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We Do Not Doubt Our Mothers Knew It

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Question
How can parents raise strong children in a world of doubt and confusion?

Short Answer
Parents can best prepare their children for spiritual challenges by strengthening their own conversion, modeling faith, and teaching trust in God—even without having all the answers. Children learn belief and resilience primarily through what they consistently see and experience at home.
Key Takeaways
  • Children learn faith by watching their parents’ personal conversion
  • Obedience and trust in God build spiritual resilience
  • Doubt should lead to deeper trust, not disengagement
  • Belief is a conscious choice, even without complete understanding
  • Parents cannot control outcomes, but they can shape foundations

Summary

Summary

Lynnette Sheppard teaches that modern parents are raising children in a time of intense spiritual conflict, where ideas and influences can pull even the faithful away from Christ. Using the example of the stripling warriors’ mothers, she highlights that the most powerful preparation for children is not perfection in parenting, but deep personal conversion and consistent discipleship.

The talk emphasizes that agency is central to God’s plan, meaning parents cannot control their children’s choices. However, they are responsible for teaching faith, obedience, and trust in God. Sheppard explains that doubt is a natural part of life but should ultimately lead individuals to rely more fully on God. By choosing belief and modeling unwavering trust, parents can help their children develop the spiritual resilience needed to remain faithful, regardless of life’s challenges.

TL;DR

TL;DR (Too Long; Didn’t Read)

Raising faithful children starts with parents who are deeply converted themselves. Even in a world full of doubt and confusion, children learn to trust God by watching consistent faith, obedience, and belief modeled at home. You can’t control your children’s choices—but you can prepare them to choose Christ.

Introduction

Speaker Introduction

Lynnette Sheppard is a writer, gospel enthusiast, parenting coach, and host of the Stand with Lynnette podcast. On her podcast and social media platforms, she aims to help Latter-day Saint women stand firmly with Jesus Christ and raise righteous, well-prepared kids. She graduated from BYU with a degree in Family Science, but most of her practical knowledge has come from hands-on experience raising her five highly determined children, four of whom are now grown.

She is currently in the process of publishing her first book entitled “Stripling Mothers.” In her spare time, she enjoys hiking, cooking, working as a temple ordinance worker, and being a grandma.

Who Here Loves Fiction?

Okay, so I want to start out with a question. By a raise of hands, who out there in the audience loves to read fiction? Where are my fiction readers?

Okay, you are like my people. I want to be like you, and I am like you in the fact that I too really love to read fiction. But when I get involved in a good fiction story, my whole life tends to disappear except what’s on the page.

And so I have a hard time focusing on any kind of work. My house is a wreck. Do I even have children? I can’t remember. And if I do, I really hope they don’t need anything because I am unavailable for consults until I find out what happens to my new fictional friends.

The Problem with Loving Stories Too Much

And as you might imagine, this can become a little bit of a problem. My productivity, my availability for the people in my life that might need me, just kind of goes in the tank.

And so I can’t allow myself to read fiction very often. But when I do allow myself that luxury, I almost always choose World War II historical fiction. I don’t know—there’s something about that genre that just grabs me and pulls me in.

And that is ironic, because I also really hate sad stories. If somebody’s going to die in this book, I’m out. I don’t want any part of that. That’s not entertainment that I want to partake of.

Why I Keep Coming Back Anyway

And yet, World War II historical fiction—I know before I ever crack open the cover of one of these books that there are going to be parts in this story that are going to tear my heart out and smash it into a million pieces. And I’m not going to like that.

But as I’ve thought about this whole dichotomy in my life—why do I keep coming back to this genre? The best thing that I can come up with is because of the resilience of the human spirit that emerges in the face of these really challenging circumstances.

And the way people step up and have courage in the face of nearly impossible odds, and goodness transcends even the darkest of circumstances. That is so inspiring to me that I’m willing to put up with a few tears.

Imagining Myself in Their Story

So I keep coming back. But oftentimes when I’m involved in one of these stories, I put myself in the story. Their story becomes my story.

And so I think, what would it have been like for me to be living in these times? Maybe raising children in these times where the whole world is at war and millions of people are dying, and every family is touched in a really personal way by the tragedy and hardship of war.

And there are great, unprecedented moral questions like, what will happen if I stand up for what I believe and I help a neighbor or a friend, and that could very well cost me my life?

Grateful for My Life Today

These were some of the real struggles that real people were wrestling with during that time. And when I put that side by side with what my life is like today, I will choose my life every time, because I feel like in comparison I have it better in so many ways.

I was not cut out for war. I cannot handle tears, you guys.

A Different Kind of War Today

But the reality is that we are living in a time of war today. It might look different. The battles might be different than they were back in World War II and the physical battles that happened then.

Although there are physical battles happening at different places in the world today, the kind of battles that I’m talking about are battles of words and ideas and confusion and chaos that are pulling even the very elect away from the light of Jesus Christ.

And they might be different, but these kinds of battles are no less dangerous.

The Fear Parents Feel Today

And what makes it even more scary, at least for me, is that a lot of these ideas that are causing so much confusion are directed toward children. And that, as a parent, can be terrifying.

Those of us who are raising kids today feel the weight of that.

But the reality is that the Lord has called each one of us. If we are here today, if we are an adult today, whether or not we are currently raising children, he has called us to help guide and bear and rear and lead a chosen generation of youth who were born into a world that is corrupted every whit.

A Foreordained Generation

President Russell M. Nelson said our youth were “foreordained by God to do a remarkable work to help prepare the people of this world for the Second Coming of the Lord and are among the best the Lord has ever sent to this world.”

We have often heard our prophet say similar things about the young people who are growing up today. And prophets before him, for generations, have been saying similar things about the youth of their day.

The Honest Reality of Raising Kids

And I will be honest, sometimes I hear something like this and I wonder if the Lord sees the same kids that I do. (The ones who maybe forget to brush their teeth sometimes, even though their dad, in this case, happens to be a dentist.)

Or the kids who seem incapable of speaking above a mumble or answering a question with more than a barely audible grunt.

Sometimes I’m tempted to look heavenward, throw my hands in the air, and say, “Did this one slip through the heavenly cracks? Because I’m pretty sure she belongs on the remedial squad, and I can do nothing for her. So please fix her, Jesus.”

Maybe you can relate. If we’re raising children today, I think we can all relate to that.

Our Role in Their Divine Mission

But if we believe that our prophet speaks for God and our youth were indeed foreordained by God himself to help prepare the people of this world for the Second Coming of his Son, then what does that tell us about how God feels about you and me, and this generation of parents and leaders and adults, who must prepare them for that great work?

Because they are here to do a great thing according to this prophet. We are here to do a great thing, because they will not be able to do their great work unless we do ours first.

It is our job to prepare them.

Chosen for This Time

And the Lord knows exactly what we are up against. He’s not blind to the challenges of our day. Nothing that is happening in the world now or that will happen in the future is or will be a surprise for him.

And yet, he handpicked each one of us to come to earth in this time of great spiritual turmoil and to raise his elite set of latter-day warriors.

And that says something about his trust in us.

The Lord Trusts Us and Our Children

God Trusts Us with This Work

He trusts us a lot, and he knows us personally. And I know that feels daunting—this is a big work we have to do and I don’t really know how to do it.

But I hope it also feels empowering that the Lord does believe in us.

But let’s just lay all our cards out on the table right here, because I bet there are some of you out there thinking things like I have thought in the past:

“Okay, the Lord’s trusting me to do this really great, important thing so that my kids can do this really great and important thing, but maybe they are making choices that are not in line with that great and important thing.”

When We Feel Like We’re Failing

“And if I can’t teach them well enough for them to do their great work, then I am failing. I’m failing my kids. I am failing the Lord. I’m just a hot mess, and I don’t know what I’m going to do about that.”

If you have felt this, you are in really good company. I think we have probably all felt this at some time.

But I find comfort in knowing that faithful parents have been in this same boat since the dawn of time. Since Adam and Eve.

Agency Has Always Been Part of the Plan

Think back—Adam and Eve, first mortal parents on the earth, walked and talked face to face with God. One of their children killed his brother.

If we don’t have children who are physically killing each other, we are winning. We’re doing all right.

But I have no doubt that Adam and Eve did their best to teach their children about covenants and commandments and God. And still, they used their agency—some of them—to walk far away from them and from God.

Why Agency Matters So Much

The same thing might happen for you and for me, because agency is real.

It is so important to the Lord’s plan that there was a war in heaven fought over it. Lucifer was cast down because he sought to destroy the agency of man. That is one of the big reasons why he was cast down.

So when our kids use that agency to do things that are not in line with what we have taught them, we can find comfort again in knowing that God knew this is how it was going to be.

God Understands Wayward Children

If anyone knows what it is like for children to walk away from them, it is our Heavenly Father, because a third of his children didn’t even make it to earth.

They chose not to follow him even in the days before. And how many children since coming to earth have been in that same boat?

He knows we can’t control our kids’ agency any more than we can control the weather. We don’t have control over that.

“Let Not Your Hearts Be Troubled”

He did not give us control over that for a good purpose, because agency is critical to his plan.

Yet he still says: “Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.”

That brings me comfort, because when I hear those words in regard to this big important task of raising and preparing children, what I hear is: “Hey, Lynette.”

“You Cannot Save Your Children, But I Can”

Because sometimes that’s how the Lord sounds in my mind. It’s not formal. It’s,

“Hey, you listen up. Hey, Lynette. You cannot save your children, but I can.

So do the very best that you can. Teach them about me. Teach them how to find me. Teach them how to develop a relationship with me.

Do your best with your work. And then trust that my grace is sufficient to cover you—to cover all of the mistakes that you make as a parent, to cover your children and all of the mistakes that they will make on their way back to me, to cover all of the things that you do not now understand or that don’t seem to make sense for you.”

Trusting in His Grace

“My grace is sufficient. So trust me to do my work.”

To me, that brings great peace, because I know that I’m not doing this work alone.

He’s on my team, and he’s reaching out to my kids in ways that I cannot. So I can trust him with that.

What We Can Still Do as Parents

But just because we can’t guarantee any outcomes of how our kids will turn out in the end, and whether or not they will choose God, that does not mean we should throw up our hands and say, “Well, they’re going to do what they’re going to do, so I guess I just won’t try.”

That’s not going to get any of us anywhere.

And there is a lot we can do.

Finding a Blueprint for Raising Children

So we’re going to talk about what we can do to prepare our kids in the best way that we know how to do the great work that God is counting on them to do.

Now, what I have learned about this—as I have thought about it and studied about it and prayed about it as I’ve raised my five kids. (I just have one 16-year-old left at home—so we’ve spent a lot of time on our knees praying about these children.)

And not until relatively recently did I find what I believe is a blueprint that we can follow as parents as we’re trying to raise righteous children.

A Blueprint Worth Sharing

This would have been helpful information 25 years ago, but hey, I’m sharing it with you so hopefully you can take it and run with it.

A Blueprint for Parents

This blueprint I discovered was from a group of women who all went from lives of sin to lives of covenants and commandments and faith.

And once they were converted unto the Lord, not a single one of them ever fell away. That is how converted they were.

And not only that, but they were able to raise a generation of young people—their children—who were strong and firm and courageous and undaunted and perfectly obedient in the face of really challenging circumstances.

Who Were These Women?

Now, who were these women and what can we learn from them about raising modern children today? You might recognize them from this verse:

“They had been taught by their mothers that if they did not doubt, God would deliver them. And they rehearsed the words of their mothers, saying, ‘We do not doubt our mothers knew it.’”

You probably recognize this if you’ve been in the Church for any period of time—that this scripture comes from the story of the stripling warriors.

Why Did Mormon Include This Detail?

And we all know this story. We’ve read it a million times. We’ve taught it a million times. And we all know what happens.

But have you ever thought about why Mormon, when he was compiling the plates and abridging and leaving some things in and taking others out and adding his commentary here and there—why did he choose to include this little detail about their mothers?

I cannot speak for Mormon, but I know that he saw our day.

A Message for Parents Today

He told us that he saw the widespread wickedness and commotion that would be happening in our day.

And I like to think that he also saw faithful parents like me and you doing our best to raise faithful children and struggling to know how to do that.

And I wonder if he thought, Well, maybe if I include this little detail about their mothers, that might pique their interest and make them think: How did these women do it?

The Faith of the Stripling Mothers

Because these mothers of these stripling warriors—or as I like to call them, stripling mothers—were somehow able to raise their children to walk off to war at a moment’s notice, with no prior experience, even though they were all very young.

And they did so with courage and faith and hope in God.

Some experts believe these boys could have been as young as 12 to 15 years old.

Can You Imagine It Today?

So imagine with me, if you will, modern-day deacons, teachers, maybe some really young priests—2,000 of them—marching off to war with courage and faith, singing the praises of their mothers.

Can you picture it? Because I have a 16-year-old and I can’t.

It’s a little bit hard to imagine. But these women were somehow able to do it.

Looking for Clues in the Scriptures

So who were they? What do we know about them?

Now, there’s a lot that we do not know about them.

But a friend recently taught me that success leaves clues.

Putting on Our Detective Hat

And so, for the next few minutes, I invite you to put on your detective hat with me and we’re going to look for clues in the scriptures about these women—about these mothers—about how they were able to do the things that they did in preparing their kids.

So let’s talk about some of the things that we know.

A Past Marked by Sin and Conversion

We know that these were Lamanite women who were converted by the missionary efforts of Ammon and the sons of Mosiah.

And prior to their conversion, they were in the darkest abyss and the most lost of all mankind because of the traditions of their wicked fathers and the many sins and murders they committed.

So they had a past. They had a colorful past.

Leaving the Past Behind Completely

And after their conversion, they left that sinful past behind, completely removed themselves physically from it. They changed their names. They didn’t want to be known as Lamanites anymore. That brought a lot of baggage that they didn’t want to carry.

So they changed their names to Anti-Nephi-Lehies. Now, that’s kind of a mouthful. So sometimes I call them the Ammonites or the people of Ammon.

And I may use those three terms interchangeably here today.

Burying Their Weapons at the Moment of Crisis

We know that they buried their weapons of rebellion, and they covenanted never to dig them up again lest they lose their souls.

Again, this is one of those iconic stories. We know about them burying their weapons.

But I didn’t know, until I really went back and studied the timeline and the context of this decision, that they made that choice when war was upon them.

Choosing Faith When War Was Imminent

This was not an arbitrary decision because they had already decided that they didn’t want to fight anymore.

But they had heard that some of their old friends—the Lamanites who didn’t convert with them—weren’t happy with these new converts.

And so, rather than accepting their former friends’ decision, they decided that they were going to destroy them.

A Defining Moment of Commitment

And so they were making preparations to come to war against these Ammonite converts.

That is when they had to decide: We already said we weren’t going to fight, but are we really going to stick with that? Are we really going to do it?

And so the king called everyone together into this big meeting, and he gave a rousing speech where he thanked God for allowing them to repent of their many sins and murders, for taking away their guilt, and helping them to feel light and peace and turn their lives around.

A Covenant of Complete Transformation

And then he pled with everyone in attendance that day to keep their swords bright by burying them as a testimony to the Lord that they would never again shed blood.

And with that testimony, they would make a three-part covenant: that they would die before they killed anyone else, that they would give rather than take, and that they would labor abundantly with their hands rather than spend their days in idleness.

No killing, no stealing, no idleness.

Guarding Against Returning to Old Ways

These three things must have been the three things that they were most worried about going back to.

Maybe they were even as much as addictions—that if they had a little bit, they might totally turn back.

And they didn’t want any part of that.

Faith in the Face of Death

So everyone there that day—all these Ammonite converts—made this covenant.

They buried their weapons deep in the earth. And they did so with war knocking on their doorstep.

An Unimaginable Sacrifice

Pretty soon the Lamanites did come upon them in battle.

All these Ammonite men marched onto the battlefield, unarmed, and laid down upon the ground and prayed to God and praised God, while their former friends killed 1,005 of them with no resistance.

This courageous demonstration of faith inspired some of these Lamanites to throw down their weapons and join them on the ground.

A Legacy of Faithfulness

And they became, from that point forward, part of this group that was forever faithful.

And this was eleven years prior to Helaman’s march with his stripling warriors.

So the men who were on the battlefield that day—these were the fathers, the grandfathers, perhaps some of the older brothers of the stripling warriors.

The Mothers Who Carried On

And those women— their mothers– they probably weren’t in battle that day. But they were there to pick up the pieces.

They had to decide what they were going to do from that point forward.

Did they go back and dig up those weapons and say, “We didn’t realize how much this covenant would cost us. I think maybe we can defend ourselves. Is that okay?”

Choosing Faith Over Fear

They didn’t do that. They turned their faces to the future and they marched forward with faith.

And they were, from that point forward, forever faithful.

What the Children Learned

They didn’t question God.

They believed in his ability to deliver them, even if they had to sacrifice everything in the process.

Now, what do you think these future stripling warriors, who were children at that time, learned about faith from their parents from this one scenario alone?

The Power of Their Example

They knew that their fathers were martyrs—that they gave up everything for their faith.

And they knew that their mothers were forever faithful after that—that they did not question their faith, that they picked things up and moved forward.

And not only that, but remember these more than 1,005 Lamanites—we don’t have an exact number—who joined them that day after participating in the slaughter of their loved ones, they joined them.

Radical Forgiveness and Faith

And these Ammonite women welcomed them, along with any men who were left.

I don’t know how many there were in total. But they welcomed these repentant sinners into their midst.

  • even though they had participated in the murders of their husbands,
  • their sons,
  • their brothers.

Compassion as a Mark of True Discipleship

And I think about that in the context of this quote from President Nelson: “One of the easiest ways to identify a true follower of Jesus Christ is how compassionately that person treats other people.”

So what did these stripling warriors learn about being a true follower of Jesus Christ by watching how their mothers treated these people who participated in this horrible act?

They had a past too, though, remember, because they also had sins and murders on their conscience.

Understanding Through Shared Experience

And they knew what it was like to repent and change their lives.

And they told these Lamanites who joined them that day: You are welcome here. We will welcome you in.

And they treated them with compassion.

Continuing the Search for Clues

So what else do we know? What else do we know about these Ammonite women?

What We Know About These Women

  • We know that they were perfectly honest and upright in all things. Those are some pretty strong descriptors.
  • We know that they were obedient to the law of Moses. Even though they did not suppose that salvation came by the law of Moses, they kept the law because it strengthened their faith in Christ.

So they were obedient. They were honest. They were upright.

Teaching Exact Obedience

This concept of obedience shows up again later when Helaman’s young army—Helaman observed that they “observed to keep God’s statutes and his judgments and his commandments continually.”

So they were obedient to God, these young warriors.

And in battle, they did obey and observe every word of command with exactness.

Helaman Credits Their Mothers

It is also interesting to note that right after Helaman praises their obedience, he says this: “And I did remember the words which they said unto me—that their mothers had taught them.”

So who did Helaman credit for the perfect obedience of these young warriors? Their mothers.

I invite you to imagine an alternate scenario for just a minute.

What If They Had Not Been Obedient?

Imagine that Helaman took command of these 2,000 young men. It’s not like he was a military commander before that—he was a prophet.

He was out preaching the word, and they wanted him to be their leader. And so he agreed to be their leader—of these 2,000, again, deacons, teachers, priests who had no prior experience.

And it was his responsibility to make sure that they were as safe as possible.

The Potential for Chaos

He was leading them into battle. So there were some risks, and they knew that.

I imagine that Helaman felt a little overwhelmed. I think I would have in that instance.

But what if these young men had decided, “Well, I am just going to do whatever I want because I don’t need Helaman telling me what to do. He’s not the boss of me. I can do whatever I want”?

Obedience vs. Destruction

It’s not hard to imagine the scene of chaos and carnage and likely bloodshed that would have ensued had these young men decided to be stubborn instead of obedient and compliant.

And in looking back with the lens of history, and the words that Mormon has given us about them, it’s clear that their obedience is what saved them—their obedience to Helaman’s every word of command and their obedience to God, who then stepped in and orchestrated this miracle.

Saved Through Obedience

So it’s not hard for me to connect those dots and say they were saved because of their obedience, right?

That’s how they were able to successfully get through those battles—not without wounds, but without death.

Raising Latter-day Spiritual Warriors

And I think about that in the context of what we’re trying to do today, in raising latter-day spiritual warriors in a culture where obedience is not really glorified at all.

Right? It’s like my personal authority is king over everything else, and I can do what I want, and I can discover my own truth, and this is what is prized in society.

But we’re trying to raise children who can be obedient.

Why Obedience Matters

Because if we want latter-day spiritual warriors, is it hard to connect the dots to say, “Well, Helaman’s army was saved because of their obedience. Will our kids be saved in the battles for their faith because of their obedience?”

I don’t think it’s hard to make that connection, for me.

If we want our kids to be saved spiritually, they have to learn to be obedient, because obedience is the first law of heaven.

Where Obedience Is Learned

But kids learn obedience at home.

And so if we’re not emphasizing that, if they don’t learn to be obedient to us as their parents, they’re likely going to struggle to be obedient to prophets, to be obedient to commandments and covenants, and to God.

Again, obedience is the first law of heaven.

Preparing Children for What’s Ahead

So that’s something to think about as you’re preparing your kids for what’s coming.

Obedience is a vital piece of that.

Our Personal Conversion

As I have thought about all that I have learned from these incredible women—which I don’t even have time today to scratch the surface, there’s so much—I invite you to go home and study the story on your own and try to find those pieces that are relevant to your life.

But what I have learned, I think, that transcends everything, is that if we want to raise modern-day spiritual warriors, we first have to be converted.

Because our personal conversion is going to be our kids’ first line of defense in the latter-day battles for their faith.

The First Line of Defense

It’s not going to be their only line of defense, but it’s going to be their first line of defense.

Because who do they learn about conversion from? Who do they learn what faith looks like in action from?

They’re first going to learn that at home.

What Do Our Children See in Us?

Like these Ammonite women, who never gave their kids a reason to doubt where their loyalties lay, I think we have to think about that in our own homes.

Do our kids know what we believe? Do they know because of what we say?

Do they know because of what we do? Do they know because those things are congruent?

What Are We Teaching Through Our Example?

How do they know? What do they learn from us about conversion?

I love these words from Elder Jeffrey R. Holland:

“Our children take their flight into the future with our thrust and with our aim. And even as we anxiously watch that arrow in flight and know all the evils that can deflect its course after it has left our hand, nevertheless, we take courage in remembering that the most important mortal factor in determining that arrow’s destination will be the stability, strength, and unwavering certainty of the holder of the bow.”

As latter-day parents and leaders and grandparents in Zion, we are the holders of the bow for the rising generation. The significance and importance of our work cannot be understated.

Doubt

And because of that, I want to go back to the stripling mothers and their parting counsel to their sons as they were going off to battle.

This is the counsel: If you do not doubt, God will deliver you.

I think about that in the context of this is the last thing their mothers had taught them.

Faith That Withstands Battle

And this is the counsel that gave them courage to walk into battle when they were so young, and to believe that God would deliver them if they did not doubt.

Because their mothers had never given them any reason to doubt that they knew what they were talking about.

And so in today’s world, I think a lot about doubt.

A Culture That Elevates Doubt

It’s kind of on the forefront of a lot of the work that I do on social media and online.

It almost feels like doubt is elevated above faith in importance or significance, like a badge of honor.

If you’re doubting your faith, it’s like this gateway to personal authority and freedom.

Navigating Faith in a Doubting World

And it’s hard to navigate that world and hold on to your faith without falling into that pit of doubt.

So how can we do that? That’s a big thing we’re trying to do.

Many years ago—like 20 years ago—I came to a crossroads in my faith that I was not expecting, that I didn’t know how to navigate.

A Personal Crisis of Faith

It threw me for a major loop.

I was in my young 20s at this point.

Prior to this, I had always just believed.

A Sudden Shift in Perspective

I had had experiences that reinforced that belief and that testimony, and I never had any reason to doubt that all the things I had been taught by my parents and at church were true and real and good.

When my husband graduated from BYU, we moved our two young kids across the country to Ohio.

Prior to that point, I grew up mostly in Gilbert, Arizona, which is like “mini Utah.”

Culture Shock and New Questions

Then I went to BYU, which is a culture in and of itself.

And then I moved to Ohio, where a lot of the people that I interacted with hadn’t even heard of our Church.

And if they had, they had some interesting misconceptions about what we believed or how we lived our lives.

A New Religious Perspective

They lived their lives very differently than I did.

So it was – almost–culture shock for me.

It threw me for a major loop that I was not expecting.

Encounters That Challenged Belief

Shortly thereafter, my husband was called to serve as the ward mission leader in our ward.

And so we often had missionaries in our home, and they would bring their investigators—or as they call them now, their friends.

They would bring their friends over, and we would have missionary lessons in our home.

A Moment That Changed Everything

There was this one time where they were teaching a Muslim man.

He was not interested in joining the Church, but he was curious enough to listen to the lessons and to see what it is that we believed.

During one of these lessons, he was talking about his belief of Jesus Christ—what he believed as a Muslim.

Questioning What I Knew

He believed that Jesus was a good man and a prophet, but not the Son of God, not the Savior of the world.

And as this young twenty-something, I listened to him talk about his view of Jesus Christ.

It hit me, maybe for the first time, that I was part of this tiny religious minority.

The Weight of Doubt

Who was I to claim that I had the truth?

There were so many people in the world that didn’t even believe in Jesus Christ, let alone in the Book of Mormon.

So how did I know that it was true? Who was I to say that?

Struggling Through Uncertainty

For months after that, I wrestled with some really difficult questions about my faith.

Where everything had once felt so clear, now everything was muddy.

I didn’t know what I believed.

Holding On While Feeling Lost

I questioned everything—down to the reality of Jesus Christ as my Savior. I couldn’t even claim that anymore.

And I didn’t really know how to navigate this.

Going Through the Motions

Thankfully, it was in the days before social media, because I think that would have complicated it a million times.

But I continued to go through the motions—to go to church, to say my prayers, to do the things.

But this cloud was heavy in the air.

A Quiet Answer

One night I was praying. I honestly don’t remember what I said—probably just praying for clarity, to know the truth.

And then I heard these simple words, with such clarity in my mind: You already know it’s true.

Remembering What I Already Knew

And with those words, peace rushed over me. It brought warmth to my heart and tears to my eyes.

I thought back to everything that I had experienced up to that point in my young life.

Faith Restored Through Memory

The ways that God had shown up for me and testified to me again and again that the gospel was true—that Joseph Smith was a prophet, and that, because Joseph Smith was a prophet, the Book of Mormon was the work of God and the word of God.

I had miraculous answers to prayers while studying the revelations found in the Doctrine and Covenants.

And as I thought back on all of those things in the context of all of this doubt that I was trying to navigate, it just became clear in a second.

God has testified to me all throughout my life that this Church is true.

When Doubt Replaces Faith

And I just forgot about that for a minute because doubts came up and just kind of took the place of all of that experience and that faith that I had had up to that point.

Trust God With What We Don’t Understand

And so I learned a lot. I learned a lot from that experience.

One of the things being that our questions, our doubts, the things that feel challenging to us right now, they do not throw a wrench in God’s plan.

They do invite us to trust him with all of the things that we do not understand.

Wanting to See the Whole Path

And as I’ve thought about this trust, this building of faith, I’m kind of a person who likes to know the end from the beginning.

I want to know how this path is going to end up before I ever take one step on it.

I want to see the whole path.

Learning How God Works

And that’s not how God usually works with me, unfortunately.

But I want to know all that God knows. I want to see all that God sees. And I’ve thought about that—can I do that? Can I know all that God knows?

Why We Don’t Know Everything

In thinking about that, and thinking about the reason why we’re here in mortality, I asked myself: what would it have been like if we already knew everything that God knows?

We could still have our agency to choose, but would we want to choose anything other than eternal life with our Father if we knew that that was the reward at the end of the path?

And it just kind of made it clear to me that agency, as we know it, would be different.

The Role of Opposition

It would eliminate all or most of the opposition that we face, because we’d already know everything.

It would already be clear.

In 2 Nephi, in Lehi’s beautiful discourse about the plan of salvation, we learn that without opposition, there could be no righteousness nor wickedness, holiness nor misery, good nor bad.

Why Opposition Is Essential

And without those opposites, “there would have been no purpose in the end of [our] creation,” which would effectively “destroy the wisdom of God and his eternal purposes.”

So without opposition, there would be no purpose to our creation.

And that would destroy the whole plan of God and his purpose.

God’s Purpose and Our Growth

His work and his glory is to save each one of us—to bring about the immortality and eternal life of man.

That is his whole goal, and everything that he does supports that singular goal.

And if that’s the case, then we can’t know all that he knows, because in order for him to save us, we have to experience opposition.

Why Faith Comes First

And that is where faith comes in.

And that’s perhaps why faith is the first principle of the gospel—because everything else hinges upon our ability to have faith.

But that doesn’t make it easy.

When Answers Don’t Come

That doesn’t mean that we’re going to be here in mortality, especially now, when there are huge questions that don’t seem to have good, clear answers.

And we pray for those answers.

And sometimes those answers don’t come, because maybe that’s just not something that God has revealed quite yet.

Choosing to Trust God

And so it invites us to trust him—to trust in his omniscience, and to trust that he’s got it all under control.

Because if his plan is to save me, then can I trust him with all the parts of that plan that I don’t now understand?

Because I have to learn to walk by faith.

A Personal Decision to Trust

For me, that answer has been yes. I can trust him. And I don’t know all the things and I don’t have all the answers.

And I imagine that I probably won’t in this life have all the answers or know all the things.

When We Face Our Own Questions

But I know that he does.

And that is enough for me.

But each one of us is going to come to some point in our lives where we have to wrestle with some of these big questions.

Different Struggles, Same Savior

Maybe it’s that we’re having a hard time aligning our personal experiences with the doctrine of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.

Or maybe we’re having a hard time navigating a really challenging relationship with one of our kids, and we don’t know how that’s all going to work out.

For all of us, it’s going to be different.

The Only Way Forward

We’re all going to be asked to wrestle with different things. But the only way that we will be saved is through Jesus Christ.

He is the way, the truth, and the life.

Do You Trust God?

And so, I invite you to consider, as you’re wrestling with whatever it is that you’re wrestling: do you trust God?

Do you trust him enough to anchor yourself to him no matter how hard the wind blows, no matter how many people you know and love decide to walk away from the Church?

Will you anchor yourself to him?

Choosing to Believe

Will you choose to believe that he’s got it all under control?

That he’s going to cross every “t” and dot every “i” and make every person who turns to him whole?

That’s his goal.

Belief Is a Choice

Will you do that? Will you choose to believe?

Because belief is a choice.

This isn’t something that just happens or it doesn’t.

Teaching Our Children to Believe

We can choose to believe even if we don’t have all the answers.

Will you choose to believe that if you do not doubt, God will deliver you?

Will you choose to teach that to your kids with all the energy of your heart—that if they do not doubt, God will deliver them?

“We Do Not Doubt Our Mothers Knew It”

And if we do that, if we have that unwavering certainty, as Elder Holland said, then our kids will always be able to say:

  • no matter what happens,
  • no matter where they end up on the path,
  • no matter what choices they make, they will always be able to say:

We do not doubt our mothers knew it.

And I leave that with you in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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Anger Without A Cause? – President Oaks and a False Narrative

December 18, 2018 by FAIR Staff

 

The debate surrounding LGBT issues is one high in emotion and passion, with all sides having strongly held beliefs and entrenched views. Often, the flash point of these debates revolves around the religious beliefs of those who question the morality of LGBT behavior. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is no exception to this rule, being one of the more conservative religions when it comes to this topic. One church leader in particular has himself become a lightning rod on the subject.

“Harmful rhetoric” and “discrimination” were alleged to have been a part of President Dallin H. Oaks’ recent General Conference talk entitled Truth and the Plan. These claims were made by Lori Davis, a Board Member of a group called Mama Dragons, a group whose stated purpose is to provide support for Mormon and former Mormon mothers of LGBT children. A brief review of social media and other contemporary news articles will quickly demonstrate that the Mama Dragons were not alone in their feelings that some wrong was committed by Elder Oaks. Others actually implied that people may have to call a crisis line following the talk. Such drastic condemnation would certainly lead the reasonable reader to ask what horrible thing President Oaks said to possibly elicit such a strong response.

Unfortunately, despite the strong rhetoric, many who made the condemning statements on social media and elsewhere failed to cite what words were actually offensive. General indignation seemed to be sufficient for those people. Some, fortunately, were more specific. I’d like to look at several of them, and analyze what they might tell us about this issue, how those from different viewpoints are approaching it, and what we can learn from it. [Read more…] about Anger Without A Cause? – President Oaks and a False Narrative

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Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

June 18, 2017 by Scott Gordon

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Members in Sacrament Meeting. Picture source: https://www.lds.org/media-library/images/sacrament-meeting-578251?lang=eng

Recently, a video has been on social media about a 12 year old young woman speaking in a testimony meeting about being gay. This is being promoted as a heartfelt moment of tenderness, only to be ruined by the bad stake leader, who happened to be on the stand that day, who asked her to sit down. The mom writes, “…this stake member chose to hurt my child, I don’t know his reasons.”[1]

So, let’s put this in context.

UNDERSTANDING LDS CHURCH MEETINGS

Each Sunday, Mormons meet together. Our most sacred meeting is called “Sacrament Meeting.” According to the Church Handbook of Instructions, 18.2.2, it says:

Each sacrament meeting should be a spiritual experience in which members of the Church renew their covenants by partaking of the sacrament. Other purposes of sacrament meeting are to worship, provide gospel instruction, perform ordinances, conduct ward business, and strengthen faith and testimony.[2]

In instructions given to Church leaders we read:

…bishoprics and branch presidencies need to plan sacrament meetings thoughtfully in order to keep the meetings focused on the Lord and His Atonement, His example, and the doctrines of the gospel.[3]

One Sunday each month, members have a special Sacrament meeting called “Fast and Testimony” meeting. Prior to attending the meeting, members typically go without eating two meals. This fasting is to put themselves into a spiritual frame of mind of worship. Usually, members take the money saved from fasting and put it towards feeding the poor. As part of that meeting, after the sacrament (Communion), “the conducting brother bears a brief testimony. He then invites members to bear brief, heartfelt testimonies of the Savior, His teachings, and the Restoration.”[4]

These testimonies are not speeches or talks. They are not pre-written. They are not a time of advocacy. They are short, extemporaneously expressed, heartfelt feelings about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and how we have been strengthened by it. On lds.org it says:

A testimony is a spiritual witness given by the Holy Ghost. The foundation of a testimony is the knowledge that Heavenly Father lives and loves His children; that Jesus Christ lives, that He is the Son of God, and that He carried out the infinite Atonement; that Joseph Smith is the prophet of God who was called to restore the gospel; that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Savior’s true Church on the earth; and that the Church is led by a living prophet today. With this foundation, a testimony grows to include all principles of the gospel. [5]

With this in mind, let’s look at this incident.

THE EVENT

From her mother, we learn that Savannah has been struggling recently. Her Dad and 4 siblings attend church regularly, while her mom stays home with “our oldest”. From context, that appears to be Savannah. Savannah was the one who wanted to do this. She had been pushing her parents on this for several months. Her mother says:

She wanted to be herself in front of them, see if church would be a place to accept her, and to speak up in case there was another LGBT person in the congregation that needed to hear they weren’t alone.

So, Savannah invited several of her friends to come hear her, and they recorded the event.[6] Several in the Ex Mormon community, including the guy who sneaks into Temples to record people, are now pushing hard to get this incident promoted to all of the press outlets and on social media.[7]

As this girl’s parents know, Fast and Testimony meeting isn’t a place for giving speeches, which is what she did. She had her speech all written out and read it from the pulpit. I wish her parents had talked with her more about appropriate forums and venues. This isn’t about whether a girl is struggling with her sexuality, or about how a Church leader handled it. This is a clear case of hijacking a meeting, promoting false teachings, and exploiting a child’s inexperience to create a media event. Savannah was likely allowed to say much more from the pulpit than an adult would have been allowed to say.

Her testimony starts out fine.

Hi, my name is Savannah, and I want to share my testimony with you.
I believe I am the child of Heavenly parents.
I don’t know if they talk to us, but I feel in my heart that they made me and that they love me.
I believe that I was made the way I am, all parts of me, by my Heavenly Parents.
They did not mess up when they gave me brown eyes, or when I was born bald. They did not mess up when they gave me freckles, or when they made me to be gay.

That part is fine. Even mentioning her sexuality, could be seen as appropriate within a testimony given during Fast and Testimony meeting. Next, in an actual testimony, you would expect something about how some life event, has helped her to grow spiritually. But, Savannah doesn’t do that. She goes on advocating for her position by saying:

“No part of me is a mistake.”

“I do not choose to be this way and it is not a fad.”

“I know I am not a horrible sinner for being who I am.”

“I know I can have all of these things as a lesbian and be happy.”

“I believe that if God is there, he knows I am perfect just the way I am and would never ask me to live my life alone or with someone I am not attracted to.”

In the middle of her speech she says, “I believe God would tell me if I was wrong.”

Well, as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints we believe he did exactly that. We do not believe she is a “horrible sinner” for being who she is, but you will find our teachings on family and relationships clearly stated in the document titled “The Family, a Proclamation to the World.”[8] This is a fundamental belief of our faith. In essence, she is saying that she doesn’t trust the teachings of Jesus Christ given through our prophets today.

THE EXIT NARRATIVE

While talking about the love of God, which we can all agree with, her speech was calling out the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as false. It follows the pattern of a typical exit narrative which reads, I used to believe the Church is true, but now I find joy and happiness outside of Church teachings. I hope you will give up your false beliefs and follow me. Anyone advocating that from the pulpit should be asked to step down, even if they are twelve years old.

HEAVENLY FATHER’S PLAN

Savannah is correct in stating that we are all unique. We are all born with various talents and gifts. We are all born with passions and desires. We are all born with weaknesses and frailties.

Heavenly Father’s plan is to have us learn to overcome our weaknesses and frailties. It is to control our passions and desires. It is to develop our talents and gifts. He gave us a set of guidelines called commandments that will give us the greatest amount of happiness in mortality and eternal life. The question is if we believe and trust Him.

None of us are perfect just the way we are. That is a child’s point of view. All of us have difficulties. Many of us do have to live our lives alone. It is one of life’s many challenges.

THE FUTURE

I wish Savannah the best no matter what her future choices might be. I hope that her parents, step in to de-escalate this event. Every child needs to be allowed to grow. I think of those young people I know who thought they were gay when they were 12 or 13, and are now in happy heterosexual relationships. I care for one of them very much. I would hate to have had her in the headlines while she was deciding which direction her life might go.

After Savannah spoke, the Church leader conducting stood up and repeated the uplifting and true statements that Savannah made. There was no harsh language. There was no condemnation. There was no negative judgement. There was no lack of support for Savannah as a daughter of God. What occurred was a stake leader protecting the purpose of the Sacrament meeting and refocusing it on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This was simply a case of inappropriate venue and advocacy.

 

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/6a31bl/did_anyone_hear_about_the_12yo_girl_whose_mic_was/

[2] https://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/meetings-in-the-church/18.2.1?lang=eng#182

[3] https://www.lds.org/ensign/2004/08/worshiping-at-sacrament-meeting?lang=eng&_r=1

[4] https://www.lds.org/ensign/2004/08/worshiping-at-sacrament-meeting?lang=eng&_r=1

[5] https://www.lds.org/topics/testimony?lang=eng

[6] Recording our worship service in the chapel is against church policy. But, being guests, they likely didn’t know that, or didn’t care.

[7] He stated on Reddit, “I offered to edit and distribute the video as well as promote the hell out of it. I’ve spent at least 40 hours in the past ten days editing and promoting the video to every media contact I’ve made (and a lot of new ones).”

[8] https://www.lds.org/topics/family-proclamation?lang=eng&old=true

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RiseUp Podcast – Doubt Your Doubts – Interview with Chad Conrad

June 17, 2015 by NickGalieti

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1668-2007-thickbox“Doubt Your Doubts” by Chad Conrad is an eye-opening read that will help readers strengthen their faith, confront controversial topics and find relevant answers to everyday life. The book addresses hot-button questions, such as “Why don’t women hold the priesthood?” and “How should we deal with homosexuality?” Readers’ toughest gospel questions can become testimony-builders with this timely and informative book.

To purchase a copy of Doubt Your Doubts, buy it at a discount through the FairMormon Bookstore.
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RiseUp Podcast: Modesty

February 18, 2015 by NickGalieti

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Modesty is a challenging subject for both youth and adults to wrap their heads around, especially considering the constant challenges to gospel standards from society. That is why it is important to hear from those who deal with this issue on a daily basis, and have overcome some of the struggles associated with staying true to those standards.

 

We are happy to introduce a new voice on the RiseUp podcast. Now a freshman in college, Katelyn has lived across the United States. In this episode she addresses the topic of modesty with some stories from her own life.

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RiseUp Podcast: What’s Wrong with Masturbation

January 8, 2015 by NickGalieti

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Youth, or Young Adults in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have had questions about various aspects and applications of the Law of Chastity. One such question surrounds quotes and commentary on masturbation. This response is read by Steve Densley, Executive Vice-President of FairMormon in a podcast he published in Jan 2013.

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Question Submitted to FairMormon:

I’ve been reading a lot lately on the internet and listening to podcasts about the church’s stance on masturbation and the current science on the subject. I have understood that masturbation is considered to be addictive and that Jesus taught that we should not think lustfully about members of the opposite gender. But some people are saying that the Church’s approach to this issue has changed lately, and that masturbation is no longer considered a serious sin. I’m also hearing that if a man does not ejaculate regularly, that it could be harmful and even lead to death. I know that looking at pornography is wrong. It is misleading, degrading and lusting after any person who is already married is a sin. However, I wonder now if masturbation without lusting after someone to whom you are not married might be acceptable.

And now for the answer:
In responding to this question, there are two main points that should be considered: 1) Sexuality is sacred, and its enjoyment is given strict bounds by scripture and modern revelation; and 2) Sexual acts, including masturbation, generate profound and powerful neurochemical reactions.

These two principles are, it seems, related–the physical and mental consequences of sexuality are so important and powerful that God has good reason to give us commandments that help us enjoy the best of those consequences and avoid the worst.

Now, you distinguish pornography use from masturbation, and in a way that’s valid. For instance, part of the sin of pornography use is lustfully, selfishly using images of another’s sacred body, and supporting an industry that exploits those sacred bodies for profit. Masturbation without pornography at least avoids that.

However, in a larger sense, pornography use and masturbation are not so distinguishable. Their main feature is the same: They change sexuality from the divinely-sanctioned sacrament of love for another, into a solely self-oriented activity.

Let’s talk more about what it means to say that sexuality is sacred. First, and most obviously, through the power of procreation, we share in the creative power of God by helping to bring His children into this world. But there are other ways in which proper use of the procreative power helps us to become more like God. Our ultimate goal in life is to become like Christ by overcoming selfishness and becoming a person who is perfectly able and willing to love and serve others. Because sexuality is so powerful, it can easily motivate selfishness–wanting to use others for one’s own sexual gratification. To prevent that, and to help us progress, God instead taught us how to express sexuality in a context, marriage, that encourages selflessness, kindness, and loyalty.

Therefore, a problem with masturbation is that it removes sexuality from that very important context of kindness in marriage. Even though masturbation doesn’t use others for gratification, it teaches an individual to regard sexuality as an individual event, free from the demands of a spouse.

This is where neurochemistry comes in, too. Sexual climax involves incredibly powerful chemical events that can even be analogized to the effect of powerful drugs. Both make the brain perceive incredible pleasure. Because of neuroplasticity (the brain’s tendency to rewire itself so that a stimulus and its response are closely associated with each other), sexual stimulus will be associated with its incredible neurochemical reward. Some of the chemicals that are released during sex are the same as those released after a woman gives birth. And just as these chemicals help a mother to bond with a newborn child, they also help sexual partners to feel bonded to one another.

But when sexual stimulus comes in the form of masturbation, completely devoid of the sharing and vulnerability and complementarity of marriage, then the brain can become wired so that it is primarily masturbation that produces the reward, and an individual can become increasingly unable to sexually respond to a spouse. Masturbation and intercourse are simply different. One who masturbates frequently has a very direct knowledge of what actions bring pleasure most effectively. It can be difficult or impossible for a spouse to reproduce the pleasure that a masturbator has learned how to produce on his or her own. Thus, sexuality, if not expressed in the context of a loving and devoted relationship, turns inward and becomes a focus on self. It is spiritually dangerous to use sexuality for self when God intends for it to be used to help us overcome our love of self.

Even if one were to masturbate while focusing one’s thoughts on one’s spouse, it’s still impossible to replicate the experience of being with another, actual person with flaws and fears and perhaps very different sexual needs. It doesn’t change the fact that one is providing one’s own sexual stimulus, instead of having to learn how to give and receive.

Any claims you have heard that you will be physically harmed unless you do masturbate are simply false, or greatly over-blown. There is a study that shows that older men have a lower risk of prostate cancer if they ejaculate more frequently. However, this same finding was not replicated in the case of young men. In fact,higher rates of masturbation raise the risk of prostate cancer in young men. Interestingly, more frequent intercourse did NOT raise the risk, but masturbation did.

In approaching issues of obedience, the correct approach is not to lay out the “risks and benefits” of obeying or not, and then trying to decide where the best “deal” lies. It seems instead, that our first question ought to be, is it true that God wants me to abstain from masturbation. If so, it doesn’t matter what it does to my physical health, or anything else. And, we must not over-look the possibility that men who are more healthy, more vigorous, etc. for a variety of reasons may be more sexually active or interested–thus, the finding may not be a matter of cause and effect, but more ejaculatory acts may reflect better over-all health. And, masturbation in young men might reflect higher hormone levels, which in the long run might lead to higher cancer risk–again, perhaps the link isn’t causative. Or, perhaps masturbation leads to higher hormone levels via positive feedback. No one knows yet.

The prophets have been clear that masturbation is not a practice that is approved by the Lord. While the current edition of For the Strength of Youth pamphlet does not use the term “masturbation,” it clearly refers to the act all the same. It reads: “Do not do anything else that arouses sexual feelings. Do not arouse those emotions in your own body.”

President Packer made it clear that it is not a grave, heinous sin on the order of (say) fornication or adultery, but it is still something we should avoid:

One of you, perhaps, has not fully understood until now. Perhaps your father did not talk to you. You may already have been guilty of tampering with these powers. You may even have developed a habit. What do you do then?

First, I want you to know this. If you are struggling with this temptation and perhaps you have not quite been able to resist, the Lord still loves you. It is not anything so wicked nor is it a transgression so great that the Lord would reject you because of it, but it can quickly lead to that kind of transgression. It is not pleasing to the Lord, nor is it pleasing to you. It does not make you feel worthy or clean.

(To Young Men Only, pamphlet, Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.)

President Kimball said something similar: “Masturbation, a rather common indiscretion, is not approved of the Lord nor of his church, regardless of what may have been said by others whose ‘norms’ are lower. Latter-day Saints are urged to avoid this practice. Anyone fettered by this weakness should abandon the habit before he goes on a mission or receives the holy priesthood or goes in the temple for his blessings.” (Spencer W. Kimball, “Love Versus Lust,” Brigham Young University Speeches of the Year [Provo, 5 Jan. 1965], p. 22.)

Note that he calls it both “common” and an “indiscretion.” It is also termed a “weakness.” This isn’t something catastrophic, and it acknowledges that most of us have to learn how to moderate this part of our lives. But, the standards that the Lord teaches are clear. And, if we are not willing to obey him in the “little” things, when faced with a greater trial, we will not have developed either the strength or resolve to obey in the big things.

C.S. Lewis has a wonderful passage in which he describes what may be the root reason that God gives us this commandment:

For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides. And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival. Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect love: no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself….

Masturbation involves this abuse of imagination in erotic matters (which I think bad in itself) and thereby encourages a similar abuse of it in all spheres. After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little, dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison.

(C.S. Lewis, letter to Keith Masson (3 June 1956); cited in Yours, Jack: Spiritual Direction from C.S. Lewis (HarperOne, 2008), 292-293.)

At the very least, it violates one of the commands of Jesus:

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
(Matthew 5:26 – 30.)

Jesus here tells us to abstain from lust. And, frankly, masturbation without lust is pretty difficult, even in the manner you describe. Could this be difficult for us? Yes, many people find it so. But, Jesus makes it clear that to be his disciple, we must be prepared to sacrifice our comfort, and even things that we cherish deeply. Losing an eye or hand is a big deal: but, Jesus uses these symbolically as something which we must be willing to part with if it keeps us from obeying God.

This is the sort of case where theory and talking is not as good as practice. “If any man will do his will,” said Jesus, “he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.” (John 7:17.)

There are many people who can verify that it is entirely possible to have a happy life and later rewarding marriage despite abstinence from masturbation. But, the only way, in some sense, to become convincedRise of that is to try the experiment. And, if one is not able to try the experiment, that suggests that this is more of a problem than one might suspect. If you find yourself in this situation, you will find strength and encouragement if you will read the recent counsel of the Church and if you will take up these matters with your bishop, and with the Lord.

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RiseUp Podcast: Small and Simple Truths Blog Interview

December 11, 2014 by NickGalieti

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In this episode of the RiseUp podcast, Blake sits down with some young adults who are called as digital missionaries in their stake. As digital missionaries they share articles and testimony on a blog called SmallAndSimpleTruths.com

These youth talk about being called as digital missionaries, and what it means to defend your beliefs online, as well as sharing your testimony with strangers. They talk about how they were able to overcome the fears they had and how this calling has blessed their lives and the lieves of their readers.

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Filed Under: Podcast, RiseUp, Youth Tagged With: #sharegoodness, blogging, digital missionary, Small and Simple Truths, youth

RiseUp Podcast: Talking with your Parents About Sex

October 22, 2014 by NickGalieti

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A challenging subject for youth and young adults to address with one another, but the law of Chastity, sex, is something that is best if not left to the world take the lead. How does one talk with their parents about sex, why are parents the best source? Jimmy Carpenter gives some brief thoughts on the subject. (This one is best to listen to with your parents.)

RiseUp is a podcast for young adults who have difficult questions about church teachings and doctrines. Subscribe to the RiseUp (only) feed in iTunes, click here. 

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Filed Under: Chastity, Podcast, RiseUp Tagged With: chastity, sex, Young Adults, youth

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