I was born in 1926 in Salt Lake City, Utah. My childhood and youth were spent twelve miles south in the small town of Sandy, the end of the streetcar line. My parents were both devout Mormons, as were the majority of the town’s residents. I grew up conforming to every standard and requirement of our faith.
Our chapel (ward house) was located just a block away from our modest home. It was the center of both my religious and social life. As I was musically talented, it was the means of furthering my keyboard skill, as I served as the organist for our weekly church services.
My musical development continued during my school days as I played in bands and orchestras. In fact, I began saving for my future university studies with my income as a jazz band pianist. I was also fortunate to be accepted as the only scholarship student of famed Tabernacle organist Alexander Schreiner.
World War II began during my high school years. Upon graduation I enlisted in the Merchant Marines. After my release I immediately enrolled as a freshman music major at the University of Utah. I married my organ student, Charlotte (Cholly) Clark, who lived in my Sandy ward. We moved to a modest house on Douglas Street just west of the “U” campus, which we were able to purchase because of my combined income from teaching organ and piano students and serving as organist for the First Unitarian Church and Temple B’nai Israel. These positions were my first direct exposure to religions that were different from my own. This experience strengthened, rather than weakened, my belief in the validity of Mormonism, despite my failure to serve a mission because of my marriage and resultant young family.
Since my Merchant Marine service was not covered by the G.I. Bill of Rights, I paid for my entire university education without scholarship aid. Thus, of necessity, I remained at the University of Utah to gain my B.F.A., M.F.A., and eventual Ph.D. in musical composition under the tutelage of internationally famous composer Leroy J. Robertson. As a result, my ability to compose has remained an important part of my life to this day.
My minor subject was philosophy. The staff of that department included several liberal Mormons. They made every effort to make me question my heretofore strong testimony. After ridiculing my belief in Joseph Smith’s story of the First Vision and resultant Restoration of the Gospel, including my Temple endowments, one even denied the divinity of Jesus Christ. I was aghast.
I found immediate reassurance of the validity of my life-guiding faith in the Restoration from close friends Lowell Bennion, at the U. of U. Institute of Religion, and Hugh Nibley, at BYU. In response to my query concerning the validity of the Book of Mormon, Nibley replied: “I considered every possible explanation of this fantastic story, only to find one and only one answer: Joseph Smith’s account is true”! My faith emerged from this profound challenge confirmed and even more certain.
After graduation I joined the music faculty at BYU in 1957. While there, I became a member of the Sunday School General Board, whose members included such superb intellectual luminaries as Henry Eyring, Thomas Parmley, Bertrand Harrison, Victor Cline, and others. Their friendship and professional excellence formed an overpowering counter-balance to my previous experience with the liberal philosophers at the U. of U.
In a faith-centered discussion with Truman Madsen, I remarked that I believed that we were all seekers for a sign. The membership and testimony of outstanding individuals in the Restored Church form a significant part of my own testimony. “That’s right,” he said. I recalled our attendance at a pre-school-year, full faculty devotional in the old Smith Building auditorium at BYU. President Hugh B. Brown was the last speaker. He concluded his address with these never-to-be-forgotten words: “He lives, He lives! To say more would betray a sacred trust.” We all exited the building quietly as we realized the profound implication of what he had fervently proclaimed.
In 1962, my family and I and were called by President David O. McKay to go to London, England, where I served as organist at the new Hyde Park Chapel. This stimulating experience filled the void in my professional credentials, which had previously been limited to the state of Utah. It was most encouraging to find that I could “hold my own” in a musical culture of highest excellence. I appeared in concert at St. Paul’s Cathedral and King’s College, Cambridge, in addition to my daily recitals at Hyde Park Chapel and a BBC broadcast.
At the conclusion of our two year mission in 1964, we returned to Provo, where I resumed my teaching and compositional activity at BYU until I was abruptly called to serve as an organist at Temple Square in Salt Lake City. Thus began a twenty-seven-year period of faith promoting experience with the Tabernacle Choir and the central church leadership in music-related activities. While in England I had formed a strong friendship with N. Eldon Tanner, who was serving as President of the West European Mission. He counseled me, saying: “There is no limit to the good that you can accomplish during your life if you are not concerned with who gets the credit.” Thus, with similar friendships of prophets, apostles and others in key positions who called me by my first name, I was able to work quietly behind the scenes to spearhead many much-needed projects of significance during my years at Temple Square. Generally, these activities were not within my area of stewardship or job description. As service to others was and is my goal, I opened every window of opportunity that arose. Following my retirement in 1991, my wife and I were called to serve as Directors of Hosting at the BYU Center in Jerusalem, Israel. My opportunities to spearhead new needed projects of significance continued unabated, and have continued to do so to the present day. I believe that all such opportunities for service are inspired. I was in “the right place at the right time” to receive spiritual guidance.
Now, at age 83, I find that my own testimony grows even stronger through retrospection of my life, starting as a simple, uneducated boy, living in a small Utah town, through a rich life of service and achievement, to the present day when, as a noted professional violinist from New York wistfully remarked, “You’ve had it all!” as he contrasted his world-centered life with my spiritually-centered life.
God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Restored Gospel are as real, natural, and crucial to me as the very air that I breathe. The opportunity to be in His actual presence with my dearest wife and eternal companion, along with our priceless family, to join our loved ones who await us there, is a gift of divine love beyond description and fullest comprehension. I so testify.
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Robert Cundick was born in 1926 in Salt Lake City, Utah. He is perhaps best known for his twenty-seven years as Mormon Tabernacle organist on Temple Square in Salt Lake City. His principal teacher was Alexander Schreiner. He has composed in choral, orchestral, and chamber genres. Robert Cundick studied composition with the late American composer Leroy Robertson. In 1955, he received his Ph.D. and began teaching at the University of Utah. He later taught at Brigham Young University. As Tabernacle organist emeritus, he continues to devote much of his time to composition and other music-related activities. He is a former National Councilor of the American Guild of Organists.
Posted February 2010
Having entered recently the ninth decade of my mortal existence, I have settled on relatively few intellectual and spiritual positions on which I am prepared to testify with some degree of certainty. During my lifetime, I have come to be much more impressed with what I don’t know for sure—or wonder if even I can know—than with what now seems definite to me. Much of what I can’t claim to know is routinely included in the testimonies of other Latter-day Saints, whose conventional lists of what seems true and certain to them leaves me baffled at their apparent spiritual attainments. Yet I have learned that I have no right to gainsay the individual spiritual experiences of others, as I hope they will not gainsay mine, different (and fewer) though mine might be. Later I will set forth those relatively few matters to which I wish to testify, but first I shall review some of the life experiences that have contributed to my testimony.
I am a child of Mormon pioneer stock, but I still I had to receive a personal witness of the truth of the gospel by myself. My father (who will be celebrating his hundredth birthday this September) was born in Rexburg, but moved to California by way of Salt Lake City at age of twelve. He met my mother (who was herself from Salt Lake City and who died a few years ago) when he was studying at the University of California at Davis and married her shortly thereafter. After completing a Ph.D. and an M.D. and serving in the military, he set up a medical practice in Berkeley, California. I was born in the middle of the “baby boomer” generation. I attended church with my parents and other members of my family from the time that I was a small child. I had always had a testimony of the gospel, but began to experience a developing sense of commitment to the church as a young man.
Just as our eyes and ears can be saturated in physical sights and sounds, so our souls can be immersed in the pure intelligence of the Spirit. The first, for the most part, teach us of the things of the world; the second, the things of eternity. The confirmation of the Spirit is also far more certain than the testimony of the physical senses. It is surprising—but I have discovered it to be true—that we can know eternal things through the Spirit better than we know mortal things through the physical senses.
I was seven years old when I realized the local Catholic church wasn’t another Mormon ward. That revelation dropped the theological ground out from under me into a quicksand of shifting beliefs. The ground I found to stand on then, I stand on still: truth is the stuff that features transparency, doesn’t get nervously defensive, fears no questions. We can recognize truth by its open arms, its open invitation to investigation.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints—and as a scientist, I am grateful for the invitation of Professor Daniel Peterson to prepare a statement on my personal religious beliefs for this Website on Latter-day Saint scholars. Since my comments here will be searchable on the Internet, I have decided to direct them not to my fellow church members, but instead to my friends, colleagues, and students who have other faiths or who do not profess a religious orientation.
I suppose I am qualified to say I know that God lives. I don’t know it in the way I know who my children are or the way I know the difference between an apple and a potato. It is more like the way I know that kindness is better than roughness. I have a brother who, all his adult life, had “spiritual” experiences. I am not sure I have had such. Perhaps twice, but I can’t be sure the emotion of the moment didn’t induce the sensation. I had gone to Pearl Harbor soon after the December 7th attack. An uncle of mine had been killed in the attack and had been buried at Aiea, a promontory overlooking the harbor. I had been given a number marking his place, and found it on a day off. I went there several times, the last on an Easter Sunday. As I stood there, I thought about him, about a pleasant visit I had had with him while he was alive, about the circumstances reported of his death. And I prayed. During the prayer, I had the strongest impression that he was there, acknowledging me. I didn’t see him or hear him, but I was sure. Years later, I wondered if the intensity of my own feelings and the circumstances—my affection for him, my loneliness in those days—might have induced the sensation. I think he did respond, but I don’t know that.
Each of us, whether we embrace belief or not, begins a spiritual journey at birth. We come into this life endowed with agency, the great gift of God to his children, and with the light of Christ. These gifts provide us opportunity to choose whether to act in faith and develop a testimony of Christ’s divinity, or to reject faith and turn our back on the things of the Spirit. As the scriptures teach, if an individual will try the experiment of believing in Jesus Christ and in faith abide by the precepts of His gospel, additional spiritual experiences will come and deepen testimony. Over my life, as I have acted in faith and been extended grace by the Savior, I have developed a testimony of the divinity of Jesus Christ and of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
As anyone who knows me will attest, I have feet planted firmly in both the scientific and the religious realms. I am a well-known scientist, employed at a large research laboratory, yet I also have deep religious roots — five generations of Mormon ancestors, including the second convert to be baptized in Great Britain in the famous race to the River Ribble.
“‘Classic.’ A book which people praise and don’t read.” Or so Mark Twain has it in Pudd’nhead Wilson’s New Calendar. I prefer the definition I heard once from John W. Welch: “A classic is a book that wears you out before you wear it out.” Through four decades of studying and teaching British and American literature, I have encountered many classics that I will never wear out. I keep returning with new eyes to authors such as John Milton, William Shakespeare, Jane Austen, Herman Melville, and Emily Dickinson. Of all that I have ever read, the classic that has engaged me the most over a lifetime of learning is the Book of Mormon. Not only do I find the book inexhaustible, but through study and faith I continue to gain insights that are remarkable, even stunning.