smith. He tried to collect as much of these materials as he could. And in 1936–37 especially he was in touch with the man named Charles Bidaman.

Now Charles Bidaman is the son of Lewis Bidaman, who was the second husband of Emma Smith, and that’s where that manuscript comes from. Wilford Wood bought it from him for $100 and a fur coat for Charles’ wife. That’s how we got the manuscript and that was in 1937. Then Brother Wood was very concerned that manuscript papers be given to the Church, so he donated it to the Church and it’s been with the Church Historical Department ever since.

Abraham Manuscript #2

Now, manuscript number two. That’s another 1835 document I think. It is two leaves—that means it’s two sheets of paper written on both sides. It’s in the hand of Frederick G. Williams.

Now, Dean Jesse, had originally assigned W. W. Phelps to that but we’ve figured out in recent months that it’s in the handwriting of Frederick G. Williams. There is just pretty much no question about it, and that covers the Book of Abraham chapter one starting at verse four and then goes to Abraham 2:6.

Abraham Manuscript #3

Manuscript number three is dated sometime after October 29th, and it has three leaves. Again three pages or three sheets on each side in the handwriting of Warren Parrish and that goes from Abraham 1:4 to 2:6.

Abraham Manuscript #4

Then I had to kind of split up manuscript four okay because it’s all in the same folder but they are three things. So the first one here is 13 leaves, it’s written only on one side in the handwriting of Willard Richards, probably in 1841, and that’s Abraham 1:1 to 2:18.

And then 4a are two separate sheets, pages 7 and 8—they are in the handwriting of Willard Richards and contains Abraham 3:18–26.

And, finally, 4b is after 1841, and again it’s only one page, written by Willard Richards and it’s the Facsimile one interpretation, but that’s on the reverse of page two of this one. Is it getting complicated yet? You know, these actually are quite complicated!

Abraham Manuscript #5

Then manuscript number five is three leaves okay and that’s Facsimile two explanation.

There is a man name Stephen Emmel, a Coptic papyrologist from Harvard, I believe, who looked at these materials, their relationship to each other, and said, “The Mormons don’t realize how complex these documents are.”

So these are all very complicated things, but I am a simple guy so I tried to simplify as best as I can for myself, anyway.

Now two of the manuscripts, manuscript two and manuscript three, have the strange phrase at the very top of the manuscript, “sign of the fifth degree of the first” is crossed out, second is put up there and it says “part.” And then the next one says the same thing and it’s crossed out the same way and they are identical that way.

Now that has caused no small stir among both apologists and critics, as both try to figure out what in the world that is about.

And so of course I’ll tell you exactly what it’s about in just a few minutes, right? Not.

Egyptian Manuscripts

Now here’s the Egyptian ones. We talk about getting more complicated here. And this stuff is not easy to figure out: first of all you have nine folders or manuscripts here and we’ve got some dates that we have tentatively figured out and the handwriting and these are the names over here: “grammar and alphabet” and “Egyptian counting.”

Three “Egyptian alphabet” manuscripts—one in the handwriting of Joseph Smith. There’s also one notebook that says “valuable discovery” on it, with Joseph Smith’s signature and a couple columns of the Book of Tchemmin, which Michael Rhodes identified.

Now that’s a lot of stuff. This is a lot of material here. It’s not going to be easy to figure out what all this is about. But I am going to give you some things to think about here as we go along. Let me give you what I call the Book of Abraham stemma—now what this means is the kind of the genealogical relationship between these manuscripts.

Manuscript two would be the earliest. Then manuscript three could have been copied from manuscript two, but it’s later. Manuscript one is definitely copied from manuscript three and manuscript four is probably copied from manuscript one. That’s what that means it’s just kind of a stemma here to help us understand what the relationship is between these particular manuscripts.

The critics and their approaches

Now interestingly, manuscripts one through three have hieratic characters lined up on the left hand margin with English text on the right. And these characters are taken from the Joseph Smith papyri number 11. If you don’t know what that is, it’s the papyri that supposedly comes right after Facsimile number one in the papyri collection.

So manuscripts two and three obviously connect to some of this Egyptian material okay but manuscript one doesn’t have the “sign of the fifth degree” and all that on there but it still has those characters on there and so the critics have concluded (with the sound of a slamming iron door by the way) that these characters represent the translation process of the Book of Abraham. That’s kind of the long and the short of it.

Of course the characters themselves come from the Hor “Book of Breathings” as I said, and they immediately follow Facsimile number one, and so the way the critics think about the matter is they look at Abraham 1:12 and it reads “I will refer you to the representation [meaning Facsimile Number one] at the commencement of this record.” And they say, “Well that means that the Book of Abraham ought to come right after Facsimile number one.” I am just summarizing the critics’ point here.

And we know that the Book of Abraham does not come from the Hor Book of Breathings. In fact, it is not even close. How do we know that? Because it’s been translated a number of times. The most recent is

by Mike Rhodes. He translated all that material and you cannot find any Book of Abraham material in there.1

Now here’s just a thought—and I appreciate Kevin Barney on this one on his adaptation thesis that J Red, a Jewish redactor may have put that particular statement in to help the reader refer back to a picture. Or it could have been Joseph Smith himself putting in that particular explanation. We don’t know for sure. It almost doesn’t sound like Abraham, but such things are called glosses or explanations. I’ve found those in the Book of Moses, even—there are glosses in which things are being explained [by the translator or a redactor]. It’s still part of the scriptures, but it’s a kind of explanation to help us move through the text.

And so the critics really do have some good questions about this, if they would be a little bit more open, but what I think really it’s going to take to at least start to answer these questions is to really carefully analyze these manuscripts, manuscript by manuscript, page by page, line by line, and even word by word in some instances. And when we investigate these manuscripts that closely we may come to some conclusions that the critics come to, and we may (and likely will) come to other conclusions that they do not.

The only one I know so far that has studied the manuscripts as much as or maybe more than me is Brent Metcalfe. He is the only one that I know of, and why is that? Because nobody else has the pictures.

Some others of the critics do, of course, but they don’t know how to interpret them. I have to talked to Brent and actually we have come to the same conclusions on some things, we’ve already determined that. And, yeah, we depart radically on some other things. So just understand that when I say that he is one that I know has studied the manuscripts quite carefully.

So now on the FAIR Wiki—which I was very impressed to learn about—there is a discussion of the critics’ approach to the Book of Abraham and the Egyptian Manuscripts. So, let’s just review that really quickly here because this is going to help us figure out where we are going.

Translation documents for the Book of Abraham?

The critics argue that the Book of Abraham Manuscripts represent the translation working papers for the Book of Abraham. So those characters over on the left side are being translated on the right side with the text. That’s what the critics say is going on.

And then they go to this one—the Egyptian Manuscripts—demonstrate that Joseph did not understand Egyptian. [They insist that] number three of the Book of Abraham Manuscripts demonstrates that the Sensen papyrus (the Papyrus the Book of Hor) was believed to be the source for the Book of Abraham. The Sensen Papyrus—since it’s in fact not the Book of Abraham, but an Egyptian Book of Breathings, whatever else the Book of Abraham may be, it is not an accurate translation of an ancient Egyptian text. [This is the basis of the critics’ case.]

1 Michael D. Rhodes, The Hor Book of Breathings: A Translation and Commentary (Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, Provo, Utah, 2002).

So this last one now is the final damming piece of incontrovertible evidence, and it has to be founded on those first three assumptions, of course—and if you accept number four, then that is supposed to lead us to the inescapable conclusion that this whole Book of Abraham thing is a gigantic fiasco for Joseph Smith and the Latter-day Saints. [It is supposed to] bring into question the very veracity and legitimacy of the church and shakes it to its very foundation, right? And so we all leave the church, go home and watch TV and something like that, but it’s over. Not so easily though, no.

No, if it was that easy we wouldn’t be easy. It be a nice package if everything on there were true, but the one part that’s on there that is absolute true is number four (the Sensen Papyru is not the text of the Book of Abraham). We all accept that.

Challenging the critics’ assumptions

What I want to work on today is [assumption] number one. I can’t prove whether Joseph Smith knew Egyptian or not. I can do some dabbling there. I can’t prove what the early brethren believed about the translation process because there is not really anything written about it that much.

But I can work on number one—if those are translation working papers then the manuscripts are going to give us clues that they are translation working papers.

So let me give the bottom line here before we even start. The portion of the Book of Abraham represented in these manuscripts was translated as early as July of 1835. We know that because there is a reference to it that there was a translation actually going on in July of 1835 and if you know anything about Joseph Smith’s translation abilities with the Book of Mormon or the JST you know he can do a lot in a little time with his translations. Okay, so keep that in mind.

Secondly, manuscripts one, two and three do not show the marks of a dictated text. Now why is that important? Because if they were dictated then that would say again that they are part of the translation process—you would conclude that Joseph Smith is right there dictating these documents, and then you’d have to explain those hieratic characters on the margin.

Well, now, when you define an hieratic character over here with 100 English words, it doesn’t make any sense. Can you get a hundred words out of one little character? Of course not. And so, [if these are translation documents,] it makes Joseph and the brethren look like idiots. It’s okay to say that, because we know that’s not what those hieratic characters mean.

And so what we have to determine is whether or not the manuscripts were dictated: was Joseph right there getting the inspiration or telling them what to do with those characters there? If so, the manuscripts will, I think, tell us that’s the case.

Now the third thing we need to keep in mind here. Joseph Smith in my view was a seer and a scholar. He was a seer and a scholar. And I believe that Joseph Smith worked with his scribes to bring about the revelatory Book of Abraham that we have, the divine Book of Abraham. But I also believe that they— including Joseph Smith and his scribes or whoever else—made serious intellectual attempts to understand things, to learn things, languages and such, and I think we need to keep those [ideas or

roles] separate: Joseph the seer and Joseph the scholar. He is both, [but they are a separate roles], I think.

And we can’t pigeonhole Joseph into just saying that he is a seer, therefore this stuff doesn’t make sense. If he is a scholar, oh now we’ve got him working, trying to figure things out just like the rest of us. “Oh, he wasn’t given everything,” we might say. “Okay. That’s fair, that’s all right.”

Myths and realities of the manuscripts

So let me give you a few what I think anyway are myths and realities here about the Abraham manuscripts and also about the photos. I want to talk about the photos too. When I talk about the photos I should let you know that Steven Christiansen is the man who was killed, by Mark Hofmann, not by me. I am not Mark Hofmann, or any incarnation of him, but Steve worked with the church to produce some high resolution photographs. And after Christiansen was murdered Mr. Metcalfe was able to get negatives from, you’ll have to help me out here, but I think it was from Steve Christiansen.

And so he got the negatives and he’s had those negatives for quite a few years and he’s done lots of studies on those and shared them with some folks and on the internet as well. And so these are photos I will be talking about.

Myth #1: High resolution photos provide an accurate portrayal of the manuscripts So let’s start with myth number one. Not everybody believes these myths so I am just saying a kind of myth because I have seen this as I monitored the discussion boards and as I have heard from different people these kinds of things here. So myth number one is the high resolution photos provide an accurate portrayal of the Book of Abraham manuscripts—that’s a myth to me. And we’ll talk about that. Now I don’t know how well you can see this. This is a photo of the Book of Abraham manuscript one, page one. And this is the one that comes from the Christiansen collection. And so this is something like what Mr. Metcalfe would have.

You know here’s another one that I procured more recently. This is a digital image of the same page. Now you see a difference there. There are differences that you can’t really see it on this too well but there is a lot more red at least—this color correction is actually beautiful. I’ve seen the originals enough to know that this one here looks a lot more like the original than this one over here [the Metcalfe version]. Now let me just run you through a couple more here.

Here is Book of Abraham manuscript two page three okay and this is one of the ones I have to pull my hair out on a little bit, with the Christiansen photos, and here is the new one—a lot nicer. A nice digitized image there. Another one: this is the Book of Abraham manuscripts three page five. By the way this one here is used quite a bit on the web, there may be some be recognize that. And here is the newer one here. Again you can’t see quite as clearly on this [older] one compared to this [newly digitzed] one?

This is manuscript number four, page two—this is a Willard Richards one and here is the new [digitized image] right here. So you can see that there is some differences between the digitized images and the

earlier photos that were done over two decades ago. And it’s been more helpful for me even with these nice digitized images to go up to the church and look at the originals, because with your eyes you have more of the 3D viewpoint of things and it’s a lot better even that way. And so I just want you to know that there is progress being made on trying to make these kinds of things more accessible to scholars, to understand these manuscripts better.

Myth #2a: Ink analysis can give us complete and accurate information Now myth number two—this one here I’ve seen a lot on the discussion board (and by the way this is not Mr. Metcalfe). Mr. Metcalfe agrees that this is an absolute myth: that ink analysis on photos can give complete and accurate information. Okay well that can’t be true. Why? Because how can you do ink analysis on a photo? It’s kind of hard to do that, isn’t it? And I haven’t tried it, and I don’t want to, because if you go to the originals and use a binocular microscope or if you need to some day do a chemical analysis it would have to be on the originals, wouldn’t it? In order to see the right ink and to see things magnified or whatever you’d use the proper tools.

So the reality is you have to use the originals on this [type of analysis] with the microscope or chemical analysis and that’s just the way it is folks. You cannot come to a real, solid conclusion about ink with photos, you just can’t, it doesn’t work. All right.

Now here’s the most over-used one I’ve seen on the web.

Myth #2b: There are two kinds of ink on manuscript three This the one I have seen on the web. Book of Abraham manuscript three, page five, and here is the new digitized image there. Well it does look the same, doesn’t it? It does look the same and I bet you’re waiting for me to say it’s different but it’s not. I did look at this under magnification and made sure that these two inks with the same thing. Now let me just throw out something to you here that John Gee wants me to tell you, and he wants you to spread it around, all right, and that is that he was arguing for a two ink analysis, two ink theory, that many of you know about.

And the two ink theory says that the characters were in a different ink than the text therefore the characters put on the paper after the text was already there, that was the way kind of John was thinking about that. And when he was thinking through that he did not have access to the originals. He did not have access to the newly digitized images he only had what basically everybody else has. And so he just made judgment call there.

Well John and I have been working together on some of this and he is totally convinced now that the two ink theory on manuscript three is dead. There are no two inks, aren’t you sad?

You shouldn’t be sad, because this particular manuscript here is used as an example to shoot down the two ink theory when in reality there is other three manuscripts still, two others with hieratic characters on them that are not analyzed on the web with these critiques here.

And when we get to manuscript two, you’ll see that the two ink theory is not dead all the way yet. If somebody will try to kill it, I am sure, but here is Book of Abraham manuscript two so you see the characters over here you’ll notice there is no margin line on this one and there is lots of space between the text and the characters there. And we have to figure out why that is. There are several conclusions one could come to about that—and here is the newly digitized image.

Now I have done enough looking at this under a microscope to determine with absolute certainty that these characters here are in a different ink than the text. I know that. I can magnify things from 6 times to 50 times and look at the fibers even and I can see that there are different inks there and you can see a correction rate here with the same ink as this over here. And I’ll show you some more of that. And so yeah the two ink theory is dead with manuscript three, but manuscript two is yet to be dead. I guess the critics will have a go, which I am sure they’ll do somehow. So let’s go on myth number [four].

Myth #3: Manuscript one contains Phelps’ transcription of Joseph Smith’s dictation Book of Abraham manuscript number one, page one, and I want to focus just on the Phelps section—that’s that top section there. And many of the critics argue that this is dictated text: that is, Joseph Smith is standing there dedicating this to W. W. Phelps. [This is important to the critics,] of course, because they’re “translation papers”— remember they don’t want us to lose that thought.

And here’s the text straight here, and you can see there are some characters over here and some numbers here that will talk about in just a minute. It’s in a darker ink than the Parrish writing. The reality here is that this is not dictated text—I am going to show you why. Here are some reasons”

#1) First of all, with these number characters here okay we got number one that goes with this one and this one and we have number two that goes with this one so and by the way you can find these in the grammar book of the Egyptian manuscripts here. Some of this kind of material looks just a bit too deliberate for me for dictated text. Okay to put numbers on there, Joseph Smith would have to be saying, “Okay, now put number one….” He is dictating number one, and then you write there so can I put number two and then dictate it—doesn’t make sense to me. And so it appears very deliberate, but if that were the only evidence I had, I probably wouldn’t told you this one.

#2) How about punctuation? This one here Will Schryver actually got the message board going on this one a little bit. You can see a lot of semicolons in here and colons and commas. And generally speaking with dictated text you almost have zero punctuation. You go to the Book of Mormon manuscripts or the JST manuscripts—there’s very little punctuation on those dictated manuscripts.

Well so what do you? You look at Phelps’ contemporary letters to his wife Sally and lo and behold, the punctuation that he uses here is very similar to the punctuation that he is using in these letters, which were composed right along that same time period. He punctuates it more. And so to me that tells us that this particular part, anyway, is not dictated—it’s too clean there.

#3) There is a phenomenon called dittography where a scribe will be coping something from another manuscript and accidentally write a word twice. You see it all the time in scribal errors.

And so you can see “be” over here and he’s got little equal sign and then he writes beginning again, the whole thing. Okay. We’re supposed to just write beginning there not beginning and so his eye is moving back and forth between two manuscripts there. And so let’s see.

#4) Now this I know this is a big word it’s called homeoteleuton. I’ll tell you what that is. So you walk up to the room here and I think I am swearing at you or something—I am not!

You can read there “a high priest holding the right belonging to the fathers” and that’s where we are ending right here from the beginning of time. So that’s Abraham one, two, and three. But notice what’s missing here. Well we have the error right here this is what we have now. “It was conferred upon me from the fathers it came down from the fathers.” Now you notice you got fathers here and fathers there. This was a very common type of mistake made by scribes from Old Testament, New Testament times, all the way up to the 19th century scribes. Even today, when you see two words like this, you see fathers all over the place it’s so easy to take this “fathers,” this “fathers” and just omit what’s in between. It’s simple to do that and you see it all the time; it’s a common scribal error.

And that is just to say that Phelps’ eye was looking at “fathers” and just missed it up to the next “fathers.” Phelps also has seven omissions in the Phelps section here which are puzzling.

When you think about dictation, to me you need to realize that when Joseph Smith did dictation, he did go back with his scribes and fixed things, of course he did, but this is a lot of stuff that that’s different from our manuscripts. So I don’t know what Phelps was copying from, how accurate the manuscript was or how hurried he was or whatever it was, but he is missing a lot of things in this particular passage or this part here.

So my conclusions: the reality, for me anyway, is that he is copying from an earlier manuscript. Perhaps it’s an unrevised one that the prophet is letting him copy from, I don’t know. Or he is just in a rush, but the point in my view is that this could not have been dictated.

So what am I doing, I am separating the manuscript from the translation here. I am separating it from the translation saying it’s not a working translation paper, that’s what I am saying.

Myth #4: Manuscripts two and three were simultaneously dictated So, now myth number [five]: manuscripts two and three were simultaneously dictated. Now, Mr. Metcalfe already knows that he and I part ways on this one, majorly—we do not agree on this one. And I get to hear his evidence, but here we go

What is normally used on this particular point—for the critics anyway, and I am not lumping Brent [Metcalfe] into that, by the way, yet. But we’ve got this strange sense here at the beginning and because it’s so exact on both manuscripts. It looks like Joseph Smith just dictated that to them and then told them to correct that and they both made the exact same corrections on it because this correction up here is in the handwriting of Williams just like it’s supposed to be and this correction here is in the handwriting of Parrish just like it’s supposed to be. You can even just tell by the s here—it’s very easy.

But number one, why would Joseph Smith dictate such a strange sentence that’s not even in our scriptures? It doesn’t make any sense. That part doesn’t, to me anyway.

What we have in our scriptures is what we have in our scriptures. I just don’t see where he is coming from on this. So the reality for me is that if you put the two manuscripts together (manuscript two and manuscript three) those are the two earliest ones, you are going to notice some big differences there and I would want to have these explained to me. If I were going to be swayed over to the dictation side [of the debate.]

Problem #1: Unusual names will not be the same with dictation And so, first of all the copying of names that should not be as consistent with dictation. Dittography is in these manuscripts again. You got another homeoteleuton in there, you’ve got way too much punctuation again, probably, for dictation purposes. They didn’t waste time on punctuation when things were dictated, they just wrote down what Joseph Smith told them to write down and then they went back later and punctuated things—that was the practice with the Book of Mormon and JST, and so why would we see it any differently here?

If you put these two manuscripts together again you get exact cross outs (the individual letters separated by hyphens are cross outs here; I couldn’t figure out how to do them on PowerPoint, so those are cross outs).

Problem #2: Errors characteristic of copying, not dictation And this is an addition here, and so again that is exact between the two. If you want to go along with the dictation simultaneous dictation theory but notice some of the differences here. You’ve got “their dumb idols” from Williams (#2, left side), while Parrish (#3, right side) has “these dumb idols.”

William’s here is Elk-Keenah, Parrish has Elkkener. Williams adds “that is,” Parrish removes “that is lying before you.” Now for a dictation you’d think Joseph Smith would keep them straight on that.

Again on the names here you have “is called by the Chaldeans, Rahleenos” and here Parrish has “was called by the Egyptians Chaldeans.” Now Williams didn’t hear “Egyptians” but Parrish did. Do you see where I’m going with this? The ears aren’t the same. Okay I am growing old, and I know I have selective hearing, but this isn’t in that category here. Williams hears unrightly, and Parrish does not.

And so to me it’s strange. This would have to be explained to me—why are there these big differences between these manuscripts? And then the dittography here again this is a perfect dittography for copying from another manuscript. You can’t see it very well from where you are sitting, I know, because this isn’t great but “the gods of the land” is right up here and here I try to get it out there a little bit, but it was really tough to do it and then you’ll notice that this underlined portion here is “gods of the land” and it crosses it out.

So again his eye is overlooking [text in copying] this parent manuscript, he sees “gods of the land,” he writes it down, he puts his eyes back there again, sees “gods of the land” again, writes it down. It’s a common thing that occurs and he crosses it out when he sees that he has done it twice. That’s a common scribal error.

Here’s another one with manuscript three “and my”. This is at the bottom of the page and the next page starts with “any my” again. So, he crosses this one out because he goes back and realizes that he had put it twice. Another homeoteleuton. Now this one here I will grant could have been added later by Joseph Smith but it also could be an easy homeoteleuton because when you reading “the god of,” “the god of,” “the god of,” “the god of,” it’s easy to miss one of the “god of,” okay?

And when you’re copying things over but it is weird that they both would miss it. It is weird with that, but if this manuscript is copied from this one that means he is just perpetuating his mistake. Does that make sense?

So we’re just talking about scribal errors here.

Problem #3: Over-punctuation for a dictated text Now let’s go to the dictation question for just a minute here, with Robert J. Matthews on OT1. Now OT1 is the Old Testament manuscript for the JST. He says there is little punctuation. Old Testament two which is the revised one has practically no punctuation. And then New Testament one manuscript, likewise has very little punctuation. New Testament Two has some punctuation added much later—the ink is much darker.

And so what you are seeing there is that Matthews thinks that there was a lot more punctuation after the dictation and somebody went back and put it in, in a different ink. And then of course Royal Skousen, in his book on the original manuscripts, says it without any punctuation at all. Okay. So punctuations is an important issue with this question about whether these are working translation papers or not. And so here is manuscript three and you have look at all the punctuation. This is a lot more than you would see in a dictated text.

I would have to have that explained to me why is there so much punctuation going on there. Same thing with manuscript two. You get some that look like it had already been punctuated, but notice how dark these punctuation marks are—that means that somebody went back later and punctuated this. If there is going to be any argument for a dictated text, it would have be based on manuscript two, because manuscript three fails the test and manuscript one fails the test completely. Number two is the only one you could possibly argue for it.

But notice here the ink is very dark and it matches the characters. Now what that tells me —and again I had to look at this under a microscope to figure this out— is that somebody went back and put these marks in here and at the same time put in some characters because the inks match; it’s a later ink. Okay. And that’s why to me the two ink theory is not totally dead yet.

Myth #5: Hugh Nibley was always wrong, or always right. And myth number [six]. Did Nibley ever make any errors? Of course not. Or was he completely wrong? Of course not. By the way, Nibley gets hammered a lot on the discussion boards— it’s just sad to see that because he did so much good work and just to throw it out completely (and by the way John Gee has totally been discredited, by the same reasoning, because of his little mistake which he admits to now on the two ink thing and <00:07:03> manuscript number three—he has, in the critics’ telling, been totally discredited because of that one mistake. He doesn’t know what he is doing anymore because he made a mistake? So we can’t make any mistakes as apologist, is that it? What a cry and shame to be looked at that way, Of course we are going to make mistakes.

We are not perfect apologists, we are just trying to do the best that we can with the material that we have, and so Nibley was no different. He made mistakes as well. He wasn’t perfect and he wasn’t an idiot either. I think he was very good. In fact, he believed also that these were all copies that we don’t have the original dictated manuscripts of the Book of Abraham, period—that’s what he said. We don’t have them and I am inclined to agree with him about that.

He believed that manuscript one was the parent copy to manuscript two and three, which we know now is not right, but that’s not a huge error. We know that because Warren Parrish copied manuscript one from manuscript three. What we find with these manuscripts is that the earlier manuscripts generally will have a lot more problems to it. These will be more problematic, to try to figure out. There is a lot more variance in there, and lot more mistakes and these kinds of things, and then the next manuscript will be a little bit more fleshed out, a little bit smoother. The next manuscript will be a little bit smoother until finally you get to the manuscript four which is a lot smoother and looks pretty much like the Times and Seasons [published version of the Book of Abraham text]. It’s very smoothed out.

And manuscript two, being the earliest, has the hardest readings in it, with the most variance in it, and so by the time you get to manuscript one it is working out a lot of things like you get this “regulus” in these two manuscripts that gets taken out—”regulus” whatever that is. And you get out “that is lying before you” out of these manuscripts.

By the way, John Gee is going to have something kind of new out on this called the Egyptianisms in the Book of Abraham manuscripts where he has found, and this is one of them here “their hearts are turned”—he’s found that the part that’s crossed out, “the hearts are turned” is the passive Egyptian of the Ptolemaic time period. And he feels that that’s pretty good evidence that Joseph Smith knew what he is talking about. He was seeing something Egyptian going on, and that still needs to be kind of explained I guess.

External evidence for the Book of Abraham manuscripts

Myth #6: The external evidence for the claim that the Book of Abraham manuscripts are copies is not very strong. Well we know that the scribes’ external evidence certainly describes the historical atmosphere in the early nineteenth-century Church.

We know that W. W. Phelps was called as a scribe in July 1835. We know Frederick G. Williams was acting as scribe as early as October 3rd, and we know that Warren Parrish is called as scribe on October 29th. So we know that the manuscripts that we have don’t predate these dates. They are later than that, anyway, and maybe much later—we don’t know for sure.

We also want to taking this consideration some historical matters here: what’s going on between 1835 and 1842? Tons of things are going on in the Church. How busy is Joseph Smith? It’s amazing he has time to breathe. Literally there is so much happening with him. Joseph Smith during this time period gives more rein to the leaders of the Church, gives them more independence to do things. There is an increase in secular learning, learning languages, history, ancient things—the members are very interested in that kind of thing during this time period.

I don’t want to read all of this, but look at some of the things going on in those 7 years: with the preparation and acceptance of the doctrine covenants 1835 edition, I need to give you a little clue here on the how far along the translation was by August 17th, 1835. You know the term “Shinehah” it’s in Abraham 3:13—remember that it got some saviors with “Olea.” Well that word gets adopted into the heading of an March 1833 revelations in the 1835 D&C in August.

And how was it adopted into the Doctrine and Covenants? Well it’s put in there as a code name. Remember the code names that were used by the prophet? Some of you are too young maybe. Our scriptures used to have those in there; they don’t any more. But Shinehah was in the 1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants. It was accepted in August 17th, 1835 which seems to suggest that the translation was at least up to Abraham 3:13 by August of 1835—does that make sense to you? I mean if he is pulling out that word.

There is also more going on with the Kirtland Safety Society, the bank closes, there is <00:02:45>, the Far West problems, the extermination order, the Liberty Jail experiences and all that, building Nauvoo, all of this, there is so much going on. So it’s no wonder really why between 1835 and 1842 Joseph Smith was not able to publish the Book of Abraham at that time.

Well I like this one. Joseph loosens the reins, he really does. He goes to Michigan and lets the brethren go ahead and hold a major conference for the Church. He lets the Missouri and Kirtland leaders just go ahead and run things, for years really. Richard Bushman’s book Rough Stone Rolling makes it pretty clear that Joseph had allowed a lot of autonomy to these leaders and D&C 134 was credited to W. W. Phelps. Some think it’s Oliver Cowdery, but should also be W. W. Phelps as well.

And so there is a lot going on—the reins are loosened, and what I am trying to do is help you see that it’s not out of the realm of reason to expect that these brethren may have been doing some things on their own. From Bushman’s book:

Joseph was not always in charge of the councils he attended—the group itself chose the moderator, shifting the responsibility from one to another of the more experienced men like Sidney Rigdon or Oliver Cowdery, but sometimes turning to new converts like William E. McLellin….Joseph could absent himself from these meetings without crippling business. He left Kirtland for months at a time and the councils carried on in his absence. The men in the Missouri managed their affairs without him for years.2

And so he is not tightly reined there to the brethren. There is also that interest in secular learning I mentioned and as you know Oliver Cowdery goes to New York I believe, it is, and a rabbi Joshua Seixas is found, and he comes back and he begins the school in January of 1836 for the brethren to learn Hebrew.

And Joseph was interested in that, and so were some of the early brethren—they were in an AP class. I don’t have any problem with that but they had to learn from the teacher and Joseph says on Wednesday the 17th February 1836:

2 Richard L. Bushman with Jed Woodruff, Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling (New York, Alfred A. Knopf, 2005), 252.

“attend[ed] the school and read and translated with my class as usual, and my soul delights in the reading and reading of the word of the Lord in the original, and I am determined to pursue the study of languages untill I shall become master of them.”3

And I was talking to Alexander Baugh who is on the Joseph Smith Papers Project and he shared this with me. He has a letter from Joshua Seixas to Joseph Smith. And it reads,

3 Dean C. Jessee, The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1984), 161.

“Mr. Joseph Smith Jun has attended a full course of Hebrew under my tuition and has been indefatigable in acquiring the principals of the sacred language of the Old Testament Scriptures in the original tongue. He has so far accomplished a knowledge of that he is able to translate to my entire satisfaction and by prosecuting the study he will be able to become a proficient in Hebrew. I take this opportunity of thanking him for his industry and his marked kindness toward me.”

And this was in Kirtland in March of 1836 and that tells me two things:

Number one: Joseph Smith is not bad at Hebrew. Number two, he had to work at it. Why didn’t the Lord just give it to him, you know, with all his revelations? Because Joseph is a seer and he is a scholar. He has to work through the books just like you and me. And I think this to me this is just another indication that he is trying to do the best that he can to become the scholar that he wants to be.

I have a couple quotes here, let’s see here we go. The Lord and Joseph Smith were open to allowing some of the early brethren to participate in the bringing forth of scripture. As early as 1829, Oliver Cowdery was given the opportunity to translate the Book of Mormon and failed (see D&C 8–9).

On November 14th, 1835 Warren Parrish was told he “shall see much of my ancient records and shall know of the hidden things and shall be endowed with a knowledge of hidden languages and if he desires and shall seek it out my hand he shall be privileged with writing much of my word as a scribe un to me for the benefit of my people.”4 W. W. Phelps was promised in a blessing, “behold he shall have understanding in all sciences, even languages and with his brother Oliver shall write and arrange many good books for the good of the church with the young may grow up in wisdom.”5

Now I don’t know about you, but it appears to me that it was put into the minds of these early brethren that they could learn some things on their own. Even the Lord in March of 1833 encouraged Joseph Smith and the early brethren to study and learn and become acquainted with all good books and with languages, tongues and people as a revelation March 1833 [D&C 90:10].

Now that would put a thought in my mind to see what I could do to learn some languages.

And so I am just trying to help build an idea of what the climate was at this time when these papers come out. Okay. It’s not unreasonable to suggest that these papers were study papers, not translation papers but study papers. And as I read these papers more and as I go over and over them it just becomes clear to me that that’s exactly what we’re talking about here.

Well this investigation has led me to believe that the Book of Abraham manuscripts and the translation process are two very different things. As far as the translation process goes, we really know little about

4 Joseph Smith blessing to Warren Parrish, given 14 November 1835; see History of the Church 2:311.

5 Blessing given by Joseph Smith on 22 September 1835, recorded 3 October 1835 on page 14 of Church record; presumed to be from the W.W. Phelps diary, 30–34.

how it worked. How much do we know about the Book of Mormon translation process, really, when you get right down to it? What is Joseph Smith experiencing? Or the JST experience?

From Joseph Smith’s previous experience with the Book of Mormon and JST, it is not likely that he used his intellect alone as suggested by these Book of Abraham manuscripts. Now that’s an important point. Just because there are a lot of characters over there, and you’ve got the English on the text on the right side, does not mean that that’s the translation process that he used. And it’s not borne out in the Book of Abraham or Book of Mormon anyway, or in the JST manuscripts, that he would put characters on one side and text on the other side. We don’t have any evidence of him using that process for anything else that he was translating, and if something comes out I sure like to see it.

This would put Joseph Smith more in the realm of an [academic] translator as we would now define it if these are translation papers trying to match the characters [to English equivalents] but when we are referring to Joseph as a translator and a seer it is an entirely different thing. This is the area of revelation about which we know very little.

Conclusion

I do not believe that the Book of Abraham manuscripts represent a goofing around approach. Warren Parrish, Frederick G Williams and W. W. Phelps knew no more about how Joseph Smith received the Book of Abraham than all of do concerning the Book of Mormon when it comes to the divine revelation part.

I think they may have made a serious attempt to try and understand how or if Joseph Smith’s translation matched the hieratic characters. As Nibley first suggested, they may perhaps also have attempted to use Joseph Smith’s translation to learn the Egyptian language. They may also have used the characters simply as paragraph markers, because if you go to manuscripts then you have one for each paragraph, just about. Maybe they are illustrations, maybe they are markers for the paper, I don’t know—but I do know it’s not translation going on there.

What is clear is that the translation process of the Book of Abraham is not represented in these manuscripts. These are two very separate events. The revelatory process is as enigmatic here as Joseph’s other revelation experiences with the Book of Mormon, JST and D&C—however these manuscripts do represent a desire that fits the climate of 1835–1836 to study and learn languages. Thus this demonstrates that Joseph Smith was both a seer and a scholar and that the early brethren were interested in learning languages as well.

Now despite all the evidence that I suggested to you, I believe that the Book of Abraham carries within itself the divine stamp of its own authenticity. I believe that with all my heart that we don’t need this. We don’t need to have this as some sort of supporting evidence. Just as the Savior told his critics that they would not “be persuaded though one rose from the dead” (Luke 16:31), so the Lord in Joseph’s time warns, “Behold, if they will not believe my words, they would not believe you, my servant Joseph, if it were possible that you should show them all things which I have committed unto you” (D&C 5:7). Isn’t that the truth? It’s exactly the way it is.

So I testify that the Book of Abraham is the word of God. I don’t need this evidence to prove that, but if that’s not how it works it’s because the Holy Spirit of God has witnessed to me the truthfulness of the prophetic calling of Joseph Smith and all he brought forth by the gift and power of God. This I know, and testify, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, amen.

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Authentic Ancient Names and Words in the Book of Abraham and Related Kirtland Egyptian Papers

2005 FAIR Conference

Authentic Ancient Names and Words in the Book of Abraham

and Related Kirtland Egyptian Papers

John Tvedtnes 5 August 2005

John Tvedtnes is senior resident scholar at the BYU Institute for the Study and Preservation of Ancient Religious Texts. He earned a BA in anthropology, a graduate certificate in Middle East area studies, an MA in linguistics, and an MA in Hebrew at the University of Utah and did postgraduate work at the University of California (Berkeley) and the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He taught for seventeen years at the University of Utah and the Salt Lake and Jerusalem centers of Brigham Young University. He has published nine books and more than 200 articles. While many of his writings have appeared in books, magazines, and journals for a Latter-day Saint audience, some of his works have been published by the University of Utah, the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, the Pontifical Biblical Institute, and the Journal of Near Eastern Studies. He is a convert to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and has served in numerous positions, including a full-time mission in France and Switzerland and stake and district missions in Utah and Israel.

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JOHN TVEDTNES: Over the last century a number of scholars have looked at names and other transliterated words in the Book of Abraham and in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers in an attempt to determine their authenticity. In some cases it can be demonstrated that the name is actually attested in Ancient Near Eastern documents. For unattested names it is sometimes possible to postulate an etymology based on known words in Egyptian and other ancient languages in use in the time of Abraham.

While I can claim credit for some of the work contained in my presentation today, it is appropriate to acknowledge that I’ve drawn upon research by various others such as Hugh Nibley, A. Richards Durham, Robert F. Smith, John Gee and John

M. Lundquist. Indeed one of the most thorough researchers of the Book of Abraham onomasticon is Robert F. Smith most of whose contribution is embodied in a series of unpublished manuscripts that he shared with me during the 1960s and ‘70s. I’ve mentioned some of his research in previous publications. I must

acknowledge however that I’ve added my own contributions and I’m the only one who can really be faulted for any mistakes here.

One of the primary sources of the names used in this study is of course the Book of Abraham as published in our Pearl of Great Price. These names have been carefully compared with the forms as found in the four extant handwritten manuscripts of the Book of Abraham, one of which you see on the left here, that’s held in the LDS Church Archives.

Joseph Smith’s explanation to the Facsimiles, published with the Book of Abraham though not part of the text itself, are another source of names. The third source comprises various handwritten documents prepared in Joseph Smith’s day and known collectively as the Kirtland Egyptian Papers. There are ten such documents and some of them are multi-page, this includes the notebook entitled Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language; a smaller handmade notebook called Valuable Discovery of Hidden Records; and another notebook entitled

F.G.W. and William standing evidently for Frederick G. Williams and probably William Lyon Phelps; along with other loose sheets a few of which comprise Egyptian texts copied by one or more of the scribes but with no English commentary at all. This is something that John Gee loves because he can work with those. Some of the latter include material copied from papyri that are not currently extant. Because they provide no information on names they are excluded from this present study.

Some of the names that interest us relate to ancient Egypt itself and to people who were among the earliest rulers thereof.

Abraham 1:23 and 25 notes that the founder of Egypt was the daughter of Noah’s son Ham named Egyptus. It has long been noted that in the earliest handwritten manuscripts the name is written Zeptah which you can see here. As A. Richards Durham noted some years ago both forms derive from one of the Egyptian names for the capital city of Lower Egypt Memphis which was ît-kA-Ptaú ‘ (if you don’t put in the right vowels) meaning the “Residence of the spirit of Ptaú”—the name appears even in that form on a Ugaritic tablet.

When the Greeks came to Egypt in the time of Alexander the Great, they had to modify the name in order to pronounce it in their own language. Greek had no ‘h’ sound so they simply dropped the consonant at the beginning and the end of the name itself.

The ‘t’ had already been dropped from the end of the word for ‘residence’ which is how it is in Coptic—it’s ‘a’—often the feminine ending dropped off of those in later forms of the Egyptian language. Instead of unvoiced ‘k’ the Greeks used its

voiced equivalent the ‘g’ sound. Finally they added the masculine singular suffix ‘os’, this gave them the form Aigyptos which became Aegyptus in Latin. And this is the origin of course of the name Egyptus as used in the printed versions of the Book of Abraham and the English form of the name of the country itself Egypt.

Ptaú whose name appears as the last element in the Egyptian form was the creator god in the story told of the ancient city of Memphis. Zeptah, the form used originally by Joseph Smith, likely means “Son or daughter of Ptaú.” The Egyptian has it as, here I’ve written it as the masculine on the upper left hand side there you can see, (inaudible) which would be the feminine. The feminine however later on dropped the ‘t’ so it’s easier to pronounce it and they both look alike or both sound alike in later forms of Egyptian. But the Hebrew- if it has a Hebrew meaning it would’ve been understood as Zeh Ptaú “This is Ptaú”—in other words this is the god Ptaú or the discoverer of Egypt.

Indeed earlier Egyptologists translated the ‘s’ as a ‘z’ and so if we pronounce this as the Egyptian, ‘zeh’ instead of ‘sa’ that would fit with the way they used to transliterate it.

As in most Hebrew words, the feminine suffix was often dropped in later forms of Egyptian. In the Egyptian text known as Astarte and the Sea the goddess Astarte, corresponding to the Egyptian goddess Isis or Isis(?), is actually called (inaudible) in other words “the daughter of Ptaú” so she has that very title.

The Semitic verb Ptah means to open, to discover. The Egyptians held that the Temple at Memphis was constructed on the first piece of land rising from the floodwaters and the same tradition was attached to various other spots where temples were built along the Nile.

An Armenian text attributed to the 4th century A.D. Christian historian Eusebius declares that ‘Egypt is called Mizraim(?) by the Hebrews’—which is close, in Hebrew it’s Mitzraim but he came close considering that it was Greek translated into Armenian—‘and Mizraim lived not long after the flood for after the flood, Ham son of Noah begat Egyptus or Mizraim who was the first to set out to establish himself in Egypt at the time when the tribes began to disperse this way and that.’ Here we have Egyptus then being a man.

A similar account is found in Abraham 1:23-24 except that here it’s a woman:

      1. The land of Egypt being first discovered by a woman, who was the daughter of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden;
      2. When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and thus, from Ham, sprang that race.

So, I should make one point here before we move on though because somebody is probably going to look at this and then say, ‘Well why is it that you said then- why does the Book of Abraham say that it means ‘forbidden’ in Chaldean? Well my guess is that it’s analogous to what happens in Russia. Does anybody know how the word ‘Mormon’ is used in Russia? They heard about the Mormons in the United States and these were bad people because all the books they ever had on it were anti-Mormon. We start sending missionaries to Russia, the Soviet Union almost- after 1989. These missionaries come in and they said, ‘We’re Mormons’ and people say, ‘Oh you’re those awful people.’ But other people in Russia have been called Mormons for some time, it’s a group of evil-doers they say and so they’ve used the term ‘Mormon’ meaning evil-doers instead of more good if some of you like that better explanation.

Hugh Nibley has dealt with the Egyptian traditions about the goddess who discovered Egypt rising out of the floodwaters. In one text she is called ‘the daughter of Ptaú’ which, as noted above, is one possible meaning of the name ‘Zeptah’. In some accounts she is Isis, sister-wife to Osiris—both sister and wife—and mother of Horus the first king of Egypt making one wonder if Egyptus married her own brother, Mizraim who is the son of Ham mentioned in the Bible and after whom Egypt takes its name in Hebrew.

Nibley draws attention to the account of Herakleides, which was unavailable to Joseph Smith, who wrote “It was first a woman named Aegyptia who established her son and introduced weaving. Because of her, the Egyptians set up an image of Athena,” the Greek goddess, “as Ephorus says in his work on Europa.”1

About 440 B.C. the Greek historian Herodotus wrote that the Egyptian priests “told me that the first man who ruled over Egypt was Min, and that in his time all Egypt, except the Thebaic canton,” that’s Thebes, “was a marsh, none of the land below Lake Moeris then showing itself above the surface of the water.”2

In his Chronicle, the 6th century A.D. Christian historian John Malalas wrote that, “the first king of Egypt belonged to the tribe of Ham, Noah’s son, he was pharaoh who was called Neko.” While Malalas evidently confused the pharaoh of Abraham’s time with the pharaoh Neko of the 6th century B.C.—the time of King Josiah—it is interesting that Abraham 1:20-21 notes that “Pharaoh signifies king by royal blood. Now this king of Egypt was a descendant from the loins of Ham, and was a partaker of the blood of the Canaanites by birth.”

One of the Kirtland Egyptian Papsers notes that Abraham “was forewarned of God to go down into Ahmehstrah, or Egypt, and preach the gospel unto the Ahmehstrahans.” The word may be related to the Hebrew Mizraim—it sounds a

bit like it. The name for Egypt and for one of Ham’s sons who is the eponymous ancestor of the Egyptians in Genesis 10 and 1 Chronicles 1.

The Hebrew is actually a dual form, as reflected by the suffix ‘aim’—so Mizraim really means two Egypts if you will due to the fact that ancient Egypt was considered to be comprised of two parts—Upper and Lower Egypt—that were subsequently united.

Eusebius declared that Mizraim was indeed the founder of the Egyptian race and from him the first Egyptian dynasty must be held to spring.

As noted earlier, Eusebius also identified Egyptus with Mizraim. If, as the Book of Abraham says, Egyptus was a daughter of Ham rather than a son, it is possible that she married her brother just as the Egyptian traditions have. Isis marries her brother Osiris; and from them would derive the Hebrew name of Egypt. This would explain the Egyptian myths about Osiris the god who actually ruled Egypt anciently marrying his sister and that was followed by some of the pharaohs.

In fact some of the pharaohs in order to make sure that they were marrying into the royal line married not only their sisters but sometimes their daughters and I know of at least one case where one married his mother. It’s really a strange idea from our point of view but it was perfectly normal in their days, they wanted to preserve this particular line.

The term ‘Rahleenos’ is found in Abraham 1:14 and indicates that it means ‘hieroglyphics’ referring to one of the writing systems used in ancient Egypt. The word ‘hierogluphikos’ is Greek and means sacred or priestly writing. Perhaps it equates to Egyptian ‘Ra-nes’ which would mean the “tongue/language or speech of Ra”—Ra being the Egyptian sun god and head of the pantheon in the city of On or Heliopolis ‘Sun city’ (not Arizona—Egypt). (Laughter)

(I should apologize for those who know how Egyptian is written but the fonts I use will not let me stack these properly so you have to read it all the way across the line.)

The Egyptian ‘n’ often corresponds to the Semitic ‘l’. The same is true also of the ‘r’; the Egyptian ‘r’ is sometimes used for the Semitic ‘l’ when it transliterates Semitic words, Hebrew, Canaanite, whatever. And, in fact, sometimes the two are used together to denote an ‘l’.

So when we look at ‘nes’ here from the Egyptian it could easily be ‘las’ ‘ras’ any of those, lāšōn (Hebrew), lisān (Arabic), I believe to be cognate with the Egyptian word. On the surface this Egyptian explanation does seem to fail because

Abraham 1:14 says that the system of Egyptian characters called ‘figures’ in that passage “is called by the Chaldeans Rahleenos, which signifies hieroglyphics.” So according to the Book of Abraham these are actually Chaldean, this is a Chaldean name not the Egyptian name but one of the manuscripts of the Book of Abraham says it was called that by the Egyptians and then the word Egyptian is crossed out and Chaldean is written above it. So it seems to me that originally it was perhaps intended to denote Egyptian.

A number of Latter-day Saint scholars have taken in hand to provide ancient etymologies for the names of the Egyptian gods inscribed in the Book of Abraham. The earliest was Hugh Nibley followed—actually there were some who did it before him—followed in the late 1960s and early 1970s by Robert F. Smith, whose work though mostly unpublished has, in my opinion, stood the test of time.

John Gee and others have more recently reexamined the names and come to similar conclusions. John M. Lundquist also noted that each of the gods or idols mentioned in Abraham 1:17 appears in the compilation of some 3,800 Mesopotamian deities published in 1950 by Anton Deimel.3 Many of these names are Akkadian a Semitic language related to Hebrew and more distantly to Egyptian.

Critics often dismiss the four gods depicted below the lion couch in Facsimile 1 of the Book of Abraham as mere canopic jars in which the viscera of a diseased person were placed during the mummification process. They put the heart and the viscera in there; the only part of the body they threw away and did not mummify was the brain. They didn’t know that’s what made you think, in fact they extracted the brain—they had a little hooked instrument they put up through the nostril and they’d pull the brain out piece by piece. The procedure is very similar to abortion by the way. Scary huh? Well at least if you’re dead you don’t feel it.

While it’s true that these were canopic jars and that the various body parts were placed in them, these do depict the four gods known as the sons of Horus though one text calls them the sons of Osiris and indeed in Facsimile 2, Fig. 6, which I have here in an insert, Joseph Smith describes them as representing “this earth in its four quarters.” Some of the sons of Horus were in fact associated with the cardinal directions and we’ll see this in our description of each of them.

There was a kind of a strange thing going on in 1912 with the Reverend Spalding who asked several Egyptologists to comment on this and Samuel A.B. Mercer came back and he said, ‘Oh he doesn’t know what he’s talking about this Joseph Smith. These aren’t the four quarters of the earth; these are the four cardinal directions not quarters. It’s a real difference.’ However another Egyptologist

Budge whom some of you have heard of also he used- he translated it as quarters- “four quarters” instead of four cardinal directions.

Well let’s look at each of them. The god whose name is rendered ‘Elkenah’ in the published versions of Abraham 1:6-7, 13, 17, 20 and 29 appears with variant spellings in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers. In two of the manuscripts it is always spelled ‘Elkkene’. This is also the spelling in another of the manuscripts where it was changed later to ‘Elkenah’, that was mss 4 just prior to publication it was changed from ‘Elkkene’ to ‘Elkenah’ and that was the version that was published.

This to me suggests that ‘Elkkene’ more closely approximates the way Joseph Smith intended to transliterate it. Robert F. Smith noted that the form ‘Elkkene’ seems to correspond with the form of El-kuni-ir§a “El, the maker of the of the earth” which is found in the Hittite text. It’s actually a Canaanite title of the God El; it’s in the text about Asherah. It’s also known in the Phoenician title ‘l qen `r§ “El, creator of the earth” together with the name baalshemayon(sp?) which means “the lord of heaven”, so it parallels that in an eighth century manuscript from the Phoenician king Azzitawatah. The title clearly corresponds to the Hebrew El- Elyon konei shamayim va-aretz which msseans “El the most high God, creator of heaven and earth.” It’s translated “Possessor” in the King James Version, that’s from Genesis 14:19, 22; and so, the title has been around for a long time.

The Hebrew name Elkanah is found in the Bible (1 Samuel 1:1), it’s a hypocoristic form of the same name that we just mentioned dropping off the ending element of it, the God El, head of the Canaanite pantheon, was identified by the Egyptians with the hawk-headed sun god Ra in their myth of Ra and Isis where he is also called Iry pt tA “Maker of heaven and earth” the same title. The depiction labeled the idolatrous god of Elkenah in Abraham Facsimile 1, Fig. 5, is the Egyptian jackal-headed god who is associated with the East where the sun rises. Indeed the verb denoting the rising of the sun derives from this same root.

John Lundquist has suggested another potential source of the name Elkenah, the Akkadian dIl-gi-na. The d part is just what we call a determinative, it derives from Sumerian and it refers to divine names. You don’t pronounce it though actually but it is written. So here we have the same kind of name that (inaudible) at the beginning is the same as El, it means god also and so his suggestion was that this was the origin of it, this Akkadian name.

Nibley noted the report from Bar-Hebraeus, a medieval Jewish scholar who became a Christian, that in the days of Abraham’s father, Terah, the Egyptians adopted Chaldeism and made an image in honor of Kenos(sp?). Kenos may very well be related here to Elkenah.

The god Libnah is mentioned in Abraham 1:6, 13 and 17. The god identified by this name in Abraham Facsimile 1, Fig. 6, is the falcon-headed Egyptian god who is identified with the West.

Another Egyptian god, the jackal-headed (inaudible), we usually call him Anubis in English. Anubis, who is the jackal god who is called ‘the lord of the west’ and also ‘lord of the white land’—probably “white” because this word lebānāh comes from a word meaning “white”. The jackal is a nocturnal prowler; he goes out by moonlight to find his prey and so is often associated with the moon. One of the Hebrew terms for moon, as we see here, is found in several Bible passages, three of them, it’s lbanah, the feminine form of laban, which you normally read as Laban, the brother of Rebekah in the Bible. The same term lebānāh, meaning “white, or moon”, is used in the medieval Hebrew story of Abraham to denote the moon that Abraham studied in his youth. In the Bible, Laban is one of Abraham’s great nephews while the form Luban from the same root is a place name in records found at Ebla near Abraham’s homeland. The Bible also mentions a Canaanite city named Libnah which is also mentioned on a list of cities conquered by the Egyptian King Thutmose III. So it’s well attested that we have here a moon god if you will.

Deriving from the same root is the name Lebannon, Lbanown in Hebrew, which means “white place”; probably so-called because of the snow that’s atop Mt.

Lebanon. In the Zohar, a medieval Jewish text citing the Song of Solomon in the Old Testament, says of Lebanon that it should be reworded Lbanah thou moon who receivest thy light from the sun. Julius Levy considered Lebanon to derive from the Canaanite moon-god Laban while John Lundquist drew attention, again, to an Akkadian god dLaban, same name—these gods didn’t change much from one country to the other when they spoke similar languages, languages that were related—(inaudible) noted the variant forms of the name of Lebanon: Lbanown in Hebrew, Libnah in Phoenician, Libnana in Assyrian and (inaudible) in Hittite.

The god called Mahmackrah, in the published version of the Book of Abraham, is depicted in Abraham facsimile 1, fig. 7. He’s the baboon-headed god who represented the North—an element perhaps found in his name because the word mútt means “north”. Is it possible that that’s what we have at the beginning of this name? It is possible. The name used in the Book of Abraham however may be related to a Hebrew word, the word mimkār which means “merchandise” since Egypt’s principal trading partners were to the north. Closer in pronunciation however is the Akkadian divine name dMa-mi-hi-rat which is in Deimel’s list again as quoted by Lundquist. A. Richards Durham has actually proposed two possible etymologies that I had not included in this and since I’m saying that now maybe I should add that there are other possibilities that are not included in

today’s presentation, I just didn’t have enough time to get them all together. I expect I’ll do that sometime in the near future.

The god called Korash in the Book of Abraham and depicted in Facsimile 1, Fig. 8, is a human-headed god who represents the South. It is possible that Korash in fact is from the Egyptian kA-rsy which would means “spirit of the south”. Nibley noted that the Egyptian goddess Hathor was worshipped in Saba. Today we call it Yemen, which in fact is a good Arabic-Hebrew name meaning south; and that she was worshipped by the people of Quraish. The Quraish tribe is the tribe that gave birth to the prophet Mohammed and in fact there is one tradition that the person who wanted to kill Abraham, the one who wanted him to be actually slain for not worshipping the pagan gods, was a fellow named Korash. John Lundquist draws attention to another possibility, the Akkadian divine name dKur-ra-su-ur-ur and John Gee has noted also that KArs (and I’m not sure if I spelled that one correctly because I don’t have it written down but I remember you mentioning it) that this is attested in New Kingdom Egypt.

Here’s one of my favorites, funny guy, funny name. The god Shagreel is mentioned only in Abraham 1:9 where he is said to be “the sun.” In this connection, one may perhaps compare the Egyptian hawk-headed god Sokar who is a form of the sun as depicted in fig. 4, facsimile 2, with the addition of the Semitic term El at the end—El meaning of course “God.” More likely, in my opinion, is Robert F. Smith’s identification with the Canaanite (inaudible) “the gates of El” “the gates of God”, a title of the Canaanite god (inaudible) who in the Ugaritic text is called in fact “gate of the sun.” An Akkadian seal impression has Shamash, the sun god, rising between two mountains on each side of which are hinged doors mounted by lions. The Egyptian Sokar is sometimes accompanied by a pair of lion guards and it’s (inaudible), we see them here, that’s the sun god rising between the mountains- between these two- actually they look more like, to me, they look more like cheetahs because they have spots but the face is more like a lion. I think they have a lion’s mane there. Anyway the name (inaudible) means “twin lions” or “twin gates.” The twin lions guarding city gates were known amongst other Ancient Near Eastern peoples including the Hittites who did a lot of that and these later made their way into Western Europe and even into the United States where today they flank the entrances of libraries, museums and other public buildings and of course in Salt Lake City, the human-headed lions that guard the entrance to the Masonic Temple.

We should also compare the title Shagreel with the name Sheariah which in fact means the “gates of Jehovah” ‘yah’ in this case where ‘yah’ is substituted for ‘El.’ Sheariah is in fact found in the Bible, in 1 Chronicles 8:38 and 9:44. So the Hebrew form of the plural, which is not in those two passages, it has the singular

there, would be Sheariel. The Semitic name for ‘gate’ is also known in Egypt by the way in later text because it was borrowed from Canaanite.

The names of celestial bodies are found in the third chapter of Abraham, in the explanation of Facsimile 2 and in the Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar and other Kirtland Egyptian Papers.

The star named Kolob, and it’s called a star, I know that there are some websites that say the Mormons are crazy they think God lives on a planet called Kolob. The passage never says it’s a planet and never says God lives there either; it says it’s closest to where he lives. Anyway the star named Kolob is so-called “because it is near unto me” (Abr. 3:3) or near “the residence” (Fac. 2, Fig. 1) or “throne of God” (Abr. 3:9). Facsimile 2, Fig. 1 describes it as “nearest to the celestial.” This explanation is attractive because it creates a wordplay in the Book of Abraham; a feature known from the underlying Hebrew of both the Old Testament and the Book of Mormon. The wordplay being between “near” and “Kolob” because in fact the word for Kolob can mean near; there are several possibilities to explain and I’m going to talk about those now.

Janne Sjodahl was the first to compare the name with the Arabic qalb “core, marrow, heart, intelligence”, however because ‘l’ and ‘r’ often interchange in Semitic languages, one should also note Arabic QRB “proximity, near, midst” which is cognate to Hebrew qārōb “near” or “close.” Robert F. Smith prefers the latter and notes that it appears in the sense of “near one” as a title of God in Psalm 119:151 where it parallels the word qedem which means the “primeval one” or the “ancient one” (that’s in verse 152). Smith notes that the cognate Ugaritic qurb often refers to the dwelling place of El, the chief God, in the Canaanite pantheon in the expression “midst of the source of the two deeps” where the word rendered “midst” is in fact this same word qurb meaning “near”.

Another possible Hebrew etymology is the Hebrew KLB “dog” originally pronounced kalb just as it is in Arabic. This is used to denote the star Regulus in Arabic while the Syriac, which is also kalb denotes the star Sirius, the brightest star in the heavens. There’s a wonderful article that Dan Peterson, and John Gee, and Matt Roper (I think), were the three who (if I left something off that you can fill it in later) but they wrote a really nice article on Kolob and its place in the sky and what it meant for Abraham.4

In Arabic, this term KLB “dog” also denotes the constellation of Canis Major which is Latin meaning “Great Dog”, we call it the Big Dipper but that’s not what is was called anciently, as the brightest star in the constellation of the Big Dipper, Sirius is called Alpha Canis Majoris which is “number one big dog” or top dog I guess. Another name for the star is Canicula, a Latin word for ‘Little Dog’.

Akkadian sources call Sirius (inaudible) the “dog of the sun”. In ancient Egypt the Nile began to rise at the helical rising of Sirius, that is when it came up just before the sun and bringing the annual torrent of Nile water laden with rich volcanic soil from the south and depositing it on the cultivated land.

I should mention by the way you notice how the one has a ‘q’ the other has a ‘k’? That’s very important, at least in Arabic, it’s not as important in Hebrew but I always try to get my Hebrew students to pronounce the two differently. In Israel they pronounce the two ‘k’ just that- it’s just like a regular ‘k’ in English. But in ancient times they were pronounced quite differently. One is pronounced way in the back of the throat, the other is pronounced farther up and in Arabic they make a big distinction and my reasoning with my students was, if you don’t make the distinction and you speak in Arabic and you want to tell a girl, “I love you with all of my heart” which is the word that’s coming up next, you don’t want to end up saying “I love you with all of my dog.” (Laughter) I think that struck a note with most of them.

So, this is the other one I want to have QLB which is “heart” in Arabic. There are some Egyptian equivalents to that, I didn’t put them up here. There’s a couple of cognates that are related directly to that. In the Sumerian text known as the Descent of Inanna, one of the more ancient texts from the Middle East, the goddess Inana goes down into the Underworld to free her husband Dumuzi who is the god who brings rain during the season of rain, and on the way back to heaven she stops at a place called Kulab which is designated as a tree of some sort. We don’t know why this happens there but there Dumuzi gets to sit on his throne and puts on his royal apparel which he has not been wearing while he’s been in prison.

The term Olea is used to denote the moon in Abraham 3:13. It resembles the Hebrew term yārēaú which is just one of two words meaning “moon” or “month.” Even in English month comes from the word moon by the way, as does Monday— Moon’s Day. The Egyptian word for moon is Iah which is cognate to the Semitic term. In Facsimile 2, Fig. 1, the moon’s name is given differently however, it’s called Floeese. This name is similar to the Kli-flos-is-es that we find in some of the Kirtland Egyptian Papers. Kli makes a lot of sense. Kli is a good Hebrew word, it means a vessel in the sense of a plate or a bowl or even a spoon or a tool, a tool of any kind, a hammer or whatever. The word looks like it is finishing in the name of the Greek goddess, or the Greek form I should say, of the Egyptian goddess Isis; and I have no clue what flos is supposed to mean unless any (inaudible) here could explain that to us. (Laughter) The second one as well, I don’t have a clue on that one but we’ve got some starts here, somebody research that one and give us a report next year.

Shinehah is an interesting one (Abr. 3:13) calls the sun Shinehah which seems to be related to the Hebrew word šānāh which means “year.” The year is defined by the annual circuit of the earth about the sun and to the ancients was determined by where the sun rose each day during the year. The Semitic verbal form means “to change,” that is to change seasons and other changes, or “to repeat” and is the source of the numeral two because you start over—once you finish a cycle you start over again so it’s the second cycle. The Egyptian cognate is the verb šni which is “to encircle, enclose or surround” and the noun from that is šnw which means “circuit or circumference”. From this also we get the name of the ring (inaudible) which is depicted with the little (I don’t think I did that one up there did I? No, I didn’t. Sorry you won’t see that one.) Hugh Nibley followed by Robert F. Smith and Kerry Shirts have suggested that the name Shinehah derives from the Egyptian term plus the Egyptian word ‘heh’ or ‘nhh’ meaning “eternity, or eternal” and so that would be then the “eternal circuit” or as Nibley put it “one eternal round” which book we hope to see soon.

Janne Sjodahl suggested that the name Olaha Shinehah mentioned in Doctrine and Covenants 117:8, from July 8, 1838, is related to the terms for “moon” Olea which we saw a moment ago and Shinehah for the “sun.” These were used as code words in early days of the Church beginning with the first Doctrine and Covenants in 1835.

There are several other terms that are related to the sun in the Book of Abraham materials, I just don’t have time to go into all those and they are not as certain as some of these that I’m looking at.

The explanation to Facsimile 1, Fig. 12 reads (and I’m going to pronounce this correctly) Raukeeyang, the spelling there came from Joseph Smith’s association with his Hebrew teacher Joshua Seixas who transliterated things in this way but anybody who knows that transliteration method knows how the Hebrew word is actually spelled. Anyways the explanation reads, “Raukeeyang, signifying expanse, or the firmament over our heads; but in this case, in relation to this subject, the Egyptians meant it to signify Shaumau, to be high, or the heavens, answering to the Hebrew word, Shaumahyeem.” Which is a dual form—two heavens. This Hebrew word rāqīa does in fact mean expanse. We get the term firmament by a mistake that was made by St. Jerome when he was translating the Bible into Latin, he spelled it- he translated it firmamentum and so it came across that way in later times too. It’s true that the verb raqa(?) can mean to hammer out a sheet of metal like gold and make it a thin sheet but it can mean actually to expand in other ways as well.

The normal Hebrew word for heaven or sky is actually a dual form shemayim

which Joseph Smith here transliterated as you can see. The Arabic cognate is in

the singular, it’s samā as is the Akkadian šāmū, it’s in the singular. Hebrew is the only one that has it in this dual, as far as I know. Mitchell Dahood, a very well- known scholar now deceased from the Pontifical Biblical Institute, probably the only Arab who ever was associated with that group, actually proposed that for Palm 68:4 that instead of reading shemo, which would mean “his name”, the word should read shameh which would be “the heaven” in a singular form.

Abraham 3:13 defines Kokob as “star” and Kokaubeam as “stars, or all the great lights, which were in the firmament of heaven.” When first published in the Times & Seasons, the passage read “Kolob” in error. They’d written Kolob so many times that the typesetter thought that’s what belonged here. The manuscripts however have Kokob corresponding to the Hebrew word that we have written here kōkāb and denotes in the one singular and the other in the plural. The plural is also found two other times in the Book of Abraham and it’s called in Facsimile 2, Fig. 5 and also Abraham 3:16 it lists Kokaubeam or kōkābīm in Hebrew. The correct pronunciation (inaudible) means “the” so it’s “the stars.” Lundquist noted that one of the deities in Deimel’s list was dKakob meaning “star”. Similar, Kakkab is the name of one of the god’s mentioned in the Ebla records discovered in northwestern Syria.

Kae-e-vanrash there’s an interesting one, I’m still scratching my head over parts of this. In Facsimile 2, Fig. 5, we read about Kae-e-vanrash “which is the grand Key, or, in other words, the governing power, which governs fifteen other fixed planets or stars, as also Floeese or the Moon, the Earth and the Sun in their annual revolutions.” The element Kae may here be the Egyptian word kA which we saw earlier meaning “spirit” and the element rash at the end looks very much to me like it’s a Semitic term. In Hebrew rō’š but in Arabic Rās and ra’as (it doesn’t have the should, it has a (inaudible) sound for the cognates in Arabic) and that word means “head, or chief” and so I’m suspecting that that’s what is going on here. Now if I can only figure out what this is in the middle, so if any of you have suggestions send me email.

The Book of Abraham and associated Egyptian Papers mention the names of specific individuals whom Abraham evidently encountered during his brief sojourn in Egypt. Some of them such as Shulem and Olimlah are listed in the explanation of Facsimile 3 while others are found in the Abraham text or other texts associated therewith. I’m not going to go into all those names however.

I’d like to give some ideas on this one, Abraham 1:11 describes Onitah as “one of the royal descent directly from the loins of Ham” whose three daughters were sacrificed because they would not worship the Egyptian gods. The name may be the same as Onitos and Onitas in the Valuable Discovery notebook where there is an ‘s’ at the end instead of the ‘h.’ there he is said to have been king of Egypt

while the chapter 1 of Abraham says he was of the “royal descent.” It may correspond to the name Wenis (or usually pronounced Unas by those who transliterate it from the Egyptian). He was a pharaoh of the 5th dynasty of Egypt. He is not our man however because Unas lived long before Abraham’s time, he lived a few centuries before that, but there is an Egyptian text that indicates that the pharaoh Unas ate the boiled body parts of gods by which most Egyptologists have assumed that it means he was a cannibal—he was eating not gods, but humans and if that be the case it does make it look a little suspicious if this is the guy in whose day his daughters are being offered in sacrifice.

Two related Egyptian terms may give us clues about the meaning of the name Unas. The first is wnwt meaning “priesthood” and the second wnwty meaning “astronomer” both of which play an important role in the Book of Abraham which describes Abraham’s teachings of astronomy to the Egyptians and the rival claims of Abraham and Pharaoh to patriarchal priesthood authority.

The name Katumin also appears in the Valuable Discovery notebook, and the first passage reads, “Katumin, Princess, daughter of On-i-tas [Pharaoh] King of Egypt, who began to reign in the year of the World 2962.” The second reads, “Katumin was born in the 30th year of the reign of her father, and died when she was 28 years old, which was the year 3020.” I’m presuming she was sacrificed but the text doesn’t say that. It also appears in the form of Kah tou mun as an alternative. It may derive from the Egyptian KA-tA-Mn which would be the “spirit of the land of Min.” Min was one of the Egyptian gods; he was a fertility god in fact, who is closely associated with the land. Various classical writers claim that the first king of Egypt was named Mēnēs and that name has often been tied in with the name of the god Min.

A few specific places are named in the Book of Abraham and associated Kirtland Egyptian Papers. Of these, Egypt and Ur of the Chaldees are also known from the biblical account of the life of Abraham.

Here, we’ll look at two important place names associated with Abraham that are not in the Bible because neither place is in Egypt, these names are not derived from the Egyptian language. The plain of Olishem is named in the Abraham 1:10 as the place in Ur of the Chaldees where the Egyptians had erected an altar on which they sacrificed human beings. John L. Lundquist has noted that the name is attested in a record of Naram Sin, a 23rd century B.C. king of Akkad as Ulisum and is listed with the (inaudible) mountains and the city Ebla in northwest Syria not far from Abraham’s homeland.

Akkadian and Hebrew are both part of the Semitic language family by the way and the exchange between the ‘o’ and ‘u’ is well attested in Semitic languages.

Here’s one I kind of like- Kalsiduniash. The name Kalsiduniash is spelled in various ways in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers. In one it appears as chalsidon hish(sp?) and is identified as the land of the Chaldeans. This meaning is also given in another of the text where it is spelled as Za Ki-oan hiash, and also chalsidon hiash(sp?). It appears in other spelling forms as well in those documents.

The ending ‘iash’ is interesting to me. It is known from the name of the Cassite (inaudible) and the names of the Cassite kings of Babylon (inaudible). The Cassites controlled Mesopotamia during the 17th century B.C. This of course post- dates the time of Abraham—he was 20th century B.C.—but it’s hard to ignore the fact that the Cassites called Mesopotamia Kar-Duniash which closely resembles the name found in the Kirtland Egyptian Papers with the interchange of the ‘l’ and the ‘r’ again which are common between Semitic languages and those in the broader language family which includes Egyptian called Afro-asiatic.

A Falasha text called Teezaza Sanbat (Commandment of the Sabbath), Falasha by the way, those are the Black Jews of Ethiopia, in describing Nimrod’s attempt to kill Abraham because he would not worship the idols noted regarding the furnace into which he was tossed, ‘From that day until today it is called (inaudible)’ (which sounds very much like these two- not identical but it’s similar. The name is evidently to be tied to the Akkadian term (inaudible), a people identified with the biblical Chaldeans, or Kasidim in Hebrew, in whose land Abraham lived at the time he was brought for sacrifice. According to the conflict of Adam and Eve, and early Christian texts, among the magi who came to visit the newborn Jesus, one account names Karsundas, king of the East. I have his name at the bottom of the list but look how closely it corresponds to the others. There’s something below the surface here and I’m not quite sure what it is but we’ll continue to work on it.

As we have seen many of the names associated with the Book of Abraham and related documents have valid ancient etymologies. To be sure, there remain unanswered questions particularly about the so-called Alphabet and Grammar but it is hard to ignore the hits in the Book of Abraham. The number of names that are authentically ancient far outnumber those for which we cannot at present establish an etymology making coincidence and improbable explanation. That holds for the names, not necessarily for the words that are found, for example, in the Grammar materials.

Q: Is Rahleenos an authentic Chaldean word and if so does it mean hieroglyphics?

TVEDTNES: As far as I know it is not Chaldean. The term Chaldean is rather confusing anyway. In Joseph Smith’s day the term Chaldean usually referred to

Aramaic. Some of the books of the Old Testament are in Aramaic rather than in Hebrew and some are part Hebrew and part Aramaic.

Daniel, for example, beginning with chapter 2:5 (I think it is) and all the way through to the end of chapter 6 is all in Aramaic. The rest of it is in Hebrew. So does it mean ‘that’ Chaldean? Or does it mean Chaldean the language that was spoken by the people we call Chaldeans? Hard to say because those people spoke Akkadian; that’s what we call it at least. I don’t know what they called it.

But the question isn’t phrased in such a way to really give it a good answer, but as I did mention, the original manuscript does say (inaudible) in Egyptian and as I said, I don’t think it has anything to do with it meaning specifically that in Chaldean whatever that is, but it does make sense if it is the language of god, which would be hieroglyphics—the language of the priests.

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Watch this presentation, including all of the slides, on our Youtube site. Pt. 1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUbp04NFCl0

Pt. 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJk_cNFqE_E

Pt. 3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kff_q7lW5wM&playnext=1&list=PL324F03A81448DE56

Pt. 4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTI8vqbwcA&feature=watch_response_rev

Pt. 5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMykjwISwCo&feature=watch_response_rev

Pt. 6- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFp4CgASwOc&feature=watch_response_rev

[Transcriber’s endnotes.]

1 Hugh Nibley, Abraham in Egypt [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1981], 193 – 194.

2 The Persian Wars by Herodotus, Book 2 – EUTERPE.

3 John Lundquist, “Was Abraham in Ebla?” in Studies in Scripture II: The Pearl of Great Price, ed. Robert

L. Millet and Kent Jackson (Salt Lake City: Randall, 1985).

4 See Astronomy, Papyrus, and Covenant, ed. John Gee and Brian M. Hauglid. Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, Provo, Utah, 2005.

 

Tangible Restoration: The Witnesses and What They Experienced

Opening Remarks

It’s a privilege to be here again. I’m really impressed with what Scott and the other leaders of FAIR have been able to do—for example, to get the previous speaker here. I’m astonished at their influence with the parole board.

Brian told a joke that reminded me of another joke, and probably you’ve heard this one, about the dyslexic, insomniac atheist who stays awake all night wondering if there’s a dog.

I’d like to welcome Claudia Bushman to the ranks of the apologists.

Do Apologists Ever Make Mistakes?

Brian raised the question of whether or not apologists ever make mistakes. I would have disagreed with him until about a week ago, when I made my first. I mistakenly used the obsolete term brontosaurus instead of apatosaurus and was promptly jumped on for it. But I can take it.

Now, I lead off with some jokes because this is going to be an incredibly boring presentation. There are no jokes in it, no insults. But the question you have to ask yourself as you listen is: Is there an acrostic?

So listen very, very carefully.

Reading the Paper

I’d like to thank Mike Ash for helping me out with the PowerPoint. I wasn’t planning to have any, but he decided that I needed it, which is probably true. And so I’m able to look technically—or technologically—literate with his help just today.

I’m going to read this paper, which I normally don’t do, and I apologize for that. I was intimidated by the performance earlier today, so I set about at first to memorize it. And then I thought that I would try to go one better by reciting it to you backwards. But I think I’ll just do it in the orthodox fashion.

There’s just a lot of stuff here, and I want to make sure I don’t leave it out. I feel very strongly about the topic I’m going to be talking about, so please bear with me. I’ll try to make it lively.

My wife said, “Keep me awake,” which may suggest an impossible standard, but I will try.

The Tangible Claims of the Book of Mormon

Joseph Smith’s claims regarding the Book of Mormon seem, at least on the surface, to be very detailed and utterly tangible. They are not mystical claims, but, at least in principle, can be tested in the real world of everyday, physical objects.

And critics have not been reluctant to meet the claim head on. “As for the golden plates,” wrote the evangelical Protestant polemicist G.H. Fraser, “we will say simply that there were not any.”

But the historical evidence suggests—no, it shouts—the contrary.

David Whitmer’s Account of Seeing the Plates

A representative statement is that given by David Whitmer during an 1878 interview with Orson Pratt and Joseph F. Smith:

It was in June, 1829, the latter part of the month . . . Martin Harris was not with us at this time; he obtained a view of [the plates] afterwards (the same day). Joseph, Oliver, and myself were together when I saw them. We not only saw the plates of the Book of Mormon, but also the brass plates [a set of records mentioned early in the Book of Mormon as having been carried by Lehi from Jerusalem to the New World], the plates of the book of Ether, the plates containing the record of the wickedness and secret combinations of the people of the world down to the time of their being engraved, and many other plates.

The fact is, it was just as though Joseph, Oliver and I were sitting just here on a log, when we were overshadowed by a light. It was not like the light of the sun nor like that of a fire, but more glorious and beautiful. It extended away round us, I cannot tell how far, but in the midst of this light about as far off as he sits (pointing to John C. Whitmer, sitting a few feet from him), there appeared, as it were, a table with many records or plates upon it, besides the plates of the Book of Mormon, also the sword of Laban, the directors [i.e. the ball with spindles which Lehi had, and the interpreters].

Joseph Smith’s Reaction to the Three Witnesses

Lucy Mack Smith, who had seen the chosen witnesses leave for their encounter with the angel and the plates, recalled, many years later, the scene that ensued at their return:

When they returned to the house, it was between three and four o’clock P. M. Mrs. Whitmer, Mr. Smith, and myself, were sitting in a bedroom at the time. On coming in, Joseph threw himself down beside me, and exclaimed, “Father, mother, you do not know how happy I am: the Lord has now caused the plates to be shown to three more besides myself. They have seen an angel, who has testified to them, and they will have to bear witness to the truth of what I have said, for now they know for themselves, that I do not go about to deceive the people, and I feel as if I was relieved of a burden which was almost too heavy for me to bear, and it rejoices my soul, that I am not any longer to be entirely alone in the world.”

Upon this, Martin Harris came in: he seemed almost overcome with joy, and testified boldly to what he had both seen and heard. And so did David and Oliver, adding, that no tongue could express the joy of their hearts, and the greatness of the things which they had both seen and heard.

Ultimately, each of the Three Witnesses—Martin Harris, Oliver Cowdery, and David Whitmer—signed his name to a statement that has appeared in every edition of the Book of Mormon from the beginning.

The Testimony of the Three Witnesses

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, their brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken.

And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man.

And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvelous in our eyes.

Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens.

And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.

The Testimony of the Eight Witnesses

According to David Whitmer, the quite distinct experience of the Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon occurred one or two days after the experience of the Three. Soon thereafter, all of the Eight signed their names to a statement that has accompanied the testimony of the Three in every printed version of the Book of Mormon.

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come; That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship.

And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken.

And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.

The Contrasting Experiences of the Witnesses

It is worth examining the contrasting character of the experiences reported by the Three Witnesses and the Eight, since, I believe, their very difference reinforces them.

First of all, the experience of the Three, as they report it, was suffused with the glory and power of God. In a brilliant light, an angel came down and showed them the plates. They heard the voice of God testifying that the translation had been accomplished “by the gift and power of God.”

Their written testimony is characterized by a marked religious or spiritual tone. It might be termed a supernatural or miraculous testimony.

The Ordinary Testimony of the Eight Witnesses

By contrast, the experience of the Eight involves no glory, nothing miraculous. It is as mundane as anything can be. No angel shows the plates to them; Joseph Smith does.

There is no miraculous light. Unlike the Three, who seem simply to have observed the plates in the hands of the angel, the Eight handled the plates and turned their pages. They “hefted” them.

The language of their official account is cool and even formal or legalistic to the point of emotional distance (“the said Smith”). God figures in their testimony only as witness to their concluding oath. His voice does not testify to the correctness of the translation.

The Eight Witnesses are manifestly in full possession of their senses and mental faculties. Theirs might be labeled an ordinary or natural testimony.

Why the Differences?

Why the differences? In order, I think, for the task of skeptics to be rendered more difficult.

One might be tempted to dismiss the testimony of the Three, with its spectacular divine accompaniments, as hallucinatory (however untenable that dismissal would be) or mere superstition. By contrast, there is absolutely nothing in the testimony of the Eight that points to superstition or hallucination. It is the most matter-of-fact kind of experience—nine men in the woods in the early afternoon—except for the object at the center of it.

On the other hand, if one were to approach the Witnesses first by way of the Eight and one were inclined to skepticism, one might be tempted to write their experience off as deception by Joseph Smith or by some other conspirator or group of conspirators. There must really have been plates—fabricated to deceive.

But this doesn’t account for the testimony of the Three, which goes beyond fabrication and involves a number of additional objects.

In other words, a single explanation seems unable to account for the two very different kinds of experience. This means that skeptics who wish to explain the two testimonies away must resort to some unlikely combination of sincere hallucination, already unlikely in and of itself, and deliberate, insincere fabrication. Or, as we shall see, they must attempt to collapse the difference between the two.

James Jesse Strang and His Witnesses

Let us examine a case that critics often cite as a parallel to Joseph Smith and his Witnesses:

Forgery is the virtually certain explanation for the two sets of inscribed metal plates that James Jesse Strang said he had found in Wisconsin and Michigan (between 1845 and 1849) and translated. Strang, who claimed to have a letter of appointment from Joseph Smith, announced himself as Joseph Smith’s successor and was clearly seeking to imitate the Prophet.

That his plates really existed is beyond serious dispute. The first set, the three “Voree” or “Rajah Manchou” plates, were dug up by four “witnesses” whom Strang had brought to the appropriate site. Inscribed on both sides with illustrations and “writing,” the Rajah Manchou plates were roughly 1.5 by 2.75 inches in size—small enough to fit in the palm of a hand or to carry in a pocket.

Among the many who saw them was Stephen Post, who reported that they were brass and, indeed, that they resembled the French brass used in familiar kitchen kettles.

“With all the faith & confidence that I could exercise,” he wrote, “all that I could realize was that Strang made the plates himself, or at least that it was possible that he made them.”

One not altogether reliable source reports that most of the four witnesses to the Rajah Manchou plates ultimately repudiated their testimonies.

The “Plates of Laban”

The eighteen “Plates of Laban,” likewise of brass and each about 7 3/8 by 9 inches, were first mentioned in 1849 and, in 1851, were seen by seven witnesses.

Their testimony appeared at the front of The Book of the Law of the Lord, which Strang said he translated from the “Plates of Laban.” (Work on the translation seems to have begun at least as early as April 1849. An 84-page version appeared in 1851; by 1856, it had reached 350 pages.)

The statement of Strang’s witnesses speaks of seeing the plates, but mentions nothing of any miraculous character. Nor did Strang supply any second set of corroborating testimony comparable to that of the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

One of the witnesses to the “Plates of Laban,” Samuel P. Bacon, eventually denied the inspiration of Strang’s movement and denounced it as mere “human invention.” Another, Samuel Graham, later claimed that he had assisted Strang in the fabrication of the “Plates of Laban.”

The well-read Strang had been an editor and lawyer before his brief affiliation with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and his subsequent career as a schismatic leader.¹

Strang’s Plates Compared with the Book of Mormon Witnesses

Thus, Strang’s plates were much less numerous than those associated with Joseph Smith, his witnesses saw nothing supernatural, his translation required the better part of a decade rather than a little more than two months, and, unlike the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon, Strang’s witnesses did not remain faithful to their testimonies.

Milo Quaife, in his early, standard biography of Strang, reflected that “It is quite conceivable that Strang’s angelic visitations may have had only a subjective existence in the brain of the man who reported them. But the metallic plates possessed a very material objective reality.”

If we are unwilling to accept The Book of the Law of the Lord as authentically divine, he says, “we can hardly escape the conclusion . . . that Strang knowingly fabricated and ‘planted’ them for the purpose of duping his credulous followers” and, accordingly, that “Strang’s prophetic career was a false and impudent imposture.”²

Roger Van Noord, Strang’s most recent biographer, concludes that, “Based on the evidence, it is probable that Strang—or someone under his direction—manufactured the letter of appointment and the brass plates to support his claim to be a prophet and to sell land at Voree. If this scenario is correct, Strang’s advocacy of himself as a prophet was more than suspect, but no psychological delusion.”

The Sincerity of the Book of Mormon Witnesses

It seems that virtually every reputable writer on the subject now grants the sincerity and honesty of all or most of the Book of Mormon Witnesses.

A few critics argue that the printed testimonies don’t really represent what the Witnesses said. “I want Non-LDS to know,” wrote one recent poster on an internet message board,

that regardless of the three witnesses of the Book of Mormon and the eight witnesses of the Book of Mormon—not a single witness ever touched the plates with their own hands and never saw the plates with their own eyes. When Martin Harris and Oliver Cowdrey supposedly had visions of the Book of Mormon for their testimony – only Joseph Smith wrote their testimony down in the Book of Mormon.

But the testimonies have been published with the Book of Mormon ever since that first edition in 1830, which, since it was prepared under the careful supervision of Oliver Cowdery (one of the Three) and Hyrum Smith (one of the Eight), seems to imply their endorsement of those statements.

Consistent with this, a correspondent for the Salem [Massachusetts] Advertiser and Argus reported in 1843 having heard Hyrum “declare, in this city in public, that what is recorded about the plates, &c. &c. is God’s solemn truth.”⁴

The Witnesses Reaffirm Their Published Testimonies

Moreover, there are far too many recorded testimonies from the other Witnesses for this to be a plausible escape.

For example, E. C. Brand visited John Whitmer, one of the Eight, in 1875, and recorded that Whitmer “declared that his testimony, as found in the ‘Testimony of Eight Witnesses,’ in the Book of Mormon, is strictly true.”⁵

In 1876, Whitmer told Mark Forscutt, “I have never heard that any one of the three, or eight witnesses ever denied the testimony that they have borne to the Book as published in the first edition of the Book of Mormon.”⁶

And, later that same year, referring to the published testimony, he told Heman C. Smith, “That testimony was, is, and will be true, henceforth and forever.”⁷

And, finally, in 1877, the year prior to his death, he wrote “concerning my testimony as recorded in the Book of Mormon” that “It is the Same as it was from the beginning, and it is true.”⁸

Were the Witnesses’ Experiences Non-Literal?

Today’s attack on the Witnesses focuses, instead, on the alleged non-literalness of their experience. Dan Vogel is the principal source for this newly popular way of dismissing their testimony.

For example, in his 2002 essay on “The Validity of the Witnesses’ Testimonies,” he attempts to discredit the witnesses by portraying them as alienated from empirical reality and as having merely imagined the plates of the Book of Mormon, or seen them in a subjective hallucination.

The ‘Literal’ Nature of the Lives of the Witnesses

I’ve commented elsewhere on how bizarre it is to me that the witnesses, a group of early nineteenth-century farmers who spent their lives:

  • rising at sunrise,
  • pulling up stumps,
  • clearing rocks,
  • plowing fields,
  • sowing seeds,
  • carefully nurturing crops,
  • raising livestock,
  • milking cows,
  • digging wells,
  • building cabins,
  • raising barns,
  • harvesting their own food,
  • bartering (in an often cashless economy) for what they could not produce themselves,
  • wearing clothes made from plant fibers and skins,
  • anxiously watching the seasons, and
  • walking or riding animals out under the weather until they retired to their beds shortly after sunset in “a world lit only by fire,”

The Disconnect of Modern People to ‘Reality’

are being portrayed as estranged from everyday empirical reality by people whose lives, like mine, consist to a large extent of:

  • staring at computer and television screens in artificially air-conditioned and artificially lit homes and offices,
  • clothed in synthetic fibers,
  • commuting between the two in enclosed and air-conditioned mechanical vehicles
  • while they listen to the radio,
  • chat on their cell phones, and
  • fiddle with their iPods—all of whose inner workings are largely mysterious to them—
  • who buy their prepackaged food (with little or no regard for the time or the season)
  • by means of plastic cards and electronic financial transfers
  • from artificially illuminated and air-conditioned supermarkets
  • enmeshed in international distribution networks of which they know virtually nothing,

the rhythms of whose daily lives are largely unaffected by the rising and setting of the sun.

Lester Grabbe and the “Spiritual Eyes” Argument

Yet Dan Vogel’s view of the Witnesses has recently been given wider currency in an article published by the non-Mormon biblical scholar Lester Grabbe, who commendably seeks to show that Joseph Smith’s story can illuminate ancient Hebrew prophecy.

Unfortunately, Professor Grabbe’s discussion is totally dependent upon Vogel and wholly uninformed by any exposure to the work of the leading authority on the Witnesses, Richard Lloyd Anderson.

Grabbe readily grants the sincerity of Martin Harris and David Whitmer, but also declares that “it seems that no one saw the plates uncovered except Smith himself.”⁹

“Both Martin Harris and David Whitmer of the Three Witnesses,” he writes,

while continuing to affirm their belief in the Book of Mormon, also stated that they had seen the plates “in spirit” or with “spiritual eyes” or in vision. As far as they were concerned, this was no less real than seeing them with ordinary eyes, but to non-Mormons this distinction is likely to be important.¹⁰

Did Martin Harris See the Plates With His Bodily Eyes?

Professor Grabbe cites the Rev. John A. Clark’s recollection of an unnamed attorney’s alleged recollection of an alleged statement from Martin Harris:

A gentleman in Palmyra, bred to the law, a professor of religion, and of undoubted veracity told me that on one occasion, he appealed to Harris and asked him directly,–“Did you see those plates?” Harris replied, he did.

“Did you see the plates, and the engraving on them with your bodily eyes?” Harris replied, “Yes, I saw them with my eyes,–they were shown unto me by the power of God and not of man.”

“But did you see them with your natural,–your bodily eyes, just as you see this pencil-case in my hand? Now say no or yes to this.”

Harris replied,–“Why I did not see them as I do that pencilcase, yet I saw them with the eye of faith; I saw them just as distinctly as I see any thing around me,–though at the time they were covered over with a cloth.

The Eight Witnesses and a “Spiritual” Experience

And yet, Professor Grabbe acknowledges,

The situation with the Eight Witnesses is more complex, and some continue to assert that these members of the Whitmer family and others saw and handled the plates in a purely physical context. Some of the testimony certainly gives this impression, but we have a few later interviews with most of the Eight Witnesses. There is some evidence that their experience was also “spiritual” or “visionary” or whatever one might wish to call it.¹²

How did the Witnesses come to “see” the plates?

Thomas Ford, the former governor of Illinois, “who,” Grabbe assures us, actually “knew many Mormons,” explains it all by means of an account of the experience of the Eight Witnesses. “Unfortunately,” as Grabbe concedes, “he does not give his sources and he has some of the names slightly wrong.”¹³

He [Joseph Smith] set them to continual prayer, and other spiritual exercises, to acquire this lively faith by means of which the hidden things of God could be spiritually discerned; and, at last, when he could delay them no longer, he assembled them in a room [Lucy Mack Smith says it was a grove near their house], and produced a box, which he said contained the precious treasure.

The lid was opened; the witnesses peeped into it, but making no discovery, for the box was empty, they said, “Brother Joseph, we do not see the plates.”

The prophet answered them, “O ye of little faith! how long will God bear with this wicked and perverse generation? down on your knees, brethren, every one of you, and pray God for the forgiveness of your sins, and for a holy and living faith which cometh down from heaven.”

The disciples dropped to their knees, and began to pray in the fervency of their spirit, supplicating God for more than two hours with fanatical earnestness, at the end of which time, looking again into the box, they were now persuaded that they saw the plates.

I leave it to philosophers to determine whether the fumes of an enthusiastic and fanatical imagination are thus capable of blinding the mind and deceiving the senses by so absurd a delusion.¹⁴

An Ex-Mormon Message Board Explanation

An even more entertaining version of this theory appeared on an ex-Mormon message board just a few days ago:

I used to tease my kids……………….. I would take my coat or a towel or a blanket and gather it up in the crook of my arm. Then I would stick my face down into it and make a whimpering sound like a puppy. Then I would make a petting motion. My little kids would see what was going on and GUESS what? they wanted to see the puppy!

Of course I refused to let them see the puppy because there was not one. Then I would walk into another room and the kids would follow demanding to see the puppy. I would run into another room, the kids would follow, but by then the puppy was gone! I would claim to have hidden the puppy.

The kids would go crazy trying to find the puppy. it was great fun, but as my kids got a little older they finally caught on. The trick no longer worked. When I tried it on their younger cousins my kids would scoff and give away the secret right off……. to any youngster who would listen!

Why was it a puppy? Because

  • A. I said so
  • B. Because I could make the sound of a puppy,
  • C. Kids like puppies.
  • D. A puppy would fit under the cover.

I never claimed to have a rabid grizzly bear or adult crocodle under the wrap for the inverse of all the reasons stated above.

…………How convenient that THE Gold plates were “Gold” instead of wood or zinc or stone. How convenient that they were a certain size and that they dissappeared and that only Joe could read them! How convenient for the blood sucking scum that currently runs the Mormon corporation today that so many TBM adults are dumb as preschoolers about certian things . . .

John Whitmer and the Physical Plates

Professor Grabbe cites a passage from Vogel that cites an account of an encounter between Theodore Turley and John Whitmer:

Whitmer asked, “do you hint at me?” [Turley replied], “if the caps fits you, wear it.” all I know, you have published to the world that an angel did present those plates to Joseph Smith.”

[Whitmer replied] “I now say I handled those plates. there was fine engravings on both sides. I handled them.” and he described how they were hung, “and they were shown to me by a supernatural power.” he acknowledged all.¹⁵

Then he cites Vogel’s introduction to that account, which declares that “it seem [sic] to imply that while Whitmer’s handling of the plaes [sic] (perhaps in a box or through a covering) was physical, his seeing the plates was visionary.”¹⁶

But I am at a loss to understand how Whitmer’s alleged statement that the plates were “shown to [him] by a supernatural power” (which, incidentally, is difficult to reconcile with the numerous other accounts from John Whitmer), even if taken at face value, can be translated so easily into the idea that “his seeing of the plates was visionary.”

Stephen Burnett’s Account

Grabbe also cites the notorious testimony of the disaffected nineteenth-century Mormon Stephen Burnett, which makes an even bigger leap:

I have reflected long and deliberately upon the history of this church & weighed the evidence for & against it—loth to give it up—but when I came to hear Martin Harris state in a public [sic] that he never saw the plates with his natural eyes only in vision or imagination, neither Oliver [Cowdery] nor David [Whitmer] & also that the eight witnesses never saw them & hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but were persuaded to do it, the last pedestal gave way, in my view our foundations was sapped & the entire superstructure fell a heap of ruins.

Professor Grabbe’s Conclusion

Professor Grabbe swallows Dan Vogel’s line without no reservation whatever. “In the end,” he says, “it appears that the only one who saw the plates directly was Joseph Smith himself. Even this situation could be doubted.”¹⁸

My wife fears that I have nothing original to say today, and she’s probably right. Richard Lloyd Anderson, the foremost authority on this subject and the author of, among other things, the classic Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses, has addressed this topic in an important recent article in the FARMS Journal of Book of Mormon Studies entitled, straightforwardly enough, “Attempts to Redefine the Experience of the Eight Witnesses.”

But, frankly, originality doesn’t much matter to me on this matter. I wish, at the least, to register a vigorous protest against what seems to me to have become unquestioned but baseless orthodoxy, in certain quarters, about the Witnesses.

Were the Witnesses Gullible?

They are often portrayed, now, by critics, as gullible fools, unable to distinguish reality from fantasy, easily duped. And Martin Harris is their parade example. But this falsifies and misrepresents the facts.

True to his reputation as a careful, prudent man, Martin Harris initially approached the claims of Joseph Smith with hope but also with cautious skepticism. It was Harris who took a transcript of characters from the plates to New York City, for the evaluation of Professor Charles Anthon of Columbia University, and others.

And, while he was serving as Joseph’s first scribe for the translation, he once surreptitiously substituted a similar-looking stone for the seerstone that the Prophet was using, in order to see if it made any difference. (It did.)

At one point, he lifted the box in which the plates were allegedly concealed, to see what he could determine. “I knew from the heft,” he recalled, “that they were lead or gold, and I knew that Joseph had not credit enough to buy so much lead.”

Martin Harris Investigates Joseph Smith’s Claims

He cross-examined “Joseph, his wife, brothers, sisters, his father and mother. I talked with them separately, that I might get the truth of the matter.”

One day, he arrived when Joseph was away from home.

“I was glad he was absent,” Harris reminisced, “for that gave me an opportunity of talking with his wife and the family about the plates. I talked with them separately, to see if their stories agreed, and I found they did agree.”

Did Martin Harris think his experience as a Witness was real?

The twenty-five-year old Edward Moroni Thurman ran into Martin Harris at a blacksmith shop, and asked him whether the Book of Mormon was true. Harris responded by asking whether the young man could see an apple tree nearby. His vision of the angel, the plates, and the other objects, he told Thurman, had been as real and factual as the sight of the apple tree.

“Just as Plain as You See That Chopping Block”

When a group of teenagers posed the same question to him, he pointed to a chopping block and asked if they could see it.

“Well, just as plain as you see that chopping block, I saw the plates; and sooner than I would deny it I would lay my head upon that chopping block and let you chop it off.”

To William Pilkington, he said,

Just as sure as You see the Sunshining. Just as sure am I that I stood in The presence of an Angel of God, with Joseph Smith and saw him hold the Gold Plates in his Hands. I also saw the Urim and Thummin [sic], The Breastplate and the Sword of Laban I saw the Angel descend from Heaven. The Heavens were then opened and I heard the voice of God declare, that every thing the Angel had told us was True, and that the Book of Mormon was Translated correct. I was commanded by God’s Voice to testify to the whole world what I had seen and heard.

“Just as Much So as I See You”

Joseph Homer Snow recalled the time that Martin Harris came to have dinner with his family:

Mother asked him these questions: “Did you actually see an angel and hear him speak?”

He said, “Just as much so as I see you and hear you speak.”

“Will you describe how he stood?” Mother asked.

He said, “He stood at least twenty inches off the ground, and he had records in his hand—The Book of Mormon. He turned the leaves and declared that it was the work of the Lord and that it was true. He commanded us to bear that testimony to the world.”

Stephen Burnett plainly misrepresented Martin Harris’s testimony about his own experience: Harris would never have gone along with Burnett’s “only in vision,” let alone with the notion that his experience was merely “imaginary.”

So why should we trust Burnett’s account of Harris’s alleged account of the experience of the other Witnesses? After all, Harris’s supposed claim that the other Witnesses were reluctant to endorse their published testimony is, on the basis of evidence to which we’ve already alluded, extremely suspect.

Martin Harris’s Final Testimony

In a notarized statement dated 29 October 1921, George Godfrey, who prepared Martin Harris’s grave in Clarkston, Utah, summarized his lengthy acquaintance with the Witness. Then he offered this interesting statement:

Prior to his death and in his last sickness I sat up nights with him upon many an occasion, in connection with my Brothers, John E. Godfrey and Thomas Godfrey, both of whom now reside at Clarkston, aforesaid, and who can make affidavit to the things I am herein stating: that many times I have heard the said Martin Harris bear witness to the truthfulness and genuineness of the Book of Mormon, at times when he was enjoying good health and spirits and when he was on his deathbed; that his testimony never varied;

that I have seen others and that I myself have tried to entrap him relative to the testimony which he bore, by cros [sic] questioning him relative to the scenes and events which are Church History in connection with the bringing forth of the Book of Mormon; that upon all of these questions his mind was clear as it is possible for the human mind to be, and that his testimonies have left no tract [sic] in my mind that he actually converse with an angel who bore testimony to him of the truthfulness of the records contained in the Book of Mormon;

that he saw and handled the gold plates from which the said records were taken; that a few hours before his death, and when he was so weak and enfeebled that he was unable to recognize me or anyone, and knew not to whom he was speaking, I asked him if he did not feel that there was an element, at least, of fraudulence and deception in the things that were written and told of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, and he replied as he had always done, and many, many times in my hearing, and with the same spirit that he always manifested when enjoying health and vigor:

“The Book of Mormon is no fake. I know what I know. I have seen what I have seen, and I have heard what I have heard. I have seen and handled the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon is written. An angel appeared to me and others and testified to the truthfulness of the record, and had I been willing to have perjured myself and sworn falsely to the testimony I now bear, I could have been a rich man, but I could not have testified other than I have done and am now doing, for these things are true.”

Martin Harris’s Testimony

Martin Harris was buried with a copy of the Book of Mormon in his right hand, and a copy of the Doctrine and Covenants in his left.

In a patriarchal blessing given to him by Joseph Smith, Sr., Harris was promised that

thy testimony shall yet convince its thousands and its tens of thousands; yea it shall shine like the sun, and though the wicked seek to overthrow it, it shall be in vain, for the Lord God shall bear it off victorious.

Oliver Cowdery’s Testimony

In 1848, the year before he died, Oliver Cowdery received rebaptism into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at Kanesville, Iowa.

Before an audience of approximately two thousand, including non-members of the Church, Cowdery bore witness of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, the restoration of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods, and the divine calling of Joseph Smith.

“I beheld with my eye and handled with my hands the gold plates from which it was translated. I also beheld the Interpreters. That book is true.”

Cowdery was bedridden for most of 1849, probably as a result of chronic pulmonary tuberculosis, and died at Richmond, Missouri, on 3 March 1850.

“It Was No Dream”

A few months before his death, Cowdery was visited by Jacob Gates, a Latter-day Saint traveling eastward on a mission to England who had been a friend since before Cowdery’s 1838 excommunication.

In the course of conversation, Gates asked him about his experience as one of the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon. Had it been a dream? Was it imagination, or illusion, or mere mythology?

Cowdery rose from the place where he was resting, retrieved a first edition copy of the Book of Mormon, and read aloud the Testimony of the Three Witnesses. Then, turning to face Gates, he said,

Jacob, I want you to remember what I say to you. I am a dying man, and what would it profit me to tell you a lie? I know . . . that this Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God. My eyes saw, my ears heard, and my understanding was touched, and I know that whereof I testified is true. It was no dream, no vain imagination of the mind—it was real.

David Whitmer’s Testimony

David Whitmer lived until 1888, the last of the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon. Consequently, he was the most interviewed of all of them.

“Each witness of the Book of Mormon,” Richard Lloyd Anderson justly observes,

was an individualist. In David Whitmer, this quality verged on the stubborn. Whether in Mormon society or not, he stood like a rock for his principles. This outspoken and utterly honest personality would have been the first to detect fraud and expose it.

Whitmer was excommunicated from the Church on 13 April 1838 after a period of doctrinal disagreement, financial stress, persecution, and upheaval.

Yet when, in 1886, the Omaha Herald asked him whether he “still believed that Joseph Smith was a divinely inspired prophet,” David Whitmer replied, “I know he was, it is not a matter of belief.”

James Henry Moyle Cross-Examines David Whitmer

The young James Henry Moyle, who had just received his law degree from the University of Michigan and was returning home to Utah, took a detour to Richmond, Missouri, for the sole purpose of interviewing David Whitmer.

When he saw the Witness, he implored him to tell the truth. He told Whitmer of the sacrifices that his family had made for the gospel’s sake, driven from state to state and finally pulling a handcart all the way to the arid desert of the Great Basin.

I said to him: “I was born and reared in the Church and I do pray of you to let me know if there is any possibility of your having been deceived. I am just commencing life as you are preparing to lay it down, and I beg of you to tell me if there is anything connected with the testimony which you have borne to the world that could possibly have been deceptive or misunderstood.”

I further said, in an earnest youthful appeal, that I didn’t want to go through life believing in a falsehood, that it was in his power to make known the truth to me.

His answer was unequivocal. There was no question about its truthfulness.

The angel had stood in a little clear place in the woods with nothing between them but a fallen log—the angel on one side and the witnesses on the other. It had all occurred in broad, clear daylight. He saw the plates and heard the angel with unmistakable clearness.

“He was the first witness I ever attempted to cross examine,” Moyle wrote many years later, “and I did so with all the intensity of my impelling desire to know the truth. The interview lasted two and one-half hours.”

The young lawyer, who subsequently served as assistant secretary of the treasury in two federal administrations, came away utterly convinced of David Whitmer’s sincerity.

“I Saw With These Eyes”

Throughout his life, Whitmer insisted that the experience was literal, and physical, not merely imaginary or “spiritual.”

Joseph Smith III, for example, recalled an 1884 exchange between the Witness and a non-Mormon identified as Colonel Giles:

Rather suggestively he asked if it might not have been possible that he, Mr. Whitmer, had been mistaken and had simply been moved upon by some mental disturbance, or hallucination, which had deceived them into thinking he saw the Personage, the Angel, the plates, the Urim and Thummim, and the sword of Laban.

How well and distinctly I remember the manner in which Elder Whitmer arose and drew himself up to his full height — a little over six feet — and said, in solemn and impressive tones: “No, sir! I was not under any hallucination, nor was I deceived! I saw with these eyes and I heard with these ears! I know whereof I speak!’”

“Everything Was as Natural to Us”

In a letter to Anthony Metcalf dated 2 April 1887, Whitmer again insisted on the literal reality of what he had seen:

“Of course we were in the spirit when we had the view, for no man can behold the face of an angel, except in a spiritual view, but we were in the body also, and everything was as natural to us, as it is at any time.”

To Orson Pratt and Joseph F. Smith, nearly a decade earlier, he testified:

I saw [the plates, the Sword of Laban, the Urim and Thummim, and other artifacts] just as plain as I see this bed (striking his hand upon the bed beside him), and I heard the voice of the Lord, as distinctly as I ever heard anything in my life, declaring that the records of the plates of the Book of Mormon were translated by the gift and power of God.”

“I saw them as plain as I see you now,” he told a reporter from the Kansas City Journal in 1881.

He frequently emphasized that the angel and the table on which the plates and other objects rested was very close to him and the other Witnesses, within about three to six feet.

“Mr. Whitmer describes every detail of the ‘vision’ with great precision,” reported the Omaha Herald in 1886, “and much fervency.”

  1. Wilhelm Poulson interviewed David Whitmer in 1878. When Poulson asked him if the Eight Witnesses did not “handle the plates,” Whitmer replied, **“We did not, but they did.”**¹⁹

David Whitmer’s Dying Testimony

The 26 January 1888 issue of the Richmond Conservator reported on the last days of David Whitmer in memorable detail:

On Sunday evening before his death he called the family and his attending physician, Dr. George W. Buchanan, to his bedside, and said “Doctor do you consider that I am in my right mind?” to which the Doctor replied, “Yes, you are in your right mind, I have just had a conversation with you.”

He then addressed himself to all present and said: “I want to give my dying testimony. You must be faithful in Christ. I want to say to you all that the Bible and the record of the Nephites, (The Book of Mormon) are true, so you can say that you have heard me bear my testimony on my death bed. All be faithful in Christ and your reward will be according to your works. God bless you all. My trust is in Christ forever, worlds without end. Amen.”

David Whitmer’s Unwavering Testimony

“I have been visited by thousands of people,” David Whitmer told James H. Hart in 1883,

believers and unbelievers, men and ladies of all degrees, sometimes as many as 15 in one day, and have never failed in my testimony. And they will know some day that my testimony is true.

As Richard Anderson points out, ten of the forty-two surviving testimonies from the Eight Witnesses mention handling the plates.

Lucy Mack Smith, who knew the Witnesses well and was there that day, says that they “looked upon the plates and handled them.”²⁰

William Smith, son and brother to several of the Eight, said that all of them testified “that they not only Saw with their eyes but handled with their hands the said record.”²¹

Hyrum Smith: “Seen the Plates With His Eyes”

Perhaps already responding to suggestions that the experience of the Eight Witnesses was merely “spiritual” and visionary, Hyrum Smith insisted during an 1838 speech that it was entirely real.

“He said that he had but two hands and two eyes,” Sally Parker remembered in a letter written in August of that year. “He said he had seen the plates with his eyes and handled them with his hands.”

The year previously, Hyrum married Mary Fielding. Shortly thereafter, her brother, Joseph Fielding, wrote, “My sister bears testimony that her husband has seen and handled the plates.”²²

And Hyrum himself wrote, in December 1839, of his sufferings in Missouri, where he had been arrested in the fall of 1838 and then imprisoned in the ironically named Liberty Jail from the beginning of December to the beginning of April:

I had been abused and thrust into a dungeon, and confined for months on account of my faith, and the “testimony of Jesus Christ.” However I thank God that I felt a determination to die rather than deny the things which my eyes had seen, which my hands had handled, and which I had borne testimony to, wherever my lot had been cast.

And I can assure my beloved brethren that I was enabled to bear as strong a testimony, when nothing but death presented itself, as ever I did in my life.

Samuel Smith’s Testimony

Samuel Smith, Hyrum’s brother and another of the Eight Witnesses, bore his testimony in the presence of fifteen-year-old Daniel Tyler, who summarized it as simply “He knew his brother Joseph had the plates, for the prophet had shown them to him, and he had handled them and seen the engravings thereon.”²³

In an 1836 editorial in the Church newspaper, John Whitmer bore strong testimony of his experience as one of the Witnesses:

I desire to testify to all that will come to the knowledge of this address, that I have most assuredly seen the plates from whence the Book of Mormon is translated, and that I have handled these plates, and know of a surety that Joseph Smith, Jr., has translated the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God. . .

Therefore, know ye, O ye inhabitants of the earth, wherever this address may come, that I have in this thing freed my garments of your blood, whether you believe or disbelieve.

John Whitmer After His Excommunication

But John Whitmer was excommunicated on 10 March 1838, one month before his brother David, and never returned to the Church.

For a brief period, it even appears that John’s spiritual confidence in the Book of Mormon had been shaken by his separation from his former associates and by his bitterness over economic and other issues raised by the Church’s sojourn in Missouri. He was sorrowful and dejected about his excommunication, but also, for at least a time, quite angry at the Church in general and Joseph Smith in particular.

Of all the Witnesses, he comes the closest, in a sense, to denying his testimony.

During the 1839 exchange with Theodore Turley that we’ve already mentioned, Whitmer confessed to doubts about whether the Book of Mormon was true. Speaking of the original text on the plates, he said, “I cannot read it, and I do not know whether it is true or not.”

Nonetheless, he insisted, “I handled those plates; there were fine engravings on both sides. I handled them.”

What John Whitmer Could Not Deny

This is highly impressive. Unlike the Three Witnesses, who heard a divine voice testify to the truth of the translation of the plates, the Eight Witnesses simply saw the plates under quite matter-of-fact conditions.

Yet, even in the depths of his alienation and bitterness, even when he was most inclined to doubt what he could not see for himself, even living, as he did, in the area of the worst anti-Mormon persecutions, John Whitmer could not deny that he had “lifted and handled a metal object of substantial weight.”

Moreover, the bitterness, or at least the skepticism, was short-lived.

After 1856, John Whitmer was the last survivor of the Eight Witnesses. In 1861, Jacob Gates spoke with him for more than four hours. Gates then wrote of John Whitmer in his journal: “[H]e still testified that the Book of Mormon is true and that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of the Lord.”

“As Material as Anything Can Be”

Myron Bond reported in 1878 that

old Father John Whitmer told me last winter, with tears in his eyes, that he knew as well as he knew he had an existence that Joseph translated the ancient writing which was upon the plates, which he “saw and handled,” and which, as one of the scribes, he helped to copy, as the words fell from Joseph’s lips, by supernatural or almighty power.

P. Wilhelm Poulson interviewed him that same year:

I said: I am aware that your name is affixed to the testimony in the Book of Mormon, that you saw the plates?

He—It is so, and that testimony is true.

I—Did you handle the plates with your hands?

He—I did so!

I—Then they were a material substance?

He—Yes, as material as anything can be.

I—They were heavy to lift?

He—Yes, and you know gold is a heavy metal, they were very heavy.

I—How big were the leaves?

He—So far as I recollect, 8 by 6 or 7 inches.

I— Were the leaves thick?

He—Yes, just so thick, that characters could be engraven on both sides.

I—How were the leaves joined together?

He—In three rings, each one in the shape of a D with the straight line towards the centre. . . .

I—Did you see them covered with a cloth?

He—No. He handed them uncovered into our hands, and we turned the leaves sufficient to satisfy us.²⁴

John Whitmer’s Final Public Testimony

Finally, six months before his death, John Whitmer spoke at a public Sunday service. His remarks were reported in the Kingston Sentinel, as follows:

Mr. Whitmer is considered a truthful, honest and law abiding citizen by this community, and consequently, his appointment drew out a large audience.

Mr. Whitmer stated that he had often handled the identical golden plates which Mr. Smith received from the hand of the angel. He said it was of pure gold; part of the book was sealed up solid, the other part was open, and it was this part which was translated.”

Were There Real Plates?

Were there real plates? Yes, there were. If anything in early Mormon history is well established, surely the existence of the plates is.

Let’s consider the testimonies of several unofficial witnesses.

The sixteen-year-old William Smith always remembered the night when his older brother, Joseph, outran pursuers and brought the plates into the Smith home. William lifted the plates that night, and estimated their weight at about sixty pounds.²⁵

Joseph Smith’s sister Katharine hefted the covered plates on several different occasions. She too recalled his arrival home with the plates and remembered that they were “wrapped . . . up in his frock”:

When he got to the door he said: “Father, I have been followed; look and see if you can see any one.”

He then threw himself on the bed and fainted, and when he came to he told us the circumstances; he had his thumb put out of place and his arm was very lame.

Katharine Smith’s Experience With the Plates

Her grandson, Herbert Salisbury, remembered Katharine relating that “When [Joseph] came in the house . . . he was completely out of breath. She took the plates from him and laid them on the table temporarily, and helped revive him until he got breathing properly, and also examined his hand, and treated it for the bruises on his knuckles.”

She said he entered the house running and threw himself on a couch, panting from his extraordinary exertion.

She told me Joseph allowed her to “heft” the package but not to see the gold plates, as the angel had forbidden him to show them at that period. She said they were very heavy.

The Weight and Dimensions of the Plates

Martin Harris says that he and his family lifted the plates in a box when they were first looking into Joseph’s claims, and that he held the plates on his knee for a time while he and Joseph were preparing to hide them in the woods. He said that “he had hefted the plates repeatedly.”²⁶

Harris put their weight at between forty and fifty, or forty and sixty, pounds.²⁷ Like his fellow Witness David Whitmer, Harris gave the dimensions of the plates as seven by eight inches.²⁸

William could feel the shape of the plates through the cloth that covered them.

“They were not quite as large as this Bible,” he said. “Could tell whether they were round or square. Could raise the leaves this way (raising a few leaves of the Bible before him). One could easily tell that they were not stone, hewn out to deceive, or even a block of wood. Being a mixture of gold and copper, they were much heavier than stone, and very much heavier than wood.”²⁹

“I could tell,” said William Smith, “they were plates of some kind and that they were fastened together by rings running through the back.”³⁰

The Rings That Fastened the Plates

The rings are a striking feature. We’ve already heard John Whitmer’s testimony that there were three of them, shaped like a capital D.

Based on his interviews with two of the Three Witnesses and especially with Hyrum Smith, William McClellin also knew of connecting “rings in the shape of the letter D, which,” he says, “facilitated the opening and shutting of the book” (in the manner of modern three-ring binders).³¹

David Whitmer also described the three D-shaped rings. It’s difficult to imagine this degree of consensus regarding such an unusual detail if the plates were only imaginary or never uncovered.

A brief article by Warren Aston, forthcoming in the FARMS Insights newsletter, will examine the significance of these rings and (this is still under discussion) may point out a striking ancient parallel to them.

Emma Smith and the Physical Plates

Emma Smith, two months before her death, told her eldest son that

The plates often lay on the table without any attempt at concealment, wrapped in a small linen table cloth, which I had given him to fold them in. I once felt of the plates as they thus lay on the table, tracing their outline and shape.

They seemed to be pliable like thick paper, and would rustle with a metallic sound when the edges were moved by the thumb, as one sometimes thumb the edges of a book. [I] moved them from place to place on the table as it was necessary on doing my housework.”

The Other Objects Seen by the Three Witnesses

One striking and often unnoticed aspect of the experience of the Three Witnesses is the fact that they did not see only the golden plates. The vision was considerably more complex than that, making deception (via the fabrication of fake ancient artifacts) an even more remote possibility.

According to repeated testimony, besides the plates of the Book of Mormon and the angel, both the sealed and the unsealed portion, they saw

  • the Urim and Thummim and
  • the accompanying breastplate,
  • the “Ball” or “Director” (called the “Liahona” in the Book of Mormon),
  • the Sword of Laban,
  • the brass plates, and
  • “many other plates.”

“The Urim and Thummim were two white stones,” David Whitmer told P. Wilhelm Poulson in 1878.

“Each of them cased in as spectacles are, in a kind of silver casing, but the bow between the stones was more heavy, and longer apart between the stones, than we usually find it in spectacles.”

Lucy Mack Smith “examined” the Urim and Thummim and

“found that it consisted of two smooth three-cornered diamonds set in glass, and the glasses were set in silver bows, which were connected with each other in much the same way as old fashioned spectacles.”

Lucy Mack Smith on the Breastplate

It was wrapped in a thin muslin handkerchief, so thin that I could see the glistening metal, and ascertain its proportions without any difficulty.

It was concave on one side and convex on the other, and extended from the neck downwards, as far as the centre of the stomach of a man of extraordinary size.

It had four straps of the same material, for the purpose of fastening it to the breast, two of which ran back to go over the shoulders, and the other two were designed to fasten to the hips. They were just the width of two of my fingers, (for I measured them,) and they had holes in the ends of them, to be convenient in fastening.

The Stone Box at the Hill Cumorah

David Whitmer, saw the receptacle in which the plates had lain in the Hill Cumorah.

“It was a stone box,” he told P. Wilhelm Poulson in 1878, “and the stones looked to me as if they were cemented together. That was on the side of the hill, and a little down from the top.”

According to a reporter for the Chicago Times, who interviewed Whitmer in August 1875,

“Three times has he been at the hill Cumorah and seen the casket that contained the tablets, and the seer-stone. Eventually the casket had been washed down to the foot of the hill, but it was to be seen when he last visited the historic place.”

Both the Chicago Tribune in December 1885 and the Chicago Times in January 1888 reported his testimony. That he and Oliver Cowdery had been guided to the Hill Cumorah by Joseph Smith on one occasion, during which they had seen the receptacle together.

The Problem of Explaining the Physical Evidence Away

Accordingly, in order to save his unbelief, Vogel must invent elaborate metallurgical fraud as well as invoke complex collective hallucination.

He suddenly suggests, without even a trace of supporting evidence, that Joseph Smith might perhaps, conceivably, have faked a set of tin plates in order to deceive his friends.

This unevidenced and rather implausible pseudofact is, however, a topic for another occasion. Then we will also need to consider how the poor farmboy Joseph Smith also managed, it seems:

  • to create a forged sword of Laban,
  • a bogus Liahona,
  • a fake breastplate, and
  • a stage-prop Urim and Thummim,

and then somehow lost them without a trace.

“True to the Basic Sources”

“Secular historians are . . . more inclined than Mormons to suppress source material from Joseph’s closest associates,” remarks the distinguished Columbia University historian Richard L. Bushman.

Since, he says, quoting extensively from the reminiscences of those closest to the events would tend to suffuse a modern narrative with their own faith, and would turn readers’ attention to Joseph’s transparently sincere desire to obey God, “believing historians are more inclined to be true to the basic sources than unbelieving ones.”

Conclusion

Those who wish to redefine the experiences of the Witnesses clearly illustrate Professor Bushman’s point. They

  • quarrel with,
  • disbelieve, and
  • seek to explain away the principal sources for the very story they claim to illuminate,

without compelling evidentiary reason to do so.

It’s an exceedingly odd approach to history.

Thank you.

 

I Learned it on the Internet: Maintaining Faith in Today’s Online World

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Question
How can I tell if what I read about the Church online is true?

Short Answer
Not everything online is reliable, especially when it comes to Church history and doctrine. The best way to find truth is to start with trusted sources, seek balanced and well-documented information, and approach questions with both faith and careful evaluation. Many misleading claims come from incomplete or distorted presentations of real history.
Key Takeaways
  • Many online claims are based on partial information or lack proper context
  • Trusted sources include the Church, professional historians, and faithful scholarship
  • Viral or emotionally charged content is often designed for clicks, not accuracy
  • Evaluating both the source and your own spiritual receptiveness is essential
  • Focusing on core gospel truths helps avoid being distracted by secondary issues
Question
Did the LDS Church lie about its history?

Short Answer
No—most claims that the Church “lied” about its history stem from misunderstandings, incomplete information, or shifting expectations about how history should be taught. Historical details, including complex or less-discussed topics, have long been available in primary sources and Church publications. The real issue is often not concealment, but how and where people encounter the information.
Key Takeaways
  • Many controversial historical details were publicly available long before they became widely discussed online
  • Accusations of “lying” often arise from differences between simplified teaching and detailed historical records
  • Online sources may present selective or misleading information without full context
  • Faithful scholarship and Church resources provide more complete and balanced explanations
  • Evaluating both the source and intent behind claims is essential for finding truth

Summary

Summary

Scott Gordon uses a personal story about repairing a truck to illustrate how not everything found online is reliable. He applies this lesson to common criticisms of the Church, particularly regarding the Book of Mormon translation process, showing that these issues have long been publicly available and are often misunderstood rather than hidden.

The talk emphasizes that while historical details can be interesting, they are secondary to the core truth claims of the gospel—especially the Book of Mormon. It encourages individuals to seek answers from trusted sources, remain spiritually grounded, and respond to doubt or criticism with patience and faith. The speaker concludes by bearing testimony and urging love and understanding toward those who struggle or leave the Church.

TL;DR

TL;DR (Too Long; Didn’t Read)

Not everything online is true—especially claims about Church history. The speaker shows that controversial topics like the seer stone were never hidden, just misunderstood. Focus on trusted sources, stay grounded in faith, and remember that the truth of the Book of Mormon is what matters most.

A Simple Story About a Pickup Truck

So this—this is my pickup truck. I bet you didn’t expect to see that in a conference, right?

It was my father’s. I inherited it from him, and in case you don’t notice, it’s really old—like, it’s older than some of the people sitting in the audience here. And many of the plastic parts on it were broken and damaged by the sun.

In fact, when I touched the tail light, my finger went all the way through the plastic lens because it was so corroded by the sun.

Trying to Fix What Was Broken

So I decided I wanted to fix it up and make the truck just a little bit nicer. So I tried to replace all of the plastic parts on it, and I replaced—it was going really well—and I would replace most of them until I tried to replace the air vents.

This is the “after” picture, not the before. I didn’t think to take a “before” picture. I mean, the before picture was just kind of a square hole—that is what it was.

So when I tried to replace those air vents, I looked for the parts, and I discovered there were no parts in the United States. Didn’t exist—too old.

Turning to the Internet for Answers

So I had to order parts from Malaysia and wait for them to come, and it took a whole month. And so I finally got them, and with excitement I went down to my truck, and I realized I didn’t know how to put it in. I had no idea.

So where did I go to get the answers? YouTube, right? YouTube has the answer to everything related to car repairs.

So I looked at YouTube, and I found a video that explained exactly how to do it. And what it said is you could take a couple of butter knives, and there’s like a button on the ends of these vents, and all you have to do is put the butter knives in on each end and press it in, and it’ll just slip right into the hole.

And I thought, like, well, that sounds pretty easy—I’ll do that.

When Internet Advice Goes Wrong

Okay, and so I put the knives on each end, and I pushed in.

And the vent completely collapsed and fell apart.

So I went back to YouTube, and I looked around again, and I found a different video. And this new video started by saying, contrary to what some other videos claim, you can’t simply bend the parts and slip them in—you have to take the dashboard apart.

So I had to buy new parts from Malaysia, wait for them to be shipped to me, and try again. And this time, it did work.

Not Everything Online Is True

So why am I telling you this story?

Well, it’s to illustrate that not everything we learn on the internet is true. In our mind, we say, of course I know that—but in our heart and in our soul, sometimes we’re afraid that the things we read on the internet might be true.

And we occasionally panic when we read things that go against our beliefs. And the fear that it could possibly be true can sometimes shake our faith—we stop listening, we stop exploring, we simply take it as fact.

When People Encounter Church History Online

Every day I get emails from people saying they just learned something about the church on the internet, and they wonder why they didn’t know it before. And they often assume the church has hidden it from them.

For example, I’ve seen several people on TikTok and YouTube who are very upset that there’s a claim that Joseph Smith used the Nephite breastplate, known as—or often referred to as—the Urim and Thummim when he started translating the Book of Mormon, but later shifted to using a small, dark-colored stone called the seer stone.

And in 1870, in talking about the Book of Mormon translation, Emma Smith said,

“Now the first part that my husband translated was translated by use of the Urim and Thummim, and that was the part Martin Harris lost. After that, he used a small stone, not exactly black, but was rather dark in color.”

The Question Critics Raise

Well, I’ve been told the church has hidden this fact for many years.

One prominent church critic—who was discussed earlier in an earlier presentation—brings up this issue seven times in his booklet. Clearly he thought it was important, if not devastating. Perhaps it was a smoking gun.

So what happened? Why did the church hide this for so long?

The Information Was Never Hidden

Well, the answer is—they didn’t.

The information has been around and accessible for a long time. Martin Harris, Oliver Cowdery, and Emma Smith all spoke about it. Their quotes can easily be found on this matter using Google.

You can even read about it in the anti–Latter-day Saint book Mormonism Unvailed, written in 1834, which can also be found online.

Where This Has Been Published

It has been published in several places:

  • the 1930 History of the Church, volume 1, page 128;
  • March 1974 New Era magazine;
  • September 1974 Friend magazine;
  • September 1977 Ensign magazine;
  • January 1988; July 1993;
  • January 2013;
  • October 2015—
  • and it’s discussed on the Church of Jesus Christ website in the Gospel Topics section.

The 1993 Ensign article was written by—this, the writer might be somewhat obscure to you—his name was Russell M. Nelson.

So clearly, this information can easily be found and is not hidden.

“Lazy Learners” and Common Criticisms

It is the ease of finding examples like this that can bring up the admittedly disliked moniker of “lazy learners.”

When I brought up this example recently, the response I got back was that we only mentioned it eight times in 40-plus years, and the paintings about the translation didn’t show it exactly that way, so that proves the Church was trying to hide it.

Well, it clearly isn’t a secret. It was in Church magazines—but admittedly, it also isn’t taught in most Church Sunday School classes.

Why Isn’t This Taught in Sunday School?

If it’s not a secret, why don’t we teach it in Sunday School?

Well, first, Joseph Smith was questioned several times on translation, and he would simply repeat the phrase that it had been done by the gift and power of God. And one time he added, “It is not intended to tell the world all the particulars of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon.”

So it is not Joseph Smith—it is other witnesses who talk about the method of translation. Joseph Smith obviously didn’t think the method was very important.

A Historical Detail, Not a Doctrinal Issue

Secondly, exactly how the Book of Mormon is translated is not really relevant to our living the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is simply a historical detail.

Whether that detail is right or wrong does not change the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And in our Sunday School classes, we’re really not a Sunday School class of historical details—we try to teach Sunday School classes to help people better follow Jesus Christ and improve their lives.

Critics and the Focus on Method

It seems that critics don’t like the method of the Book of Mormon translation, but they ignore the results.

Or, if he used the right method, the Church failed to tell us about it—and the proof is the illustration from the Book of Mormon that doesn’t show the stone.

But he did use the method that’s in the illustration—he just didn’t use it for the whole book.

Plus, illustrations are not meant to be photographs and are seldom historically accurate.

A Note on Illustrations

Feel free to go to your local community college—I happen to know a community college really well, I work at one—and have a conversation with the art teacher there about it.

Or you could type it into ChatGPT—and I tried that—and it comes back that no, illustrations are not generally historically accurate.

The “Stone” Criticism

In a recent discussion I had on this topic, it occurred to me that the critics were complaining that to aid in the translation, Joseph Smith may have used a stone he found.

I should say he may have used the stone that he found instead of, as they previously believed, two stones found by a previous prophet.

So to summarize this: two stones from a different prophet are okay, but one stone from Joseph Smith proves the Church is false.

A Story About Perspective

The attitude of the critics on this topic reminds me of a situation I heard from a man during a priesthood meeting discussion.

He said that after he had been married for a few years, he decided he did not like his wife. They were not getting along. He thought she was overly critical of him and thought it was a mistake that he’d ever married her.

But before he divorced her, someone—and I believe, if I remember right, it was actually his attorney—told him to start a daily journal.

Learning to See the Good

And each day, he should write down one good thing about his wife—one good thing she had done or said or that he noticed.

And he said the first week it was almost an impossible task. He didn’t notice anything worthwhile, but he dutifully wrote down some small things that she did.

She did wash the dishes, and she prepared lunches for the children.

A Change of Heart

And as he did this daily, it became easier and easier to see the good things that she was doing and to recognize what a wonderful person she was.

One day, while he was away at work, his wife found his journal. And she didn’t say anything—she decided it was a good idea, so she started her own journal.

And they are now happily married, and they’re the best of friends, and they still keep their journals.

Seeing Only the Negative

Sometimes I think the critics, just like this man, could see no good in his wife. Critics sometimes can see no good in the Church.

Everything—even innocent behavior from members of the Church—must have some nefarious motive.

But when you only look for the bad, you only find the bad. When you look for the good, you find the good far exceeds any negative things you struggle with, and you live a much happier life.

The Reality of the Book of Mormon

So, okay—the method of translation is certainly interesting to discuss, but as I said before, it really is simply a historical detail.

No matter what the translation method is, we have a Book of Mormon. It’s a tangible object. It’s real.

And you can’t simply explain it away. As you read it, you recognize the miracle of that book.

The Influence of Online Voices

Online influencers simply want clicks on their online videos—we heard about that today—and the more outrageous the claim, the more clicks you get and the more money they make.

And they often make sure each claim is as controversial as possible to maximize the clicks. Notice the bloody ax gratuitously included in this slide to increase interest.

To many people, it seems that a random person on TikTok is more authoritative than any real historians or scholars, and must be believed if they can make a good video.

The Rise of the “Citizen Journalist”

The citizen journalist has become the harbinger of truth, even when that person may be simply repeating old, long-ago refuted rumors and old anti-Mormon books.

Elder Russell M. Ballard has said,

“Beware of those who speak and publish in opposition to God’s true prophets and who actively proselytize others. They rely on sophistry to deceive and entice others to their views. They set themselves up for a light unto the world, and they may get gain and praise to the world.”

FAIR’s Role and Approach

So FAIR is here to provide basic information and facts related to many of these topics.

We’ve often been dismissed by the critics—”oh, they simply engage in ad hominem attacks!” I hear. But when I ask, “where?” (and I have asked) the critics haven’t been able to find examples.

That’s because we go to great lengths to talk about the arguments and not the people.

Staying Focused on Arguments, Not People

That’s not to say we’re perfect at it. There have been occasions when we’ve grown frustrated with people making absurd claims without evidence, and I have questioned the honesty of the author or podcaster.

But it’s always in context of the facts, and it’s never simply a dismissal based on who they are.

FAIR is here to cut through the propaganda, the repeating of rumors, and the arguments that would often not make it through a freshman English writing class.

Improving the Quality of Discussion

Now, before anyone jumps on me for that statement, there are also apologetic writings defending the Church that would also not pass that bar.

I have seen that in arguments related to Book of Mormon geography, race in the priesthood, and plural marriage.

All I can say is I hope the arguments get better on both sides, actually.

Global Impact of FAIR

But FAIR is here to strengthen testimonies. We recently had a donor who paid for a few people to travel to Europe for some conferences and firesides.

In Salzburg, we met a sister who had traveled all the way from Hungary to read our talks or to see our talks. She was frustrated that because of the language barrier it wasn’t available to many of her fellow Hungarians.

In Bulgaria, I met a man from Turkey who had many questions that were preventing him from joining the Church. He found FAIR, found his answers, and was baptized.

The Growing Need for Resources

But we have a problem. FAIR is honestly made up of simply a few volunteers, backed up by several outsiders willing to give their expertise at our conferences.

People ask us to respond to questions, videos, and websites. We have a 10,000-page website that needs to be updated.

We have people who want us to do firesides or conferences in other areas.

The Challenge of Keeping Up

So far, we’ve relied on faith and small donations to get us through.

As technology has become more and more complicated, we find that we need more resources to keep up.

Without people donating to us, we wouldn’t be able to keep up. So far, FAIR has been operating on a budget that’s less than the salary of one of the podcasters who attacks the Church.

A Call for Support

Now granted, he’s one of the more famous podcasters—but his salary is more than our entire budget.

How can we hope to keep up?

Let me share with you this clip given by Elder Pearson at a previous FAIR conference:

“Independent voices are needed in reaching out to those among us who are struggling to find and sustain faith, and in responding to those who unfairly criticize, misrepresent, distort, and demean the Church, its history, doctrine, and leadership. More needs to be done to increase awareness of, access to, and confidence in these independent, trusted resources by Latter-day Saints and seekers of truth. These are valued, trusted resources, and they need more support. They need more financial support, among other things, given the enormity of the challenge. Good people of faith are going to have to think about what they want to use their resources to put against, and FAIR Mormon cannot possibly engage at the level they’re capable of without more financial resources.”

A Final Note on Support

Okay, of course you’d expect a donation ad from me—but it’s true.

And he spoke also about—he also included other organizations that are represented at the conference here in his talk.

Teaching a New Generation

So each year I finish my semester teaching students in accounting who are easily completing their homework—they understand the principles I’m teaching them.

Then the new semester starts, and a new group of students stare blankly at me and act as if they’ve never heard the subject matter before. That’s because they haven’t heard it before, and I have to start over and teach the new class the same information from the very beginning.

Gospel Learning Works the Same Way

The same is true with gospel learning and for evaluating critical arguments.

Each generation is a new group of students learning again why the gospel is true. And I hear it over and over again where people will have a question, and people will respond with, “Oh, that old thing—that’s already been discussed.”

No, it hasn’t been discussed—not with a new generation. It’s only been discussed with us older folks, I guess.

Key Differences in How People Learn

But there are a couple of differences with my students and with people with gospel questions and such.

First, even though I’m giving my students new information they have not heard before, it is really rare for them to say that since they haven’t heard it before, I must have been hiding it.

Secondly, unlike my students who typically go to class to learn from me, those struggling with gospel questions quickly turn to the internet and follow whosoever has a good video, regardless of their qualifications.

Where People Turn in a Faith Crisis

They’ve done studies with people who have a crisis of faith—do they first turn to the Church or their loved ones?

No. They usually first go to the internet and do their own research, not realizing that many of the online sources are not trustworthy.

I’m saddened when I see people leave the Church because of what they read or see on these deceptive websites.

The Danger of Misinformation

How would you feel if you left the Church and then found out you were lied to by the person who is telling you the Church was lying?

So how do you avoid being led astray?

Start with Trusted Sources

First, focus on using trusted sources.

Your first trusted source is the Church and professional Church historians. From there, you can expand your circle to include BYU Studies and other faithful resources like FAIR, Interpreter, and Scripture Central.

In all of that, be careful of anyone who claims to know more than the Church or claims that the Church has been deceived—that is a sure indication that something is wrong.

Your Personal Receptiveness to Truth

Then we have the issue of your personal receptiveness to the true truth.

  1. Are you spending excessive time on social media,
  2. getting angry with everyone—even in defense of the gospel? Anger will drive away the Spirit and leave you susceptible to doubts.
  3. Are you involved in any behavior that’s not in keeping with the commandments—
  4. or maybe you have not broken any of the commandments, but you would like to and spend lots of time thinking about it?

What Are You Surrounding Yourself With?

On the other hand:

  • are you spending your time attending church,
  • studying scriptures,
  • listening to uplifting talks and music?

Are you engaged in:

  • service,
  • visiting the temple, and
  • seeking the Lord’s guidance in prayer?

In short, with whom and what are you surrounding yourself?

Staying Focused on the Core Question

It’s easy to get sidetracked on various criticisms of the Church.

Most of these issues we run into on social media or on the internet are simply distractions.

I can say that because most questions really come down to the question about the Book of Mormon.

The Central Truth Claim

If the Book of Mormon is true, then Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.

If he was a prophet, then the priesthood keys that the Lord said would never be taken again from the earth are still here, held by President Russell M. Nelson.

And this is the Church of Jesus Christ today.

A Common Criticism: Archaeology and the Book of Mormon

Let me give you an example of a criticism that repeatedly comes up—but research provides answers for.

Archaeology—doesn’t archaeology prove the Book of Mormon as false?

Well, in 2019, Matt Roper, building on previous work done by archaeologist Dr. John Clark, examined many books claiming to prove the Book of Mormon false through archaeology.

Examining the Evidence

He presented his results in a FAIR conference such as this one, and he identified every archaeological evidence listed against it. Then, he produced the following list of 200 items.

Matt then looked at modern archaeology and found the claims that were supposed to prove the Book of Mormon false are now supported by archaeological evidence.

Where there is no archaeological evidence, he used red. Where there’s accepted archaeological evidence, he used green. And where there is evidence but still disagreement on it—or uncertainty on it—he used blue.

What the Data Shows

The Book of Mormon was written in 1830, but in 2019, 81% of the things that were supposed to prove the Book of Mormon was a fake are either confirmed to be true or trending in the direction to be true.

Had Joseph Smith used the archaeological beliefs of his day to author the Book of Mormon, it would have been wrong.

Instead, people criticized the book for more than 190 years for things we now know to be true.

Why Old Criticisms Persist

Unfortunately, on the internet, they’re still repeating a lot of those old claims.

To me, this shows if you have questions, in faith, answers will come. They may not come right away—as some of these criticisms have gone on for 190 years—but they do come.

Scholarship and Discipleship

We do not talk about these things much in church. Knowing this information does not change our behavior.

The Church is trying to make us disciples of Jesus Christ and not necessarily scholars.

Being a scholar does not make you a better person—but if you want to study scholarship, the information is there. FAIR, Interpreter, Scripture Central, and other organizations are there to help you with those intellectual reasons to stay.

Counsel from President Nelson

In April Conference 2022, President Russell M. Nelson gave a talk on spiritual momentum. He said we should learn about God and how He works.

He also said we should pray always and study our scriptures.

And then in a 2022 devotional, President Nelson said that:

“If you have questions—and I hope you do—seek answers with a fervent desire to believe. Learn all you can about the gospel, and be sure to turn to truth-filled sources for guidance.”

Seeking Truth from the Right Sources

As you go through your life, you will hear good things and bad things about the Church—that is the nature of social media, and that’s the nature of the internet.

But know that I have spent many years reading criticisms of the Church. My testimony of the truthfulness of the gospel is stronger today than it has ever been.

Anchored in Jesus Christ

My anchor is Jesus Christ and the book that testifies of Him—the Book of Mormon.

Living the principle is not always easy, but if we do, we will be blessed.

When Loved Ones Leave the Church

So one more thought—what do we do if we have family or friends who leave the Church, or people who study the gospel and don’t join?

My experience says you should love them.

You do not try to convince them they’re wrong—I’m sure you’ve seen how well that works in politics. It doesn’t.

Responding with Love and Patience

  • You wait for them.
  • You answer their questions as they come up, and
  • You hold on to what you know.

Remember, life is eternal, so change may come for them sometime later—perhaps not even in this life.

We are eternal beings in temporal bodies, but we can still hold on to the truthfulness of the gospel.

Love Without Agreement

To love others, we do not have to agree with them.

We can know it is true, and we can love our neighbor and our family as Jesus commanded us to do.

Final Encouragement

So I want to point out one more thing—in the Church Gospel Library app, if you pull up your Gospel Library app, they’ve created a new section to give additional guidance to you if you’re struggling with questions yourself or if you’re trying to help someone struggling with questions.

What you don’t want to do is get angry with them or drive them away—you want to love them, listen to them, and trust in the Lord.

Testimony

I know that Jesus is the Christ. He is my Savior. He loves us and wants the best for us.

He’s given us the Bible and the Book of Mormon. I know the Book of Mormon is true, and this is His Church.

And I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

The Book of Abraham: Dealing with the Critics

Summary

TL:DR

Michael D. Rhodes responds to The Lost Book of Abraham by addressing key critical assumptions about the Joseph Smith papyri rather than the text of the Book of Abraham itself. He

  • explains why dating the surviving papyri to the second century B.C. does not disprove Abrahamic authorship,
  • clarifies Joseph Smith’s broader use of the word “translation,” and
  • shows that multiple texts on a single papyrus were common in antiquity.

Drawing on ancient Egyptian papyri and Jewish pseudepigraphical texts, Rhodes demonstrates that the Book of Abraham’s facsimiles were anciently associated with Abraham in ways unknown in Joseph Smith’s time. He concludes that the Book of Abraham’s doctrines:

  • preexistence,
  • eternal identity,
  • the council in heaven,
  • priesthood lineage, and
  • creation

remain powerful evidence of Joseph Smith’s prophetic calling.

Responding to The Lost Book of Abraham

Michael Rhodes: What we are going to be talking about is a response to the recent video, “The Lost Book of Abraham: Investigating a Remarkable Mormon Claim,” and my evaluation of the basic flaws in the scholarship in that.

This was a video that was produced in 2002 by the Institute for Religious Research in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

This is the same group who, back in 1985, published the book on the Joseph Smith Papyri, “By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus: A New Look at the Joseph Smith Papyri,” Charles M. Larson’s book.

Focus of Book of Abraham Critics

It’s interesting that critics of the Book of Abraham very rarely, if ever, deal with the text itself.

They deal with the perceived method by which it was produced, and try to prove it false on that basis, rather than looking at the text itself. That’s certainly what happens here.

In only one tiny instance at all do they even talk about the text itself in this video.

The test of Joseph Smith’s prophetic calling ought to be the fruit itself—“Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them,” it says in Matthew (Matt. 7:15–16, 20)—and not the methodology he used in producing that text, which we indeed don’t know anyway.

So that’s just an observation to begin with here.

Book of Breathings Papyri Is the One Joseph Smith Translated From

The basic argument put forward by this DVD, and by that previous book, and ever since the papyri fragments became available, is that the Book of Breathings papyrus that forms part of these papyri is the papyrus that Joseph Smith used in translating the Book of Abraham.

  • Scholars have now translated this book. It is a Book of Breathings. It isn’t the Book of Abraham.
  • Moreover, it can be reliably dated to around the second century B.C.—nearly 2,000 years after Abraham.

Ergo, Joseph Smith was a false prophet.

Book of Breathings Papyrus Contains Facsimile 1

Let’s look at the flaws in that reasoning. I’m taking each of these arguments step by step.

The Book of Breathings papyrus that the Church now owns is the actual document that Joseph Smith had.

The reason they say that is because, first and foremost, facsimile number one is part of it.

It certainly is part of the collection of papyri that Joseph Smith had.

Here we have that particular portion from which facsimile number one was taken, and it’s beyond any shadow of doubt that’s exactly what it is.

Obviously, portions are missing, and were filled in by the engraver, but it’s obvious that this is the actual facsimile, and it does form the beginning of the Book of Breathings.

You can match up the papyri fragments quite nicely, and there is no doubt that this forms the beginning of the Book of Breathings.

The name of the author of the Book of Breathings is in the hieroglyphic text to the right of the facsimile, and that name is also found in hieratic text of the Book of Breathings.

Joseph Translated from the Kirtland Egyptian Papers

The video claims that some of the Kirtland Egyptian Papers are the actual documents that Joseph Smith used in the translation process.

This is on the basis of the fact that you have passages from the Book of Abraham and hieroglyphic characters that are demonstrably from the Book of Breathings there.

The problem with that is, as Hugh Nibley and others have definitely shown:

  • The English text was written in first, in a different ink.
  • The characters were copied afterwards.
  • In many cases, the characters actually overlap the original English text.

So what we have here is not the process of translation, but clearly someone trying to match up Joseph Smith’s translation with some characters on the papyri.

It seems to be the unsuccessful attempt of some of the brethren to figure out how Joseph Smith did what he did, so that it’s not the translation process at all.

No Mention of Abraham in the Papyrus Fragments

We translated the text. My most recent book is a translation and commentary of that text.

It doesn’t mention Abraham; there is no Book of Abraham in there.

How do we reconcile that with the fact that Facsimile 1 is right there at the beginning of it?

In fact, Facsimile 3, although we don’t have the original of that, would have come at the end of the text of the Book of Breathings.

Indeed, the fragments we do have contain no mention of Abraham, but they are only fragments, and that’s a key point here.

We only have a tiny bit of all of the papyri that Joseph Smith had. (We can come up with percentages if we want.)

The key point is, we only have fragments of the actual Book of Breathings.

There are probably 40 to 50 percent of the total text of the Book of Breathings found on the papyri.

Whether there were other texts on the papyri we don’t know, because we don’t have all of the papyrus.

There is no reason why a copy of the Book of Abraham couldn’t have been on there.

To say that there couldn’t have been is simply an argument from silence, and not good scholarship.

Two Texts on One Papyrus

In the video, Robert Ritner, who is a professor of Egyptology at Chicago, maintains that it is totally unprecedented to find two different texts on an Egyptian papyrus like that.

There are, in fact, numerous examples of just that.

Probably the one that has the greatest similarity is the Papyrus Vandier, which has a Book of the Dead, an Egyptian religious text like the Book of Breathings on one side, and a tale on the other about a man who was sacrificed—remarkable parallels with the Book of Abraham.

So there are, in fact, examples of ancient Egyptian papyri with multiple texts on them.

We simply don’t know what’s on the rest of the papyrus.

Papyrus Dated to the Second Century B.C.

How about the fact that it can be reliably dated to the second century B.C., rather than 2,000 B.C., the assumed date of Abraham?

“Written by His Own Hand”

They made a big deal about the fact that, in the introduction there, it says, “written by his own hand” upon papyrus.

That’s simply indicating the authorship of the original book, you know, like I can take a copy of Harry Potter and say, “This is written by J. K. Rowling.”

That doesn’t mean she wrote that one I am holding in my hand.

It is simply a copy of an original text.

All this says is that it was originally authored by Abraham, and what we have is a copy, and not the original one penned by him previously.

“Translation”

“Translation” is another important term for me to define here.

Joseph Smith used that term in a somewhat broader sense than we do today.

The thing that comes closest to what we think of as a translation is the translation of the Book of Mormon, where he had an ancient text in front of him, and translated into a modern language: English.

He did it a little bit differently, with the Urim and Thummim rather than with a knowledge of the grammar, a textbook, a dictionary, and so on, but that comes closest to our concept of the process of translation.

Translation of the Bible

The translation of the Bible proceeded totally differently.

He simply had a text of the King James Version of the Bible in front of him, and through direct revelation obtained divine commentary, corrections, and additions to that text in English without ever seeing the original documents.

D&C Section 7 as Translation

In D&C Section 7 is another example of a translation.

Here is a translation of an ancient parchment done by John, that Joseph Smith clearly did not have direct access to, but via revelation obtained a translation into modern English.

What Kind of Translation Was the Book of Abraham?

So what kind of translation was the Book of Abraham?

Which of those three does it fit into?

Well, two possibilities occur to me.

(The middle possibility is not possible, because he didn’t have an English translation of the Book of Abraham, which he then corrected.)

So the first and the third are the two possibilities:

  1. a translation of an ancient text just like the Book of Mormon, or
  2. a translation by direct revelation like the parchment of John.

Let’s look at each of those.

Translation from an Ancient Text

This seems to be supported, the idea of translation from an ancient text, by references in the diary of Joseph Smith translating ancient Egyptian records, and statements of some of his associates.

It is undeniably possible that a copy of the ancient Book of Abraham could have been somewhere on that papyrus.

To me, that is the most likely explanation, but I don’t eliminate the possibility of the second one, although it doesn’t feel as good to me—the idea that the Egyptian papyri simply stimulated Joseph Smith to thinking about Joseph in Egypt, and Abraham, and thus received by direct revelation.

If you adopt that stance, then you have to assume that the statements in Abraham 1:12 and 14 referring to the illustrations, are parenthetical remarks by Joseph Smith, inserted into the actual text of Abraham.

Either way, it works, but I prefer the first, and that is, for the moment, what I believe at this point.

The Facsimiles Problem

That brings us to what I call the “facsimiles problem.”

Facsimiles one and three, that are now associated with the Book of Abraham, are the beginning and ending of the text of the Book of Breathings on this particular papyrus.

Facsimile number two was totally elsewhere, and had no relationship even with the Book of Breathings, but was a separate document.

Why are they associated with this ancient pagan text?

Was somehow there a relationship with Abraham?

Ancient Origins of the Facsimiles

The answer, to me, is simply that these illustrations ultimately derive through a 2,000-year period from illustrations done by Abraham in that intervening period, and adapted for other uses.

What Joseph Smith simply did was to give the original interpretation of the illustrations as they had been done by Abraham, although they are in a very distorted form as they appear now.

The key to that is, is there evidence, then, that anciently, these illustrations were associated with Abraham?

That’s the real pivotal question, and the answer is, “Yes.”

This is really, to me, the bulk of the evidence that supports Joseph Smith’s association of these scenes with the Book of Abraham.

Facsimile #1

Let’s start with facsimile number one.

An ancient Egyptian papyrus dating roughly to the 1st or 2nd century A.D. (within a few hundred years of the Joseph Smith papyri) has a lion couch scene similar to that which we find in the Book of Abraham.

Let’s look at that.

Underneath there, in the circled portion, is the name Abraham, and it says, “Abraham, who upon,” and then the papyrus, as you can see, breaks off.

The key point here is that an ancient Egyptian papyrus that Joseph Smith didn’t know about, associates this scene with Abraham.

Comparing the Lion Couch Scenes

Let’s put these side by side.

Note that there are some similarities, and there are some differences.

First of all, the person is not actually lying on the lion couch. Right?

They are on another bier, reclining, with the standing figure; but the general similarity is obvious, and again, the association with the name Abraham is pivotal.

Facsimile #2

Let’s turn to facsimile two.

On the left is a copy from the Church historian’s office of facsimile number two, illustrating that apparently, at least when that drawing was made, there was a considerable amount of damage.

In fact, the areas that are shown damaged have text that has been taken from other papyri and placed into the drawing, which don’t belong there, are upside down, or have other problems.

That helps to understand some of the seeming incongruities with the facsimile drawing as we now have it.

Abraham and the Wedjat Eye

In an ancient Egyptian papyrus of roughly the 1st or 2nd century A.D., again, there is a phrase, “Abraham, the pupil of the eye of the Wedjat.”

The Wedjat was the special eye of Osiris.

Osiris was killed by his brother, chopped into pieces, and thrown all over the earth.

His wife’s sister, Isis, gathered them all together, and couldn’t find the other eye, and so that other eye was miraculously restored, and then he was resurrected.

So the eye, the Wedjat eye, the perfect whole eye, was symbolic of resurrection and eternal life.

And there it says that Abraham was that Wedjat eye.

The Hypocephalus and the Book of the Dead

In the 162nd chapter of the Book of the Dead, it contains the instructions for the making of what facsimile number two is, a hypocephalus.

It talks about the Wedjat eye, and then says that it represents another eye.

It’s a pupil, is what it is.

That’s one of the representations.

And so here we have Abraham called the Wedjat eye, and the text that talks about making hypocephali associated with Abraham.

Pseudepigraphical Texts

Pseudepigraphical texts are ancient texts that are of religious content, but never made into the Bible for various reasons, some of them fairly obvious.

When you look at the Gospel of Thomas, for example, at the end, Peter comes up to Christ and asks, “Are women going to be in the Celestial Kingdom?”

Pointing at Mary Jesus replies, “Don’t worry, Peter; their sex is going to be changed, we’ll all be men, and everything will work out.”

It’s fairly obvious why that one didn’t make it into the canon.

The Apocalypse of Abraham

Pseudepigraphical texts, though, clearly have some ancient roots that go back to traditions associated with the people that they claim to be talking about.

In the ancient pseudepigraphical text, the Apocalypse of Abraham, Abraham sees a vision, and in his vision he describes what is in the heavens, on the earth, in the sea, in the abyss, and in the lower depths.

In facsimile number two, these words are found: “O mighty God, Lord of heaven and earth, of the netherworld and of his great waters.”

Very similar terminology!

So we are finding even wording in these ancient texts associated with Abraham that are similar to wording found on this particular hypocephalus.

Creation Imagery and the Hypocephalus

Also in the Apocalypse of Abraham, Abraham sees “the fullness of the universe and its circles in all.”

He sees “a picture of creation” with two sides.

That is the hypocephalus.

To the Egyptians, besides being the eye, it was the world, that which the sun encompassed.

As you look at it, there is an upper and a lower portion.

The lower portion is inverted to the upper.

This is a description in this book about, purporting to come from Abraham, of the hypocephalus, where he’s seeing the creation portrayed, if you will, in this manner.

The Four Figures in Facsimile #2

Abraham sees what are clearly the four figures labeled number six in facsimile number two.

He describes these four beasts, one with the head of a man, one with the head of a hawk, one with head of a jackal, and so on, that are the same as those that are portrayed there in facsimile two.

He sees, and again, where it’s quoted, this is a direct translation from the original, “the host of stars and the orders they were commanded to carry out, and the elements of the earth obeying them.”

That resonates with the language we find in Abraham 4, verses 1, 12, 18, 21, and 25, where it talks about the elements of the earth “obeying.”

So we’re finding even that same language being used in this ancient text that purports to come from Abraham, and the Book of Abraham, and again, the association with the hypocephalus, and facsimile two.

Abraham and the Priesthood Promise

Abraham, in this document, is also promised the priesthood, and that his priesthood would continue in his posterity, an element of the Abrahamic covenant that is totally missing in the Bible.

But it’s the central truth of the Book of Abraham.

And that promise is associated with the temple (interesting again).

Facsimile #3

Let’s turn to facsimile three.

Again, facsimile three we don’t have the original of.

It clearly belongs with the Book of Breathings.

The name of the owner of that papyrus, Hor, is found there.

As it now stands, it is a portrayal of the man, Hor, who is right there [points to the slide] with the god Anubis, who leads the dead, standing behind him.

And the goddess of Truth, identified by the feather on her head, leading him into the presence of the god Osiris, whose wife, Isis, is standing behind him.

He has passed the judgment, and is worthy to enter into the presence of god, and in fact, become one of the gods.

That’s the essence of what that scene portrays from the Book of Breathings standpoint.

The Testament of Abraham and Judgment Imagery

The Testament of Abraham, another ancient pseudepigraphical text, describes Abraham seeing a vision of the Last Judgment.

In his vision of last judgment, he sees an angel with scales weighing the souls of men.

Scholars all agree that this is clearly a reference to the 125th chapter of the Book of the Dead.

The guy must have had this before his eyes as he was describing it.

This is an admixture, if you will, of Christian doctrine with ancient Egyptian concepts of the judgment of the dead.

The Judgment Scene and Facsimile #3

One of the Joseph Smith papyri fragments is, in fact, this 125th chapter.

I’ll show you that in a moment.

Facsimile three portrays, simply, the next step in that process.

After the weighing of the soul, or the heart in the case of Egyptians, you are brought into the presence of Osiris.

The Papyrus of Neferirnub

Let’s look at some illustrations.

You’re probably not going to see it all.

This is horrible.

This is an indication of the state of preservation of these papyri.

The god Osiris is seated there, the scales are down below, and the young lady is being brought into the presence of Osiris by the goddess, Truth.

Her name is Neferirnub.

This is one tiny fragment of a Book of the Dead that is among the Joseph Smith papyri.

A Better-Preserved Judgment Scene

Here is that actual scene from a better-preserved Egyptian papyrus.

Here we have the man Hunefer, being brought by the god Anubis before the scales.

His heart is being weighed against a feather, which has beautiful symbology in Egyptian because your heart is the center of your thoughts and your desires, and the feather is the Egyptian hieroglyph for truth and justice.

And so we have the balance with truth and justice.

The god Thoth is recording the results of that, and if you pass, then you are introduced into the presence of Osiris.

That’s the scene on the right that forms basically the similar scene that is facsimile number three.

Judgment and Outer Darkness

The animal standing underneath the scales there, with the head of a crocodile, the front body of a leopard, and the rear body of a hippopotamus, is a monster that, if your heart doesn’t balance, gobbles your heart up.

And then you are cast into outer darkness, where there is mud and snakes and sewage, which I think is a good personification of outer darkness.

Reversing the Hunefer Papyrus

What I’ve done here is reverse-mirrored the Hunefer papyrus so that it matches the same direction as the Joseph Smith one.

You can see that it’s simply portraying that final scene of that total judgment scene, and hence just such a scene in the Testament of the Abraham is being described.

Joseph Couldn’t Have Known These Things

Several ancient Near Eastern documents associate the scenes that we understand as being facsimile one, two, and three with Abraham. They are roughly contemporary with the Book of Abraham papyri.

Secondly, none of these documents were available at the time of Joseph Smith. He couldn’t have somehow sneaked into the library in Kirtland and seen these, and come up with this. They weren’t available anywhere in the world.

He couldn’t have known about them.

Not Lucky Guessing

You can’t dismiss this as just lucky guessing.

When I give exams, I give a lot of multiple choice, and if the students don’t know, they don’t do well on the exam. You flip a coin, with one out of four, you are not going to do well on the exam.

Joseph Smith hit the nail on the head three times with these representations being associated with Abraham anciently. How can that be just lucky guessing? I mean if so, he is the best guesser in the world, and we ought to listen to him anyway!

Are the Doctrines Worth Betting Our Lives On?

At the end of this video, Richard Mouw (head of the Fuller Theological Seminary in California) says:

“Are the doctrines taught in the Book of Abraham credible? Are they the sort of things we should bet our lives on?”

With the implicit answer, “Heck no!” because of all of this mountain of evidence they’ve shown us that it’s not true.

Well, yes they are!

They are certainly worth betting our lives on!

The Doctrines of the Book of Abraham

The Book of Abraham contains some of the most beautiful and poignant doctrines of the Restoration:

  • the preexistence,
  • our eternal nature as human beings,
  • the council in heaven,
  • a much better portrayal of the creation.

There is beautiful and wonderful doctrine there.

We might respond, “Do we want to bet our eternal lives on the opinions of scholars?”

I think that would be an apt question, and I would wonder what their response would be.

Closing Statement from Hugh Nibley

Let me close with this statement from Hugh Nibley. Which sums up nicely what I’ve been trying to put across here.

The words of the prophets cannot be held to the tentative and defective tests that men have devised for them. Science, philosophy, and common sense all have a right to their day in court. But the last word does not lie with them.

Every time men in their wisdom have come forth with the last word, other words have promptly followed. The last word is a testimony of the Gospel that comes only by direct revelation. Our Father in heaven speaks it, and if it were in perfect agreement with the science of today, it would surely be out of line with the science of tomorrow. [You might say scholarship, too.]

Let us not, therefore, seek to hold God to the learned opinions of the moment when he speaks the language of eternity.

Thank you.

Q&A

Q&A

Question on Symbolism and Worldviews

Q. So, it seems part of what we’re learning here is that we have to be open to different worldviews in the way that symbols may have been interpreted at different times.

And I was interested by what you just mentioned parenthetically about the Gospel of Thomas, that dialogue at the end.

My thought was, because we’ve had preceding lectures about, you know, it’s not just biological, it’s inheritance. And possibly, could that text be related to, when saying women become men, is that they would have the inheritance in heaven that men have in relation to those blessings?

A. Michael: I suppose you could interpret it that way symbolically.

It certainly strikes against, you know, our belief in the eternal nature of gender.

Question on Layers of Meaning in Egyptian Symbols

Q. There’s apparently a concept in looking at Egyptian writings as layers of meaning. Particularly when you look at something like the hypocephalus. That you can interpret at one level and another level, and even maybe a third level.

Could you comment on that?

A. Michael: Well, first of all, I don’t know that I would call it levels.

I would simply say that Egyptian symbols have multiple ways of being interpreted. But not necessarily multiple levels, like, you know, there’s deeper levels or higher levels.

It’s simply, one thing can mean—let’s take for example the lotus flower.

The lotus flower:

  • can be symbolic of eternal life,
  • it can be symbolic of healing,
  • it can be symbolic of truth.

So, there are multiple meanings, but I don’t think that there’s the idea of multiple levels. Where you see kind of an outer level and then sink down deeper into a deeper level that you didn’t catch before.

That’s not, to my understanding, typical of Egyptian documents at all.

Question on the Hugh Nibley Quote

Q. A lot of people probably could this in the room, but what was the source on that Nibley quote?

A. Michael: Worldly Prophets is where that’s found.

Question on Facsimile #1 and the Book of Breathings

Q. Facsimile number one, as being part of the front of the Book of Breathings. Is it also not possible that a second facsimile one on a Book of Abraham scroll could have been there?

There could be two, where the one is extensively damaged and the other one was not?

A. The drawing matches up so perfectly that I don’t think there is any question that the facsimile number one that we have in the Pearl of Great Price came from the surviving portion of the papyrus.

I can’t imagine that another one would have matched up so perfectly. That just happened to be one from Abraham.

So, no, I don’t think so.

Question on Astronomy in Facsimile #2 and Abraham 3

Q. I have heard that a year or two ago, some of you were working on the matter of the astronomical depiction in facsimile number two in the third chapter. And that those were more representative of the Egyptian view of things.

And that, therefore, this was then a support for the inspiration given to Joseph.  Joseph might have tried to put in some modern astronomy or something, whereas this was a typical Egyptian view.

Would you comment on that?

A. Michael: Actually, I don’t espouse that view.

My colleague, John Gee, does think that the view portrayed in Abraham 3 is ancient geocentric point of view.

In a paper I gave a couple of years ago, and which will be published soon. I adopt a view that it, in fact, portrays a more modern point of view.

So, I almost suspect that it’s possible to look at it from both points of view, to some extent.

But to me, it more clearly portrays a modern point of view than an ancient one.

Follow-Up: How Modern?

Q. How modern?

A. Michael: Well, modern to the extent that it sees other stars as simply suns like our own.

That there are multiple planets.

That the Earth certainly isn’t the center of the universe.

It’s rather just one of a myriad of planets and stars that are part of God’s creation.

You know, look at the latest Hubble Space Telescope, and the galaxies, and whatnot.

To me, that’s the kind of thing that’s portrayed.

Closing

Scott Gordon: Thank you very much.

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August 2006 FAIR Conference

2006 FAIR Conference

FAIR Conference Archive

The 2006 FAIR Conference brought together Latter-day Saint scholars and researchers to address questions about the Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham, Joseph Smith, DNA, plural marriage, anti-Mormonism, and other topics in Latter-day Saint history and apologetics. Browse the conference presentations below, with available transcripts, speaker information, and related resources.

Conference Presentations

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Wayne Arnett

Apologetics 101

Abstract Coming Soon

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Michael R. Ash

Book of Abraham 201: Papyri, Revelation and Modern Egyptology

Mike Ash addresses common criticisms of the Book of Abraham, examining the Joseph Smith Papyri, the facsimiles, and modern Egyptology while exploring evidence for the book’s possible ancient origins.

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Joseph I. Bentley

Legal Trials of the Prophet: Joseph Smith’s Life in Court

Abstract Coming Soon 

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Matthew B. Brown

Revised or Unaltered? Joseph Smith’s Foundational Stories

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Historian Claudia Bushman, scholar of Latter-day Saint women’s history
Claudia L. Bushman

The Lives of Mormon Women

Abstract Coming Soon

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Brant A. Gardner

Defenders of the Book: Surveying the New World Evidence for Book of Mormon Historicity

Brant A. Gardner examines geographic, chronological, cultural, and anthropological convergences between the Book of Mormon and ancient Mesoamerica. Rather than relying on isolated parallels, he argues that multiple interlocking details create a cumulative case for the Book of Mormon as a text rooted in a real ancient setting.

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Brian M. Hauglid

Investigating the Kirtland Egyptian Papers

Brian Hauglid examines the complex collection commonly known as the Kirtland Egyptian Papers.

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Marcus H. Martins

A Black Man in Zion: Reflections on Race in the Restored Gospel

Marcus H. Martins explores the growth of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Africa, reflecting on race, priesthood, revelation, and the Church’s expanding global presence through both historical analysis and personal experience.

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Steven L. Mayfield

Mythmaking and the Hofmann Case – Salamander Letters

This presentation revisits the Mark Hofmann forgeries, separating persistent myths from documented evidence and sharing firsthand insights from the official investigation.

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Kim Östman

An International Perspective: Opposition to Mormonism in Finland 1845-2006

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Daniel C. Peterson

Tangible Restoration: The Witnesses and What They Experienced 

The differing experiences of the witnesses—one miraculous, the other deliberately ordinary and physical—provide complementary testimony concerning the gold plates.

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Matthew Roper

Adam in Ancient Texts and the Restoration

Matthew Roper examines ancient Jewish, Christian, Mandaean, Manichaean, and other traditions about Adam alongside Latter-day Saint scripture and teachings. He highlights parallels involving Adam’s premortal existence, divine council, agency, angelic instruction, sacrifice, repentance, baptism, ordinances, and eventual restoration to heavenly glory, arguing that these convergences illuminate teachings associated with the Restoration.

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David Stewart

DNA and the Book of Mormon

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Brian Stubbs

A Few Hundred Hints of Egyptian and Northwest Semitic in Uto-Aztecan

Brian Stubbs explores proposed linguistic connections between Uto-Aztecan languages and ancient Hebrew and Egyptian, examining sound correspondences, vocabulary, and structural similarities that may offer intriguing evidence relevant to the Book of Mormon.

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George Throckmorton

Mythmaking and the Hofmann Case – Salamander Letters

This presentation revisits the Mark Hofmann forgeries, separating persistent myths from documented evidence and sharing firsthand insights from the official investigation.

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Allen L. Wyatt

Zina and Her Men: An Examination of the Changing Marital State of Zina Diantha Huntington Jacobs Smith Young

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Original 2006 FAIR Conference Schedule & Information

The following information is preserved from FAIR’s original 2006 conference page as a historical record. Event, registration, hotel, and contact information is no longer current.

The Foundation for Apologetic Information & Research (FAIR)
is pleased to announce the
Eighth Annual Mormon Apologetics Conference
August 3–4, 2006
South Towne Exposition Center
Sandy, Utah

Description

Every day seems to bring new attempts by the Church's critics to denigrate its divine mission. From the efforts of professional anti-Mormon ministries to a whole new generation of critics, the efforts of the naysayers seem to continue unabashed. This year's FAIR Conference is geared toward providing the information and answers you need to deal with a variety of interesting topics. Don't miss this conference!

This year's speakers will address wide-ranging topics sure to please every interest. We invite you to join us for a frank, thought-provoking, faith-building, and enjoyable experience. In past years, people have traveled from as far as England, Saudi Arabia, Australia, and New Zealand just to come to the FAIR conferences. Come see what the excitement is all about!

— Scott Gordon
President of FAIR

Location

This year's conference will be held at:

South Towne Exposition Center
9575 South State Street
Sandy, Utah 84070

Speakers

Speakers slated for the conference included Wayne Arnett, Mike Ash, Joseph Bentley, Matthew Brown, Claudia Bushman, Brant Gardner, Brian Hauglid, Marcus Martins, Steve Mayfield, Kim Östman, Dan Peterson, Matt Roper, David Stewart, Brian Stubbs, George Throckmorton, and Allen Wyatt.

Topics included the Book of Abraham, Joseph Smith, linguistic evidence for the Book of Mormon, international anti-Mormonism, early polygamy and polyandry, the Mark Hofmann forgeries, DNA and the Book of Mormon, and much more.

Schedule

General conference sessions began at either 8:00 am or 9:00 am each day and ended at 5:45 pm. Registration was available before the first session each day. Dress was business casual.

Thursday, August 3, 2006

Time Speaker / Event
8:00 amRegistration
9:00 amOpening
9:10 amMike Ash
10:10 amGeorge Throckmorton and Steve Mayfield
11:10 amBrian Stubbs
12:10 pmLunch
1:30 pmMarcus Martins
2:30 pmKim Östman
3:30 pmSnack Break
3:45 pmMatt Roper
4:45 pmJoseph Bentley
5:45 pmClosing

Friday, August 4, 2006

Time Speaker / Event
7:45 amRegistration
8:00 amOpening
8:05 amWayne Arnett
9:00 amDavid Stewart
10:00 amMatthew Brown
11:00 amBrant Gardner
12:10 pmLunch
1:30 pmClaudia Bushman
2:30 pmAllen Wyatt
3:30 pmSnack Break
3:45 pmBrian Hauglid
4:45 pmDaniel Peterson
5:45 pmClosing

Publicity

FAIR is a grass-roots organization, and we need your help to spread the word about our conference. Tell your friends and neighbors to visit our Web site and learn about the conference. If you'd like, you can download and print this poster about the conference. You could then give it to friends or, with permission, post it on your ward bulletin board or have it distributed with your ward newsletter.

Hotel

The official hotel for the FAIR Conference was the Best Western Cottontree, just minutes away from the South Towne Exposition Center. Rooms were available for $72 per night, including high-speed wireless Internet access, breakfast, and free shuttle service to the conference. The special FAIR Conference room rate was available through July 21, 2006.

Best Western Cottontree
10695 South Auto Mall Drive
Sandy, UT 84070
801-523-8484

Reservations were available by calling 800-662-6886 and requesting a FAIR Conference room or using confirmation number 901249.

Important Registration Notices

Seating was "first-come, first-served," and advance reservations were recommended.

Lunch was not available for registrations made after July 31, 2006, or at the door. Attendees who wanted the catered lunches were asked to register before August 1.

Because FAIR made commitments and allocated resources based on expected attendance, refunds for conference fees were not available after July 31, 2006.

Previous Conference Presentations

FAIR has preserved presentations from previous conferences in the FAIR Conference Archive.

FAIR Questions: Are William Clayton’s journals and other evidences suggesting Joseph Smith practiced plural marriage just “revised history”?

July 25, 2025 by Sarah Allen

FAIR has a service where questions can be submitted and they are answered by volunteers. If you have a question, you can submit it at https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/contact. We will occasionally publish answers here for questions that are commonly asked, or are on topics that are receiving a lot of attention.

 

QUESTION:

My dear friend shared with me some information suggesting Joseph Smith’s involvement in plural marriage was doctored in after the fact by Brigham Young and his associates, especially William Clayton. To support this, they refer to public speeches by Joseph and Hyrum Smith, denying participation in plural marriage. So much of what we know depends on what is in the William Clayton diaries, which they say is possibly “revised history.” I also noted that it was announced that the William Clayton Diaries would be made available a few years back, but haven’t been yet. Do you know of any further information on that?

[Read more…] about FAIR Questions: Are William Clayton’s journals and other evidences suggesting Joseph Smith practiced plural marriage just “revised history”?

Filed Under: Apologetics, Faith Crisis, Joseph Smith, LDS History, Polygamy Tagged With: Joseph Smith, Joseph Smith's Polygamy, Plural Marriage, William Clayton

How a Proper Translation of Genesis 1:1 Underscores the Atonement-like Properties of Creation.

January 10, 2018 by FAIR Staff

 

 

As Latter-day Saints, we believe that the atonement plays a central role across all eternity. And though I don’t understand all the ways in which that is true, I was recently fascinated by commentary on Genesis 1 from “The Jewish Study Bible”. Commentary that suggests something atonement-like was going on at the very beginning of creation.

Genesis 1 is Best Translated as God Ordering the Universe from Pre-existing Chaos

 The Jewish Study Bible translates Genesis 1:1-2 like this:

When God began to create heaven and earth – the earth being unformed and void.

Pay careful attention to the subtle grammar of this sentence. The commentary suggests that the proper translation of these verses is not of a God creating a universe out of nothing, but of a God that “began” creation when the universe was still “unformed” and chaotic.

Furthermore, the footnotes add that Modern readers like to think the opposite of something is nothing, but to the ancients the opposite of something is chaos. A chaos they thought has malevolent power. Thus, the proper translation of these versus portrays a God who creates through taming a malevolent chaos.

The Wikipedia also makes similar observations.

Is This God More Powerful Than the Traditional God Who Creates Something Out of Nothing?

 The Jewish Study Bible then informs us that this idea has generated debates between Rabbis. The Rabbis who prefer the traditional “ex-nihilo” translation of Genesis suggest this “better” translation implies God built his kingdom on a dung hill. Also, they worry that if the universe has an existence independent of God, this undermines basic theology. For one, if God is really battling in chaos, are we certain He is in control? If chaos ruled once, can it rule again?

The response other Rabbis have given is that such a God is the more powerful One. Which is more impressive: A God Who can create what He wants in the context of no opposition? Or One that has accomplished similar creative goals in the face of opposition?

To use a horrible analogy, who is the more impressive gamer: one playing Sim City who creates the world he wants because all the cheat codes were up his sleeves, or one who had to fight through the game’s intrinsic opposition?

Furthermore, this latter God may be free from the problem of evil described below.

Why This Translation is Interesting in Light of the Atonement

One way to look at the atonement is that God is trying to turn you into a perfect person. An exalted creation. To use a CS Lewis analogy: you may be perfectly fine with being a little cottage. But God’s plan involves turning you into a palace, as difficult as those renovations may be.

In going about this “exalted creation”, a common question raised is: if God can create whatever He wants, why doesn’t He just create you perfect from the beginning? This is fundamentally the “problem of evil“.

This translation would supply a response to that by changing our perspective on how God must create. If from “the beginning” God’s creative plans have required the overthrow of pre-existent chaos, perhaps for us to become perfect “like Him” similarly requires a battle of that same chaos. It’s as if the “opposition of all things” we must overcome is a continuation of the process that started in Genesis 1.  As if learning to be creative like God is not learning to simply will things into existence, but is learning how to roll up our sleeves and with Him defeat the chaos that confronts us.

This makes Genesis 1:1 even more profound than merely being a verse about creation. It may be a verse that underscores what is at the heart of the entire plan of salvation.

Why Scientists, Strangely Enough, Should Find This Translation Interesting

It has been the hobby horse of recent scientists to suggest that, in the light of quantum mechanics, the opposite of something is not nothing but instead some quantum chaos. See recent books by Stephen Hawking and Lawrence Krauss for example. Now admittedly these books have been blasted for being filled with bad philosophy in their attempt to reduce the entire universe to a few 20th century physics principles the authors coincidentally specialized in. (Not too different from biologists I have met who likewise attempt attribute everything about the known universe to the evolutionary principles they were blessed to study in graduate school) But these philosophically bad reductionist errors are beside the point here.

My larger point is that there is a growing belief among scientists that quantum mechanics suggests that the opposite of something is not nothing, but a “quantum”-like chaos. Remove “everything” in a quantum mechanical system in an attempt to obtain “nothing”, and you are still left with a randomly “fluctuating” zero point energy. An energy with a chaotic structure that I will not speculate too much about as we don’t completely understand it, but one that at least hints that physical systems devoid of organized structure are not “filled” with nothing, but instead something akin to chaos.

Thus, it’s interesting that the “more accurate” translation of a thousands of years old Genesis verse may have been consistent this entire time with physics that we did not know until very recently. That before the “something” that we call our universe was not nothing, but a chaos that had to somehow be “tamed”. And though how that was done remains a mystery to both scientists and theologians, it appears Genesis is correct with the idea that it needed to be done.

Hat Tip to Joseph Smith

As you all know, Joseph said basically the same thing in the King Follett Discourse:

Doesn’t the Bible say he created the world?” And they infer, from the word create, that it must have been made out of nothing. Now, the word create came from the word baurau, which does not mean to create out of nothing; it means to organize; the same as a man would organize materials and build a ship. Hence we infer that God had materials to organize the world out of chaos—chaotic matter, which is element, and in which dwells all the glory.

Thus, despite his flaws, Joseph continues to be a man whose teachings are quite impressive.  Even though Joseph’s understanding of Hebrew pales in comparison to the great Rabbis of history referred to in this commentary, he demonstrates time and again fascinating level of inspiration.

—

Joseph Smidt is a physicist in the X-Theoretical Division (XTD) at the Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) where he currently sits as the cosmology team lead for LANL’s Center for Theoretical Astrophysics (CTA) as well as a point of contact for the US nuclear stockpile. His research is split between cosmology, astrophysics, inertial confinement fusion and nuclear weapon design. He has published over 50 papers in the open literature on a wide range of early universe topics from supersymmetry and cosmic inflation to how the first stars and galaxies formed. Joseph obtained his PhD in physics at the University of California, Irvine, and double majored in physics and mathematics at BYU.  He was married to his wife in the Salt Lake Temple, has five wonderful children, and currently serves as stake clerk in the Santa Fe New Mexico Stake.

Filed Under: Apologetics, Uncategorized Tagged With: bible, Genesis, Joseph Smith, Old Testament, Smidt

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